Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Jake McCabe (@50%), Sam Lafferty, cond. 2024 and 2025 5th round picks for Joey Anderson, Pavel Gogolev, 2025 1st (top 10 prot), 2026 2nd

[therealkoho]

They were last night, some of them went to the Springsteen concert.

Bored in the USA

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Wow.

Kyle Dubas outdoes Kyle Dubas.

Just when you think the O'Reilly trade is the greatest ever made, shifty Kyle Dubas steps up and does it again. And such a low cost too. How does one GM ever manage to mastermind all these lopsided trades?

It's 2021 all again.

When Kyle Dubas said he was going to roll it back, I assumed he meant with the same core. I didn't realize it applied to the trade deadline too. This is trade deadline 2021 all over again.

TDL2021.02

Foligno/O'Reilly - captain, middle six player, declining vet on the wrong side of thirty, DAMAGED GOODS.

Everyone else are bottom of the roster duds that won't make a difference.

And McCabe.

Who is more proper a 2RHD than a 1RHD.

Even though the Leafs will probably play him as one.

If you think ROR and Foligno are comparable players, you don't have a very strong understanding of hockey

 

[therealkoho]

Not really. He’s added these style of players throughout his tenure but I think the issue is he underestimated the need to have more than 1-2 guys that bring that element. And he also thought Clifford/Simmonds would be better than they were.

But Muzzin, Boosh, Foligno are examples of trying to add those elements.

Adding those guys was a great move, the problem was the team only 1 or 2 available at any one time, and the great teams have 5 or 6 of those guys in the lineup every night.

As we all know the NHL is not for the faint of heart, and a punch in the face can often be more important than scoring a goal.

 

[thusk]

Wow.

Kyle Dubas outdoes Kyle Dubas.

Just when you think the O'Reilly trade is the greatest ever made, shifty Kyle Dubas steps up and does it again. And such a low cost too. How does one GM ever manage to mastermind all these lopsided trades?

It's 2021 all again.

When Kyle Dubas said he was going to roll it back, I assumed he meant with the same core. I didn't realize it applied to the trade deadline too. This is trade deadline 2021 all over again.

TDL2021.02

Foligno/O'Reilly - captain, middle six player, declining vet on the wrong side of thirty, DAMAGED GOODS.

Everyone else are bottom of the roster duds that won't make a difference.

And McCabe.

Who is more proper a 2RHD than a 1RHD.

Even though the Leafs will probably play him as one.

How many season of 55+ pts foligno had on carreer? 2 ...How many time rielly had 55+ last 12 season? 11... please its like make a comparing exemple nylander to mikheyev...

Last time they reach stanley cup
Chara (at 42)-mcavoy (at 19)
Krug-carlo
Grzelcyk-clifton
Or
vegas stanley cup line up
schmidt-miller
Theodore-engelland
Mcnabb(braydon) -Sbisa
Or
last pittsburgh stanley cup
Dumoulin-hainsey
Cole-schultz
Daley-maatta

Mccabe-brodie
Rielly-liljegren
Gio-holl

This D are not worst than any one of those 3 D who reach stanley cup, Mccabe fill a need leafs had in their D. We dont expect him to be a elite Dman, but doing whats he goos at like shutdown opposite player and playing physical.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

How many season of 55+ pts foligno had on carreer? 2 ...How many time rielly had 55+ last 12 season? 11... please its like make a comparing exemple nylander to mikheyev...

Last time they reach stanley cup
Chara (at 42)-mcavoy (at 19)
Krug-carlo
Grzelcyk-clifton
Or
vegas stanley cup line up
schmidt-miller
Theodore-engelland
Mcnabb(braydon) -Sbisa
Or
last pittsburgh stanley cup
Dumoulin-hainsey
Cole-schultz
Daley-maatta

Mccabe-brodie
Rielly-liljegren
Gio-holl

This D are not worst than any one of those 3 D who reach stanley cup, Mccabe fill a need leafs had in their D. We dont expect him to be a elite Dman, but doing whats he goos at like shutdown opposite player and playing physical.

Thank you for.the response.

I humbly disagree.

If McCabe/Brodie is your top pair you aren't going far.

Where' Sandin?

 

[therealkoho]

Re Howard Berger: I can remember him being all in for trading a first rounder for Kelly Kisio, back in the day.

Don’t give up your day job with the undertaker, Howard.

His families business I believe, it's what he did before he tried being a sports wag, but it's a tough game but made tougher when you suggest to a coach that you know better.

 

[Drytoast]

Anyone have an update of today's practice lines? I'm very curious as to who is gonna sit.

 

[thusk]

Thank you for.the response.

I humbly disagree.

If McCabe/Brodie is your top pair you aren't going far.

Where' Sandin?

But Leafs dont have a top pair or bottom pair

Mccabe-brodie = shutdown pair
Rielly-liljegren = offensive pair to create as much possible offensive occasion
Gio-Holl = all around pair

Sandin will be sit because he still struggling defensivly and risky player and leafs already having rielly doing it

And i will not be surprise to see sandin being trade this summer with mccabe trade

 

[Thornbury]

Dubas flexing

Interesting how teams tend to go back to the same trade partners with some regularity. For Dubas, it seems to be Chicago and Arizona, and Vancouver to a lesser extent.

 

[MCR74]

This has to be the most balanced and complete team in 20 years

Tough luck we have bunch grade A contenders in our division but can't say Dubie is not trying

That's it. Dubas can only do so much. You think Edmonton goes the distance if they have to face Boston, Tampa Bay, Carolina, etc. back to back? The eastern conference will be a dogfight.

 

[saffronleaf]

excellent deal

just wanna show some love to joey anderson tho. he's been decent when asked to play and he'll be nice on the blackhawks bottom six.

 

[ToDavid]

Wow.

Kyle Dubas outdoes Kyle Dubas.

Just when you think the O'Reilly trade is the greatest ever made, shifty Kyle Dubas steps up and does it again. And such a low cost too. How does one GM ever manage to mastermind all these lopsided trades?

It's 2021 all again.

When Kyle Dubas said he was going to roll it back, I assumed he meant with the same core. I didn't realize it applied to the trade deadline too. This is trade deadline 2021 all over again.

TDL2021.02

Foligno/O'Reilly - captain, middle six player, declining vet on the wrong side of thirty, DAMAGED GOODS.

Everyone else are bottom of the roster duds that won't make a difference.

And McCabe.

Who is more proper a 2RHD than a 1RHD.

Even though the Leafs will probably play him as one.

O'Reilly at his worst is like Foligno at his peak. One was dealing with what he described as a "dibilitating back injury", the other broke his foot. They are not at all comparable players or situations.

Hell O'Reilly doesn't even have to score. His ~78% on the faceoff dot is looking like it's worth the price paid alone.

 

[TMLAM34]

But Leafs dont have a top pair or bottom pair

Mccabe-brodie = shutdown pair
Rielly-liljegren = offensive pair to create as much possible offensive occasion
Gio-Holl = all around pair

Sandin will be sit because he still struggling defensivly and risky player and leafs already having rielly doing it

And i will not be surprise to see sandin being trade this summer with mccabe trade

I can see Keefe running a 3 man rotation with the third defensive pair between Giordano, Holl and Sandin. I think the top four is pretty much a lock with Rielly, McCabe, Brodie and Liljegren. Giordano will also need some rest down the stretch.

 

[thusk]

I can see Keefe running a 3 man rotation with the third defensive pair between Giordano, Holl and Sandin. I think the top four is pretty much a lock with Rielly, McCabe, Brodie and Liljegren. Giordano will also need some rest down the stretch.

Youre right but i think every d will have some rest since end of season

But to start the playoff i think d geoup will be this one with sandin and timmins in case of injury

 

[The Masters]

Interesting how teams tend to go back to the same trade partners with some regularity. For Dubas, it seems to be Chicago and Arizona, and Vancouver to a lesser extent.

It's like any business really... you deal with people you are most comfortable with. But in the end, the reality of it is Dubas is a buyer and Blackhawks are sellers. Natural marriage.

 

[Thornbury]

The two 5th rounders we got back also have sneaky value. Leaf 5th rounders from recent years; Grebenkin, Voit, Ovchinnikov, Koster, Kral.

 

[The Masters]

The two 5th rounders we got back also have sneaky value. Leaf 5th rounders from recent years; Grebenkin, Voit, Ovchinnikov, Koster, Kral.

What's the condition on them?

 

[Buds17]

It's like any business really... you deal with people you are most comfortable with. But in the end, the reality of it is Dubas is a buyer and Blackhawks are sellers. Natural marriage.

Agreed. Being a selling team in the opposing conference right now should definitely be conducive to a trading partnership with a team like Toronto's.

 

[Judas Tavares]

The two 5th rounders we got back also have sneaky value. Leaf 5th rounders from recent years; Grebenkin, Voit, Ovchinnikov, Koster, Kral.

Agreed. It's a small piece, but a smart piece of business. Recently I was criticizing Dubas for not replenishing picks often enough. The only method had been trading down and when he traded Kapanen, which was a great move. Getting these picks back here and there may seem like small potatoes but can really help.

 

[Hoverhand]

Agreed. It's a small piece, but a smart piece of business. Recently I was criticizing Dubas for not replenishing picks often enough. The only method had been trading down and when he traded Kapanen, which was a great move. Getting these picks back here and there may seem like small potatoes but can really help.

Getting two picks with Murray, who has been LTIR fodder + decent in 20 games, is also an underappreciated move from his tenure.

 

[kb]

What's the condition on them?

For one year, the condition is the best of the 5th round picks they have. For the other year, the 5th gets upgraded to a 3rd if McCabe spends significant time injured is and unable to play - terms not announced.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

What's the condition on them?

Turn into 3rds if McCabe doesn't play enough next year.

 

[Superstar]

Bored in the USA

Always thought it was born, no wonder Springsteen was screaming so loudly throughout the song, he must have been bored out of his wits...

 

[darrylsittler27]

Is it just me? Lose first round and no picks forever...gulp.

 

[TMLAM34]

Youre right but i think every d will have some rest since end of season

But to start the playoff i think d geoup will be this one with sandin and timmins in case of injury

It’ll be interesting to see how Sandin handles it if he’s the odd man out come playoff time. That’ll be two seasons where he’s played a majority of the regular season games and sat out in the playoffs…

I wouldn’t be surprised if he requests a trade in the off-season if that’s the case. But I can see Giordano taking a huge step back next year so it would be important to keep him around. I just don’t know if he’ll understand or see it that way.