This is Geoff Molson’s empire, hard questions aren’t allowed or else there’s big consequences. There’s no transparency or whatever that buzz word is that Molson uses. Everything is controlled, these journalists won’t dare bite the hand that feeds them.
GDT: Leafs at Habs (Now, Saturday)
- Thread starter the
- Start date
- Status
salbutera
Registered User
- Sep 10, 2019
- 15,192
- 16,981
Of course there is …. when the most important position on the PP is missing….. a QB
Mrb1p
PRICERSTOPDAPUCK
Mailloux for sure. Guhle and DR close out a very strong top 3.
Its not missing, hes used as if he was Edmundson instead.
tinyzombies
Registered User
No quarterback on D, that's the biggest problem right now. Hopefully they are feeding Hutson stem cells and steroid smoothies so he's ready soon.
Slaf has to learn to get open and then map out what he's gonna do instead of floating into traffic, puck watching and then expecting to react to what's there when he gets the puck and finally lifts his head. This is the NHL big guy, it's all gone unless you map it out first. Ok, my job is done here, back to eating a pint of ice cream.
Slaf has to learn to get open and then map out what he's gonna do instead of floating into traffic, puck watching and then expecting to react to what's there when he gets the puck and finally lifts his head. This is the NHL big guy, it's all gone unless you map it out first. Ok, my job is done here, back to eating a pint of ice cream.
Last edited:
The Gr8 Dane
L'harceleur
Who cares we are tanking this year and hopefully next year need a superstar forward or we are going nowhere keep drafting top 3 until you do like Edmonton for all I care I have zero interest in competing for 8th place while fefans line up for 25 year reserve list season tickets
- Aug 21, 2016
- 10,238
- 13,513
And Boucher behind the bench who knows pretty well the Habs, its clear that his kids were better prepared for this game while St-Louis is still trying to figure it out.
No excuse though, baby Leafs were better than ours tonight.
The baby Leafs were crushed in term of puck possession for two periods actually. Monty let in bad goals.
tinyzombies
Registered User
Because they had a 2-0 lead. That's one of those times when possession and xG are useless. We didn't get anywhere near their net.
abo9
Registered User
- Jun 25, 2017
- 9,154
- 7,274
Sorry, longish rant, unpopular take:
While it doesnt for contenders with established stars, the pre season matters for a rebuilding team like Montreal. A team like toronto losing 5-0 in preseason doesnt really care because they know that their team gets things done. Actually, they might care a little to see if their prospects can provide cheap quality depth
For a rebuilding team, there's not much to look for in the RS; you know the team will lose most often than not. Those games ultimately dont matter either. In the preseason though, you get a look at young players in the pipeline against other team's pipelines.
You see guys like Knies and Minten for Toronto, even Robertson, take the opportunity and run with it. Look around the league, the young stars are generally showing off their skills. Exceptions happen of course, and maybe It doesnt mean much in the long term, but who has been an exciting prospect to watch this pre season in Montreal?
We have a few guys who are good ol' reliable players ala Guhle, but they dont exactly take over games, even in the pre season.
Im not expecting to see Caufield and Suzuki going at it 100%, but Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher, even a guy like Newhook, you expect them to be "all in" to showcase what they can do at the NHL level. Yet, they "look good", nothing more really. Is this the future pillars of the Montreal Canadiens?
So yeah, imo we're coping by using empty expressions like that the preseason "means nothing" - because theres nothing to get us excited, hyped about these prospects!!! Leaf fans might be annoyingly positive about their prospects, but dammit, they get in the scoresheet. And theyre joining an elite group of forwards, so even if they looked weak against our pipeline, it wouldnt matter immediately to the Leafs .
To be clear, I'm not saying these prospects arent NHL capable in the future. Some might end up very good. But, where's the "elite" talent? Caufield graduated. Suzuki... is he gonna be "elite" one day, or is he our definition of "elite"?
I'm a fan who grew up with the team post lockout in 2006, and "mediocrity" is what I'm used to. I'm tired of it. I'm not trying to be ultra negative, but realistic. I like the moves we did recently, like the logic behind them. However, rssults point to a mediocre future.
Are we on the path of mediocrity once again? What makes you think that we can contend woth this group of prospects?
I know this is gonna be unpopular to some who are clinging to a postivie attitude.Whats your timeline? Imo, rebuild started in 2018 with our first top 5 pick - Kotkaniemi. 5 years already.
Or we can use the Bergevin firing as a starting point to the "true" rebuild?
Anyway, end of rant.
While it doesnt for contenders with established stars, the pre season matters for a rebuilding team like Montreal. A team like toronto losing 5-0 in preseason doesnt really care because they know that their team gets things done. Actually, they might care a little to see if their prospects can provide cheap quality depth
For a rebuilding team, there's not much to look for in the RS; you know the team will lose most often than not. Those games ultimately dont matter either. In the preseason though, you get a look at young players in the pipeline against other team's pipelines.
You see guys like Knies and Minten for Toronto, even Robertson, take the opportunity and run with it. Look around the league, the young stars are generally showing off their skills. Exceptions happen of course, and maybe It doesnt mean much in the long term, but who has been an exciting prospect to watch this pre season in Montreal?
We have a few guys who are good ol' reliable players ala Guhle, but they dont exactly take over games, even in the pre season.
Im not expecting to see Caufield and Suzuki going at it 100%, but Slaf, Guhle, Reinbacher, even a guy like Newhook, you expect them to be "all in" to showcase what they can do at the NHL level. Yet, they "look good", nothing more really. Is this the future pillars of the Montreal Canadiens?
So yeah, imo we're coping by using empty expressions like that the preseason "means nothing" - because theres nothing to get us excited, hyped about these prospects!!! Leaf fans might be annoyingly positive about their prospects, but dammit, they get in the scoresheet. And theyre joining an elite group of forwards, so even if they looked weak against our pipeline, it wouldnt matter immediately to the Leafs .
To be clear, I'm not saying these prospects arent NHL capable in the future. Some might end up very good. But, where's the "elite" talent? Caufield graduated. Suzuki... is he gonna be "elite" one day, or is he our definition of "elite"?
I'm a fan who grew up with the team post lockout in 2006, and "mediocrity" is what I'm used to. I'm tired of it. I'm not trying to be ultra negative, but realistic. I like the moves we did recently, like the logic behind them. However, rssults point to a mediocre future.
Are we on the path of mediocrity once again? What makes you think that we can contend woth this group of prospects?
I know this is gonna be unpopular to some who are clinging to a postivie attitude.Whats your timeline? Imo, rebuild started in 2018 with our first top 5 pick - Kotkaniemi. 5 years already.
Or we can use the Bergevin firing as a starting point to the "true" rebuild?
Anyway, end of rant.
Last edited:
CHfan1
Registered User
- Apr 23, 2012
- 8,123
- 9,476
Montembeault should have stopped the 1st goal but I can’t blame him on the 2 on 0 goal and Robertson’s breakaway.
Tanking is useless when you're picking underwhelming talent year after year
Habs had more high danger chances than the Leafs (almost twice more). They got near the net, Jones was just very good tonight.
Also, Suzuki and Kidney lines allowed zero shot on net at 5v5. The Maillet line was terrible, as was the PP.
tinyzombies
Registered User
He put us behind the 8-ball in both games. Dobes has looked good so he better watch it. Way too nonchalant.
Spearmint Rhino
Registered User
- Sep 17, 2013
- 9,329
- 9,348
Relax, chill out. We've got lots of time. We're not winning the Stanley Cup in an exhibition game…
so you d rather spend 15 years like BUF hoping to get McDavid but landing Eichel only to lose him in a trade because he has nobody surrounding him ?
Partly because nobody (press, eyes on you) has consistently hammered the (shitty) power play after every single game.
As I mentioned toward the end of last season, if the Habs accomplish nothing else anything else this year, fixing this worthless power play must be priority number one. IMO, the press's responsibility is to inquire why the power play doesn't deliver; if the Habs manage to score twice with the man advantage in a game, the press should grill MSL during the post-game press conference about why they didn't score three times; if the goalie makes 70 saves and the Habs win 11-0, the first question on the journalists' lips should be, "Why couldn't the team score more then 6x on the power play?" In a game where the Habs dominate possession, outshooting their opponent 45-1 and winning 5-0, the press should ask MSL, "Despite the win, what's the plan to improve the power play?"
I am so done with this crap every single season. FI_ICK!
tinyzombies
Registered User
No, but we didn't need to make that push at the end last year either when armia scored like 8 goals in 15 games...
26Mats
Registered User
- Jun 23, 2018
- 33,376
- 25,770
So will we start the season:
Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Kovacevic
Harris - Xhekaj
Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Kovacevic
Harris - Xhekaj
HabzSauce
Registered User
- Jun 10, 2022
- 1,736
- 2,381
I think our D is pretty much set. And our top 4 core of Slaf/Dach/Caufield/Suzuki ain't too shabby.
As is that's not good enough and I don't feel confident our current crop of forward prospects can elevate us to contender, even with a stacked D.
We do have assets galore though and I'd like to see Hugo make at least 1 big trade for an elite winger. Preferably two.
1-2 elite wingers, when the time is right and id say we're ready to contend.
dinodebino
Registered User
- Sep 27, 2017
- 16,397
- 29,555
C’est tu donc de valeur, on a perdu un match hors-concours.
tinyzombies
Registered User
Barron hasn't done enough for me, but he's slowly gotten better I suppose. Mailloux they probably won't force, but if he started scoring goals... which could easily happen. And a trade wouldn't hurt to bring in a qb somehow... tall order tho.
THey would have to take minutes from Xhekaj and Harris. Kovacevic seems to have taken a step up this camp maybe. If they can't take those minutes, they need to go to Laval to play a bigger role.
CHfan1
Registered User
- Apr 23, 2012
- 8,123
- 9,476
The Habs didn’t play well at the end of last season, they went 5-14-2 from the trade deadline on. Armia scored 3 goals during that time (a hat trick against Washington). They only won 1 of their last 8 games.
sheed36
Registered User
- Status
