GDT: Leafs at Pitts 7:00pm CBC/SNO Sat, Oct 23rd

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Its inevitable that the 4 forwards will get blown up. Time and time again we see that the way this team is built doesn’t work.

2 years straight they say bs like they will learn and be better for it.

They come back playing the same way yearly hoping for different results.
They're picking up under the playoff pressure and look identical. Scared and timed, especially Marner.

I'll be surprised if the big 4 make it to Xmas
 
This is it.

I get people are angry - but is there a GM in the world who wouldn't have looked at this team 4 years ago and realized Marner and Matthews were core pieces?

There's no alternate universe where these two aren't on this team. None. Plenty wouldn't have gone after Tavares, which is fine, but no matter what you do with that $ to improve depth, you need Matthews and Marner to be your best players.

No, you really don't.
 
It's becoming more and more evident with each passing game that Babcock wasn't the problem.

I know that alot of you don't want to hear that, but it's a fact.

Think that's been known for a while now. His 2 favourite players or what Babcocks haters called his sons Hyman and Brown are 2 players we kinda miss atm too.
 
Glad they are getting embarrassed early on this time, they were able to coast the last few years on early season records and mail it in for the last half and playoffs. Not this time suckers! Reality finally slapping them in the face.
 
So would I, would also get a lottery pick. Would be perfect.

Hire Rutherford and Boudreau who both wanted to come to the leafs, have experience and success and have the testicular fortitude to make big changes and win like Rutherford did in Pittsburgh.
This would be amazing
 
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It's becoming more and more evident with each passing game that Babcock wasn't the problem.

I know that alot of you don't want to hear that, but it's a fact.
No question about it, that isn’t even a bold comment. The best thing was for Babs to get fired so the excuses would evaporate and we could see what we really have. The coach was the least of the problems and this guy isn’t an upgrade so far.
 
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