Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Luke Schenn for a 3rd round pick

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He has his limitations for sure but he's built for playoff hockey. Plays a simple, steady game. Always hitting and policing out there. He plays on the line of what is called for interference all the time but doesn't get penalized for it. He'll hit guys and then sort of smother and pin them to the boards for a couple seconds, taking the attacker out of the play. Loved him pummelling Maroon.
 
Hes Boosh with fighting. They do a lot of similar things, Schenn is a little less aggressive in most senses (pinches, pressure, etc) but doesnt skate as well.
I think he's a bit more than Boosh with fighting so far these playoffs. Not massively so, but I'd definitely take Schenn over Boosh, even aside from the nostalgia. They're very similar styles, and it's true that Schenn doesn't skate as well (which could potentially be exploited against a faster team, or if he wasn't paired with Rielly), and he definitely still has a number of weaknesses, but he seems to understand his role and limitations better.

He's been good at allowing Rielly to make plays, seems to have a better understanding of what to do with the puck himself, and seems to be more cautious with risky pinches, passes, and positioning. Isn't as much of a big open ice hitter (probably because he's not fast enough to line them up), but seems to be better with board and crease battles so far. Boosh cleared the crease but Schenn CLEARS the crease. There's also leadership there that Boosh didn't have. My expectations were quite low, but he's surpassed them so far and gotta give credit.
 
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well we have to remember leafs have a history of getting over committed and emotionally attached to players rather than getting the most of them just at the right time. A prime example of this was Dave Bolland who was an absolute stud of a player and a very significant factor for chicago winning their cups. Chicago got him at the perfect time and maxxed out the benefit they could derive out of him. Toronto saw he’s a player you win with, signed him, and he sucked. Nothing like his Chicago days who could have retained him based on past performance but let him go just at the right time. Luke is 33, a slow skater, and relies on a physically heavy game as his bread and butter. This is a prime candidate for someone who could decline sharply within a few years as he gets older and the physical game catches up to him.

This is not to take away from his current performance. he’s been an absolute stud and it was a great pick up for a low price and would be a very significant piece of this run regardless of how it goes. But I think it’s important not to get overly attached. The prospect of a 37 year schenn isn’t the best idea. Each year he will only get a little worse probably. This year and the next are probably as good as it gets and I’m loving every minute of it.
I never said anything about signing him long term. I can't be bothered to search back to where this started but I'm pretty sure all I said was that I'm pretty sure he'll be back next year.

Every situation is different and I don't find the Bolland story to be relevant here. As best I can remember, he was pretty good when he was here but whatever, that has nothing whatsoever to do with Schenn.
 
I wanted to bring him in and was happy to get him even if it was just as a depth option. I was more happy with the fact that another team in the east didn't get him. We really didn't need to have him stapling our guys to the boards.

He's the kind of guy you need in the playoffs with his physical presence, shot blocking, a guy that sticks up for team mates and neutralizes scrums and we desperately needed a guy that could clear the crease. Even though he's not a star level D man, he seems like a true captain. I honestly just don't see captain material out of a guy like Matthews
 
Love that he stood between the benches after the Rielly/Point incident to calm things down. He's really shown why he was brought it. Veteran leadership, toughness and physicality.

I was skeptical and I'm happy to admit that I was wrong about not wanting to acquire him.
He also has the respect of Tampa players which can't be overstated enough. He's the perfect sheriff for this series.
 
You can't buy heart, and Kadri, despite his checkered history and shitty decision making/luck with the Zebras, has more of it than most players ever will for their teams.
Kadri was one of the dumbest, most selfish players ever. His constant me first penalties and suspensions made him a complete waste of cap space when the going got tough.

He had 1 great year with the Avs when coincidentally it was time to get paid, and now he's back to being an extremely mediocre 2C at best.

He's literally the last player I think of when I think of players with heart. And it wasn't "bad luck" it was pure stupidity/selfishness.
 
I wanted to bring him in and was happy to get him even if it was just as a depth option. I was more happy with the fact that another team in the east didn't get him. We really didn't need to have him stapling our guys to the boards.

He's the kind of guy you need in the playoffs with his physical presence, shot blocking, a guy that sticks up for team mates and neutralizes scrums and we desperately needed a guy that could clear the crease. Even though he's not a star level D man, he seems like a true captain. I honestly just don't see captain material out of a guy like Matthews
I always thought Mo should have been our captain. Say what you will about the quality of his season this year, he bleeds for this team, signed a team friendly deal to be here long term and consistently steps up and elevates when it matters most. But realistically it doesn't matter all that much who is wearing the letter.
 
I always thought Mo should have been our captain. Say what you will about the quality of his season this year, he bleeds for this team, signed a team friendly deal to be here long term and consistently steps up and elevates when it matters most. But realistically it doesn't matter all that much who is wearing the letter.
Agreed. He's got some huge warts in his game but has always seemed like a guy that steps up when he has to, is always well spoken in interviews and represents the Leafs well in the community.

If O'Reilly were to be here long term, I would anoint him captain
 
Agreed. He's got some huge warts in his game but has always seemed like a guy that steps up when he has to, is always well spoken in interviews and represents the Leafs well in the community.

If O'Reilly were to be here long term, I would anoint him captain
I don’t think the room would have any objection.
 
I never said anything about signing him long term. I can't be bothered to search back to where this started but I'm pretty sure all I said was that I'm pretty sure he'll be back next year.

Every situation is different and I don't find the Bolland story to be relevant here. As best I can remember, he was pretty good when he was here but whatever, that has nothing whatsoever to do with Schenn.
then you were just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing without actually reading the post and understanding it before hitting reply. I never said I had a problem with him being back next year or with his performance but that it would be silly to offer him a long term contract. I just used Bolland as an analogy nothing else.
 
Hes Boosh with fighting. They do a lot of similar things, Schenn is a little less aggressive in most senses (pinches, pressure, etc) but doesnt skate as well.
I bet if they could go back to the beginning of the season they'd have one of these types on the D from day 1.
 
then you were just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing without actually reading the post and understanding it before hitting reply. I never said I had a problem with him being back next year or with his performance but that it would be silly to offer him a long term contract. I just used Bolland as an analogy nothing else.
Sorry but that's a load of crap, no need for you to be insulting now.

This was your original post:
one of those guys probably not worth re signing beyond a year but an absolute clutch pick up for this year

This was my response:
I couldn't disagree more. I'm also 95+% certain that I'm not the only one who feels that way and he will be resigned.

Because you said "clutch pick up for this year", it sounded like by saying "re signing beyond a year" you meant that you didn't want to resign him beyond this year, or not re signed at all to put it another way. That's why I said I absolutely want him back but I also said nothing about signing him long term. If you agree with wanting him back on a short term contract than we agree on at least that much but where we still disagree is that I don't think it would be a clear mistake signing him for say two years and I don't have a problem with that all.
 
Schenn was the right type needed. With McCabe and Gio (and Holl, which most don't appreciate) also there, they have a certain worker bee, sacrifice DNA that has forged their backend identity.

I was curious and found my post below from Feb 18th thread. Dubas gets Schenn, trades Sandin and picks up McCabe. My dreams are Dubas reality lol. Well played KD.


Couldn't find my ROR suggestion well before the deadlline, too difficult to find via search, it may have been me just agreeing with another poster that I thought ROR would be perfect here at this juncture. He was definitely the one guy I wanted if Dubas couldn't get any other player.

The only long shot I hoped for was Bertuzzi to improve the left side but at least Dubas surprised us all with Acciari, Lafferty and now Knies. The team is thus revamped from last year. This version would beat last years version every time.

Speculation: Leafs are not done making moves?​


I'd be looking at a Schenn-type if he can swing it. Or, *gulp*, even trade one of the young Swede D-Men for a more established, strong, shutdown/physical D Man IF that other player has at least two years left on their contract for instance . Both of them have upside and are on reasonable, young contracts but I still think you want few doubts once they game enters the trenches. ESPECIALLY on the back end.
 
Sorry but that's a load of crap, no need for you to be insulting now.

This was your original post:


This was my response:


Because you said "clutch pick up for this year", it sounded like by saying "re signing beyond a year" you meant that you didn't want to resign him beyond this year, or not re signed at all to put it another way. That's why I said I absolutely want him back but I also said nothing about signing him long term. If you agree with wanting him back on a short term contract than we agree on at least that much but where we still disagree is that I don't think it would be a clear mistake signing him for say two years and I don't have a problem with that all.
insulting? if you find that insulting it’s better you stop following me around and replying to me. Just because you misread things and hit reply right away before comprehending what I stated isn’t on me. I said “not worth re signing beyond a year.”

We can’t re sign him for the current playoffs because he is already signed. How the heck would I be saying we don’t want to re sign him beyond this year by saying : not worth re signing beyond a year? Re signing means to sign again. So clearly that would not be a reference to letting him go after the playoffs but would be indicative of not signing him for too long when RE SIGNING him after this years playoffs. There’s a difference between a and the.

So we don’t really disagree much. I don’t know what your issue is that you reply to me when we don’t even disagree and continue arguing with me after misunderstanding what I say intentionally or not. It’s not the end of the world to re sign for 2 years or so but a long term contract isn’t the smartest idea which we agree on. If you want to bicker over whether a 1 year contract is best or 2 year then you don’t have the best way to use your time in all honesty. So idk why you would be pedantic enough to hash this out this much in the first place.
 
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