LD Shakir Mukhamadullin (2020, 20th, NJD; traded to SJS)

[Boonk]

Devils blue line will have:
Hamilton
Smith
L. Hughes
Mukhamadullin

Talk about being absolutely loaded for the future.

 

[Buck Dancer]

Devils blue line will have:
Hamilton
Smith
L. Hughes
Mukhamadullin

Talk about being absolutely loaded for the future.

You can also add Severson, if he agrees to an extension.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Devils blue line will have:
Hamilton
Smith
L. Hughes
Mukhamadullin

Talk about being absolutely loaded for the future.

The Devils haven’t had a defenseman get a single Norris vote since Rafalski in 2007. I think it’s about time they finally might have an at least above average blue line

 

[Rayquaza64]

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Devils blue line will have:
Hamilton
Smith
L. Hughes
Mukhamadullin

Talk about being absolutely loaded for the future.

Someone is going to have to learn how to play the right side. I think I’ve heard Luke Hughes can play both sides.

 

[Boonk]

Someone is going to have to learn how to play the right side. I think I’ve heard Luke Hughes can play both sides.

Smith and Hughes can both play RD

 

[SoundAndFury]

Mukhamadullin is playing on the right this season, for the most part.

 

[Blackjack]

Smith and Hughes can both play RD

Mukhamadullin is playing on the right this season, for the most part.

Devils seem completely opposed to having left shot dmen play RD though. They played Matt Tennyson over Will Butcher last year because of handedness, that is some serious commitment.

 

[Brodeur]

Devils seem completely opposed to having left shot dmen play RD though. They played Matt Tennyson over Will Butcher last year because of handedness, that is some serious commitment.

Tennyson instead of Butcher was probably as much a role thing as it was a handedness decision. Tennyson was better suited to kill penalties than Butcher. Meanwhile we had plenty of power play options between Smith-Severson-Subban and even Vatanen to start the season. Once those guys got hurt, Butcher drew into the lineup since he fit a role.

Tennyson: 21 GP - 14:30 TOI/game. 13:24 even strength/game, 1:05 shorthanded/game
Butcher: 23 GP - 19:02 TOI/game, 17:41 even strength/game, 1:20 PP/game

If Hughes or Mukhamadullin end up being comfortable playing on the right side as they're developing, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they'd get a look long term.

 

[Blackjack]

Tennyson instead of Butcher was probably as much a role thing as it was a handedness decision. Tennyson was better suited to kill penalties than Butcher. Meanwhile we had plenty of power play options between Smith-Severson-Subban and even Vatanen to start the season. Once those guys got hurt, Butcher drew into the lineup since he fit a role.

Tennyson: 21 GP - 14:30 TOI/game. 13:24 even strength/game, 1:05 shorthanded/game
Butcher: 23 GP - 19:02 TOI/game, 17:41 even strength/game, 1:20 PP/game

If Hughes or Mukhamadullin end up being comfortable playing on the right side as they're developing, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they'd get a look long term.

I guess we'll see, my perception is that there's an extreme aversion to it. Tennyson is not suited to doing anything at the NHL level, playing him over a legitimate NHL caliber defenseman in Butcher really raised my eyebrow.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

I guess we'll see, my perception is that there's an extreme aversion to it. Tennyson is not suited to doing anything at the NHL level, playing him over a legitimate NHL caliber defenseman in Butcher really raised my eyebrow.

The audacity of the HFBoards. Clearly far more capable of determining what skills are required of an NHL defenseman.

As opposed to a coaching staff led by someone who WAS an NHL defenseman for over a decade.

 

[Blackjack]

The audacity of the HFBoards. Clearly far more capable of determining what skills are required of an NHL defenseman.

As opposed to a coaching staff led by someone who WAS an NHL defenseman for over a decade.

Yeah, who could question a coaching staff that delivered the results that they did?

 

[Atas2000]

Impressions from the game yesterday:

An atrociously bad giveaway in the very first shift behind the own net that nearly resulted in a goal against, just poor defenceman thinking. He should have got rid of the puck when he saw the other team's most skilled forward closing in on him.

Has taken two fairly unnecessary penalties. None of those were forced or inevitable.

The talk about his shortcomings on D is real. He still is a liability defensively at times. It's not like he can't defend, but he is making mistakes and with every year there is less leash I give him on the learning curve.

Anchored the 2PP unit. Maybe he would produce more on the first unit, but that is Larsen's. The whole team did not do much on the offence.

 

[SoundAndFury]

This doesn't tell almost anything about his skills, it's just what happened in the game in which his team happened to lose, be shut-out and he picked up 1/3 of this season's PIMs.

Also, stating 19 y.o. is still a defensive liability at times is kinda funny.

 

[Atas2000]

This doesn't tell almost anything about his skills, it's just what happened in the game in which his team happened to lose, be shut-out and he picked up 1/3 of this season's PIMs.

Also, stating 19 y.o. is still a defensive liability at times is kinda funny.

This does tell a lot about his defensive play. I did not say he sucks. I said he makes mistakes. And from watching him quite abit by now, it does happen in every game more or less. Team performance in that game does not matter much. He could have been the notable OD for a losing tesm. He wasn't.

He is a 1st round pick defenceman. This calls for higher expectations whether you like it or not. And this is also triggered by a particular crowd of people who tend to be too optimistic with him. He is a good prospect at this point, but no home run in my book. That defensive game of his could go either way and that will determine whether he is a bona fide 1st round pick or not so much.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Yeah, it's really difficult to balance it between people who overhype him and Debbie Downers like you. He is never going to be a risk-averse player, you take the good with the bad. His skating is excellent for a big man, his shooting is much improved this year and his defensive game is good enough for legitimate top-4 minutes in the KHL on a good team at age 19. Thinking he is not a legit 1st rounder at this point is ludicrous.

You coming here after he just had a really bad game doesn't contribute anything to the overall picture. It just means he had a bad game, everyone does at times. If he was the unreliable turnover machine you are trying to paint he would be playing 10 sheltered minutes per game.

 

[Eggtimer]

Yeah, it's really difficult to balance it between people who overhype him and Debbie Downers like you. He is never going to be a risk-averse player, you take the good with the bad. His skating is excellent for a big man, his shooting is much improved this year and his defensive game is good enough for legitimate top-4 minutes in the KHL on a good team at age 19. Thinking he is not a legit 1st rounder at this point is ludicrous.

You coming here after he just had a really bad game doesn't contribute anything to the overall picture. It just means he had a bad game, everyone does at times. If he was the unreliable turnover machine you are trying to paint he would be playing 10 sheltered minutes per game.

Well said.
I can see calling out his defensive play if he hardly ever made good plays and is consistently game in and game out making numerous defensive mistakes. He hasn’t . He has played a sound game more often than not. He is 19 years old playing top minutes in the KHL.
Sure he will have a bad game here and there and make some mistakes but it seems like every time he does make a mistake , it’s seen as chronic mistakes he makes all the time ….when simply that is not true.

 

[Atas2000]

Yeah, it's really difficult to balance it between people who overhype him and Debbie Downers like you. He is never going to be a risk-averse player, you take the good with the bad. His skating is excellent for a big man, his shooting is much improved this year and his defensive game is good enough for legitimate top-4 minutes in the KHL on a good team at age 19. Thinking he is not a legit 1st rounder at this point is ludicrous.

You coming here after he just had a really bad game doesn't contribute anything to the overall picture. It just means he had a bad game, everyone does at times. If he was the unreliable turnover machine you are trying to paint he would be playing 10 sheltered minutes per game.

That's your problem. You re in the overly optimistic and certainly unrealistic crowd on this particular prospect. So everybody who dares critsizing anything about his game is Debie Downer? Balance is where I stand. Listing all the postive things about him and leaving out the negative is what you do.

Good for legit Top-4 defenceman in the KHL? So was Zhuravlyov at 19. Now what? Is Zhuravlyov a legit 1st rounder defenceman prospect now? Good KHL team? Their offence sure looks good, both on paper and on the ice, but their D is an another story. Yes, for their D Mukhamadullin sure is a legit Top4 guy and the 2PP anchor. And maybe for many other KHL teams, but that is all while not mentioning the fact that the D is oveall weaker talent wise in the KHL. You are (deliberately) using measuring sticks most of NA readers would accept without further analysis, because they lack the understanding of the KHL levels.

I am measuring Mukhamadullin against the prospect of playing in the NHL someday. He easily has the tools to be a career KHLer. But that's not what I am interested in when I watch his games.

And grand apologies for coming here after his team happened to play at my home arena and me whitnessing his game first hand. I won't do it again. Promise.

P.S. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. "Unreliable turnover machine"? Quote me please.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Yeah, it's really difficult to balance it between people who overhype him and Debbie Downers like you. He is never going to be a risk-averse player, you take the good with the bad. His skating is excellent for a big man, his shooting is much improved this year and his defensive game is good enough for legitimate top-4 minutes in the KHL on a good team at age 19. Thinking he is not a legit 1st rounder at this point is ludicrous.

You coming here after he just had a really bad game doesn't contribute anything to the overall picture. It just means he had a bad game, everyone does at times. If he was the unreliable turnover machine you are trying to paint he would be playing 10 sheltered minutes per game.

From afar, the bolded is kind of all I take from this just persuing the thread - if anyone seems triggered it's not anyone "overly optimistic" on the kid. I don't know why this seems to bug the guy so much that he makes it a point to constantly whine about what he can't do rather than acknowledge what he can.

Even the most optimistic don't think Mukhamadullin is a defensive rock, but that seems like the foil that guy wants to argue against. If he was, at 19, he'd be among the best prospects in the world.

 

[Atas2000]

From afar, the bolded is kind of all I take from this just persuing the thread - if anyone seems triggered it's not anyone "overly optimistic" on the kid. I don't know why this seems to bug the guy so much that he makes it a point to constantly whine about what he can't do rather than acknowledge what he can.

Even the most optimistic don't think Mukhamadullin is a defensive rock, but that seems like the foil that guy wants to argue against. If he was, at 19, he'd be among the best prospects in the world.

LOL You are the guys who are triggered. You get emotional over every single valid critisizm. You make it a point to instead of discussing a player in his thread attack my observations from an actual game.

I know HF fairly well by now and the mindless protectiveness and overrating the prospects of ma'team, but give it a break, and think about what you want from a thread. Endless praise and highlights of successful plays?

And then try opening your half closed eyes and actually read my posts. You accusing me of "whine", "bug" and claiming that I don't acknowledge what a player can do tells me you have a reading comprehension problem.

Anyway, if you guys don't need input from someone who actually watches a player play, I won't bother you with any more toxic negativity I have the urge to spew

As for you last sentence, there is nothing wrong with being Ivan Provorov. Nothing at all.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

LOL You are the guys who are triggered. You get emotional over every single valid critisizm. You make it a point to instead of discussing a player in his thread attack my observations from an actual game.

I know HF fairly well by now and the mindless protectiveness and overrating the prospects of ma'team, but give it break, and think about what you want from a thread. Endless praise and highlights of successful plays?

And then try opening your half closed eyes and actually read my posts. You accusing me of "whine", "bug" and claiming that I don't acknowledge what a player can do tells me you have a reading comprehension problem.

Anyway, if you guys don't need input from someone who actually watches a player play, I won't bother you with any more toxic negativity I have the urge to spew

As for you last sentence, there is nothing wrong with being Ivan Provorov. Nothing at all.

You're off the boil here. You definitely seem triggered - if this is you not triggered, well...

Again, just reading this thread, it seems very much like you've taken it upon yourself to be the self-anointed balance maker because you think people are "too optimistic" about him. It comes across as a weird fixation. You seem to believe the so-called "optimists" think Mukhamadullin is a perfect prospect with no shortcomings, which is very much imagined by you. The degree to which you complain about those shortcomings (and anyone that doesn't note those shortcomings enough for your liking) is why you get the pushback. Most people are just excited about his progress since his draft year and upside, and that seems to bug you for some reason.

You've clearly misunderstood my last sentence, perhaps from reading with half-closed eyes, so I'll make sure to explain further. My point was that Mukhamadullin, with his skating and offensive skillset, were he to be some defensive monster at 19 would be among the best prospects in the world. That he still has issues and things to work on at his age, is pretty much completely in line with late first-round picks that still need to develop. I think if anyone has expectations for him out of whack given his draft range, it's you.

 

[SoundAndFury]

SYu played Ak Bars today yet again, Shak with 18+ minutes TOI, PP goal, 3 shots, 1 block, and 2 hits. Salavat lost in the shootout though so I eagerly await Atas' report how Shak's deficiencies meant they didn't win

 

[Caser]

 

[Atas2000]

SYu played Ak Bars today yet again, Shak with 18+ minutes TOI, PP goal, 3 shots, 1 block, and 2 hits. Salavat lost in the shootout though so I eagerly await Atas' report how Shak's deficiencies meant they didn't win

They didn't. Live with it.

 

[Atas2000]

You're off the boil here. You definitely seem triggered - if this is you not triggered, well...

Again, just reading this thread, it seems very much like you've taken it upon yourself to be the self-anointed balance maker because you think people are "too optimistic" about him. It comes across as a weird fixation. You seem to believe the so-called "optimists" think Mukhamadullin is a perfect prospect with no shortcomings, which is very much imagined by you. The degree to which you complain about those shortcomings (and anyone that doesn't note those shortcomings enough for your liking) is why you get the pushback. Most people are just excited about his progress since his draft year and upside, and that seems to bug you for some reason.

You've clearly misunderstood my last sentence, perhaps from reading with half-closed eyes, so I'll make sure to explain further. My point was that Mukhamadullin, with his skating and offensive skillset, were he to be some defensive monster at 19 would be among the best prospects in the world. That he still has issues and things to work on at his age, is pretty much completely in line with late first-round picks that still need to develop. I think if anyone has expectations for him out of whack given his draft range, it's you.

Seems like you are triggered much to me.

It's so funny, because I have no stock in any of the parties involved. As I said, if you people don't want honest evaluation from someone who watches players first hand, I am fine with it. Maybe you like surprises, good and bad ones when the players come over.

Anyway.

The so-called optimists are posting in this very thread since draft day. Go read those posts.

Listing shortcomings has no degree to it. It is a list of facts. Just as much as his offensive numbers are facts.

I am getting the pushback because I dare critisizing somebody's team prospect. Very common on here. It is funny too as Mukhamadullin is my team's prospect. I am a Team Russia fan. He is not a Devils or whatever prospect to me. I could not care less wehere he spends his career as long as he becomes a better player for Team Russia.