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LD Travis Sanheim - Calgary Hitmen, WHL (2014, 17th, PHI)

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Ferrero Rocher said:
Haha wow. It's like talking to a bunch of kids, I just said that in the AHL he won't have the puck a lot so he'll have to play a ton of defence. Of course he doesn't need to play defence in the juniors, he's a 19 year old 1st round prospect. When he's on the ice, he has the puck.
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Your lack of hockey knowledge is on full display in this thread. Is Travis Sanheim suddenly going to lose his skating, instincts, and feel for the game once he gets to the pro level? Those are transferable skills. Just because the competition picks up doesn't mean he's suddenly going to stop being a good possession player. Does he have things to improve on? Absolutely. No one can argue that. That's why he's in the WHL and not playing 20 minutes a night in the NHL. Is he any different than Shea Theodore, Ivan Provorov, or Josh Morrissey? No, but I don't see people throwing their 2 cents in those players' threads.
 
What's wrong with that comment? Stop getting defensive, I think he has room to improve defensively. It seems like to most Flyers fans that his defensive game is fine, so why isn't he in the NHL?

FLYguy3911 said:
Your lack of hockey knowledge is on full display in this thread. Is Travis Sanheim suddenly going to lose his skating, instincts, and feel for the game once he gets to the pro level? Those are transferable skills. Just because the competition picks up doesn't mean he's suddenly going to stop being a good possession player. Does he have things to improve on? Absolutely. No one can argue that. That's why he's in the WHL and not playing 20 minutes a night in the NHL. Is he any different than Shea Theodore, Ivan Provorov, or Josh Morrissey? No, but I don't see people throwing their 2 cents in those players' threads.
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No he isn't. And that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that in the pro game, competition picks up. Less time to skate with the puck, less time to make a decision. He might still be a good possession player, who knows how he adjusts to the pro game. He'll have to adjust though because the AHL is a much harder competition than major junior. He's probably going to start off slow because it's a new league, just like when he went from midget to junior. He'll have to understand the league, then with experience understand what he can and can't do.

Adjusting is where players have trouble. You're underrating the transition of going into a pro league, I don't think he's going to become a good possession player depending on where he plays.
 
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Ferrero Rocher said:
What's wrong with that comment? Stop getting defensive, I think he has room to improve defensively. It seems like to most Flyers fans that his defensive game is fine, so why isn't he in the NHL?

No he isn't. And that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that in the pro game, competition picks up. Less time to skate with the puck, less time to make a decision. He might still be a good possession player, who knows how he adjusts to the pro game. He'll have to adjust though because the AHL is a much harder competition than major junior. He's probably going to start off slow because it's a new league, just like when he went from midget to junior. He'll have to understand the league, then with experience understand what he can and can't do.

Adjusting is where players have trouble. You're underrating the transition of going into a pro league, I don't think he's going to become a good possession player depending on where he plays.
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Good post. It's quite a step up from juniors to the NHL, let alone the AHL. I think Sanheim will likely spend some time on the farm and benefit greatly from it. He's going to be a heck of a player in the long run.
 
I started reading some of these comments but then stopped cause it was getting annoying. I watch a ton of WHL and am very familiar with Sanheim. He is an awesome player and will lead the WHL in dmen scoring by end of season. Sanheim, along with every young offensive dman can always work on the defensive game but it's definitely not a major issue for him. He is a very special player that will play in the AHL next season and will turn into a good NHLer in a few years.
 
Ohashi_Jouzu said:
Man... I dunno. Possibly my two favourite defensemen of the past couple of drafts (after Ekblad, I suppose), and I don't know which I'd choose.
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We had that argument over the summer in the Flyers forum. It got a little heated and both sides had there fair share of supporters.
 
Ohashi_Jouzu said:
Man... I dunno. Possibly my two favourite defensemen of the past couple of drafts (after Ekblad, I suppose), and I don't know which I'd choose.
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haha its funny cause my favorite out of them all is actually Gostisbehere... such a deadly group wow
 
Ghost is my favorite too. He may not end up as the best one but he's my favorite to watch by far. Can't wait for him to get called up.
 
Skinnyjimmy08 said:
haha its funny cause my favorite out of them all is actually Gostisbehere... such a deadly group wow
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Not exactly from the past couple of drafts (being a 2012 draftee... which is 4 drafts ago, scary enough), but he's fun to watch, too. Would still pick Sanheim or Provorov over him if they were all available in the same draft, though.

I wasn't just talking about Flyers draft picks either, btw. Would you take Ghost over every other defenseman in the '12 draft? I'd have a hard time not choosing Lindholm, Trouba, or whoever.
 
Ohashi_Jouzu said:
Not exactly from the past couple of drafts (being a 2012 draftee... which is 4 drafts ago, scary enough), but he's fun to watch, too. Would still pick Sanheim or Provorov over him if they were all available in the same draft, though.

I wasn't just talking about Flyers draft picks either, btw. Would you take Ghost over every other defenseman in the '12 draft? I'd have a hard time not choosing Lindholm, Trouba, or whoever.
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ya I hear what you are saying. Ya as of now there are only I think 2 other dmen I would take over Gostisbehere in the '12 draft. But I am not going to say who cause the thread will start falling off topic a bit Im sure haha.

But anyways, Sanheim is deadly, Philly has a deadly group of dmen prospects and if they all pan out, Philly is gonna be such an exciting team to watch
 
Ohashi_Jouzu said:
Not exactly from the past couple of drafts (being a 2012 draftee... which is 4 drafts ago, scary enough), but he's fun to watch, too. Would still pick Sanheim or Provorov over him if they were all available in the same draft, though.

I wasn't just talking about Flyers draft picks either, btw. Would you take Ghost over every other defenseman in the '12 draft? I'd have a hard time not choosing Lindholm, Trouba, or whoever.
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I'd definitely take him over Pouliot
 
Proust said:
Wait, he didn't get a 9 game tryout?

but, but!

lol
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Did Provorov get one either? No. Because Hextall has openly said he doesn't do 9 game trials. It's cool, though. Keep making stupid, thoughtless posts and being uninformed.
 
I love the way Hextall is running things... when it's obvious they aren't going to crack the lineup that particular season, let them go back to junior and develop after a few exhibition games. Ive seen some players over the years stick around for a handful of regular season games in NHL and then get sent back like 10 games into their junior season and weirdly enough it kills some momentum that particular junior team has cause there is chemistry already made with lines and there is just a bit of an awkward period. Sure a week later everything is back to normal again and the team is better, but I just like to see them back with their team from the get go to start their junior season and let them put up huge points and get their confidence soaring.

Vancouver is still keeping Virtanen around and he hasn't dressed yet and I cant figure out why they aren't sending him back yet. Him and Sanheim are going to have huge years on the Hitmen and I just think its only a matter of time until he is sent back, so just do it now and let him actually play some hockey
 
Yeah, HF, Hextall should have kept these kids around and developed them like smart GM's Snow and Benning (keeping Pulock and Virtanen up to be healthy scratches). So ****ing clueless this website.
 
Stizzle said:
Did Provorov get one either? No. Because Hextall has openly said he doesn't do 9 game trials. It's cool, though. Keep making stupid, thoughtless posts and being uninformed.
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Yep.

For non-Flyer fans:

Hextall said that he disagrees with 9 game trials, and that if they are not certain a guy can play the whole 82 game schedule in the line-up in a decent sized role they are not going to be with the Flyers to start the season.

He has been on record as saying lots of kids look good in camp, and run on adrenaline in their first few NHL games when given 9 game trials, which makes you think they could maybe hack the whole schedule. But that once the buzz of playing in the NHL wears off and the long, tough, physically draining season starts to get to them they can end up not being at a level where they merit being in the line-up or playing limited minutes... which in turn can stunt development.

He believes that patience never obviously stunted a players development, whereas lots of players were rushed after looking good in camp and then were stunted by not playing enough minutes or playing over their head.

So he would rather send guys down if unsure, and by doing so not falsely get their hopes up, and also not disrupt their season.

He sent all the kids down in time for them to start the season with their junior team... which was no coincidence, as he has also said that guys staying up and missing junior games can in turn mean their mind is somewhere else when sent back down and they are not in the groove with their junior team-mates, which can negatively impact their junior season.

I mean, Mirco Mueller is a great example of exactly that last year. Looked great in camp, looked good to start year, kept up past 9 games... not AHL eligible, falls off, ends up playing 14-16 minutes a night on the bottom pairing (when not a scratch) when he was averaging ~18 mins for his first 15 or so games of the year.

Mueller had not proved from his junior play he was too good for the WHL... and if San Jose could have a 'do over' I imagine they send him back last year.
 
cant go wrong with sending guys back... heck even Shayne Gostisbehere was unreal in preseason games and was scoring goals and shooting a ton and the PP looked great but he still had other things to work on. Sure the exciting decision for fans would be to keep him up, but Hextall is a former NHL player and he has seen many young kids come in and start well and then crap the bed and he is doing everything in his power to prepare these kids to do well full time
 
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