LD Sean Day - Mississauga Steelheads, OHL (2016 Draft)

[JL17]

Day sounds like Byfuglien.

 

[Street Hawk]

From the sounds of it, the best fit for Sean Day is to go to an organization that is sound defensively. They need a great teacher. Like a Larry Robinson to take him under his wing.

The danger with drafting Day, is that if he doesn't crack your NHL lineup in the next 2 seasons, he'll play 5 years in the OHL. Would he be motivated at that point? That would be the concern.

 

[93LEAFS]

From the sounds of it, the best fit for Sean Day is to go to an organization that is sound defensively. They need a great teacher. Like a Larry Robinson to take him under his wing.

The danger with drafting Day, is that if he doesn't crack your NHL lineup in the next 2 seasons, he'll play 5 years in the OHL. Would he be motivated at that point? That would be the concern.

Pretty sure there is a loophole that allows him to go to the AHL at 19 due to having played 4 years of junior. Last time it was used it was Spezza. It is a very rare situation.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

From the sounds of it, the best fit for Sean Day is to go to an organization that is sound defensively. They need a great teacher. Like a Larry Robinson to take him under his wing.

The danger with drafting Day, is that if he doesn't crack your NHL lineup in the next 2 seasons, he'll play 5 years in the OHL. Would he be motivated at that point? That would be the concern.

Seems like a good fit for Nashville.

Phil Housley is on the coaching staff, Weber on the roster, they've always been known as a solid defensive team, and there would be next to no media hounding the former exceptional status player.

 

[NHL Dude 120]

From the sounds of it, the best fit for Sean Day is to go to an organization that is sound defensively. They need a great teacher. Like a Larry Robinson to take him under his wing.

The danger with drafting Day, is that if he doesn't crack your NHL lineup in the next 2 seasons, he'll play 5 years in the OHL. Would he be motivated at that point? That would be the concern.

He would be eligible to play in the AHL in the 2017-2018 season.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

He just tweeted & then deleted a scale showing 225lbs and his feet lol

Said something along the lines of "I guess that's what happens when you show how much you care"

Sorry Sean, we're too quick for your deletions bud.

 

[Unbiased]

Day and DeBrincat will be guys drafted later that we go back and say "We knew they could be this why didn't someone take that risk" More so DeBrincat because Day certainly needs some work.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I hope the Wings take a gamble on him. Seems like the classic boom or bust prospect.

Agree, I want them to take Day very badly.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Day has not appeared in the last three Steelheads games. Apparently he is not injured.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Day has not appeared in the last three Steelheads games. Apparently he is not injured.

They said "stiff neck" on the broadcast yesterday.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

The summary from the Knights thread of posters from the Miss thread is...

Sean Day....................What Happened?
Mississauga Posters from Yesterday:
Torts:
"Day is, was and always will be a great offensive dman. I don't say puck moving because he fools around to much with the puck when in his own zone. His skating is top notch no one will argue that but has he shown disinterest in coaching staff and very minimal development from his 15 year old season."

Macker88
"Day had four teeth knocked out on the Sunday vs Sudbury, he should have probably been back for this weekends games, but since he wasn't it led to speculation. However I was told there is some concern he may be concussed and thats the reason he was absent from the lineup this past weekend."

NHL Fanatic:
"Personally the only way I see him coming back is to strictly improve his trade value. At this point, he looks to be done in finishing the season with Mississauga. Obviously I could be wrong, but there are too many things pointing to a trade at this point."

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I hope he ends up with us, Babcock could do wonders with him

 

[luki here]

Pretty sure there is a loophole that allows him to go to the AHL at 19 due to having played 4 years of junior. Last time it was used it was Spezza. It is a very rare situation.

Pulock as well.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Pulock as well.

Pulock was a late birthday.

In theory Day could play 5 OHL seasons before being considered an overager.

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

Some nhl coach will straighten him out. Or he's just another Ho Sang it seems.

 

[Zaddy]

Not sure if it's been posted but here's a read about Day:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juni...ve-made-an-exception-for-steelheads-sean-day/

Some interesting tidbits in there.

“I’m not going to say the clichéd answer about not looking at the draft lists,†he says. “Everybody does. I know what people have said or written about me. People forget I’m 17. I have a whole season to help my [draft] stock. When I see the draft boards and I’m not even in the first round, I just tune it out and say to myself, ‘C’mon, that’s dumb.’â€

Says one former member of Hockey Canada who sat in on the evaluations of Ekblad, McDavid and Day: “Of the players we talked to, Sean was probably at the low end of the spectrum when it came to emotional maturity.†Day’s coach and GM in Mississauga, James Boyd, puts an even finer point on it. “[Ekblad and McDavid] were old for their age, young adults at 15, but Sean was an average 15-year-old,†Boyd says. “You could see the difference [emotionally] between him and the 19- and 20-year-olds on the team. Not that he’s a bad kid, just that he’s not Crosby, not McDavi, not at that level of seriousness.â€

 

[1Gold Standard]

Hockey Canada should be doing everything possible to help this kid out over the next few years, as it was their dumb decision that got him into this mess to begin with.

Hockey Canada has to stop being the recruitment arm of the CHL.

 

[Woll Smoth]

What's the deal with Day. Seems like a everyone has concerns over his maturity and bring up character issues ? Seems like some want to avoid this prospect or see him fail. Why's he got a target on his back?

 

[Diddy]

What's the deal with Day. Seems like a everyone has concerns over his maturity and bring up character issues ? Seems like some want to avoid this prospect or see him fail. Why's he got a target on his back?

Probably because he was given exceptional status when he didn't deserve it.

 

[Dodospice]

Everyone says he was given exceptional status when he doesn't deserve it, but quite frankly I believe that to be false. The kid showed the ability to play in the league , exceptional status doesn't guarantee they'll be an NHL superstar, it only means they have the ability to play in the CHL as a 15 year old. He took advantage of his opportunity, just like everyone else would have. It isn't his fault he was granted it, he applied and received it. Don't harp on the kid for showing that ability.

 

[Spade]

What's the deal with Day. Seems like a everyone has concerns over his maturity and bring up character issues ? Seems like some want to avoid this prospect or see him fail. Why's he got a target on his back?

I personally don't think he's much different from most young prospects in terms of maturity off the ice. Part of the problem is that every exceptional player that has come through has also been exceptionally mature; it's easy to say that a player is expected to act in a certain manner befitting of such a status.

There's a 1st overall pick every year, but only 5 players have ever been granted exceptional status. People thus place higher expectations on such players due to the prestige.

Sean Day is just a normal kid, but he's also been pigeonholed into a role that he wasn't really ready for. He's not a savior. He's not the next big thing. But when you're one of 5 players to be drafted as a 15-year old and play in the CHL, and yet the only one who wasn't a 1st overall pick, there are going to be critics. To his credit, he's been very upfront about his not matching up to his predecessors and doesn't duck away from the pressure or criticism.

As a player, I don't know whether he processes the game well enough to be a star player. That is another reason why he's getting bad press. He's a physically gifted athlete who's underperforming relative to his perceived talent level. But when you make as many soft mistakes as Day does, it's clear that he's still very much a raw prospect. His transition game should be better than it is; I think "Torts" from the quote above said it best. Day can skate and can pass, but his outlets are pretty mediocre and he's not great at recognizing lanes. He's not a dominant playmaker which a lot of great defensemen need to be in order to be successful, especially in the NHL where sticks are always in lanes. That alone makes me question whether or not he'll be a true big leaguer. Defensively, he's pretty mediocre. Has size but either doesn't want to or doesn't know how to use it either in the physical areas or just basic stickwork and zone coverage. Just overall pretty underwhelming even with excellent tools.

He might still have character issues, but I'm not privy to locker rooms like a scout is so all I have to rely on is what I see on the ice and in front of the media. On the ice, he's a Jekyll and Hyde player, a guy who's too risky for a position that requires reliability. I value hockey sense highly and while I think he's got potential to be a home run, realistically he's much less of a sure bet than a lot of guys in the first round, and his overall potential doesn't scream out to me either.

Depending on where we're at in the draft, I'd take a chance on him mid-to-late 2nd round, he's still got tremendous upside and if I were in charge of a team I'd always have confidence in my player development people (and if I don't, then someone's getting fired) so I would have no qualms about working with Sean if he wants to improve. But I also wouldn't lose any sleep if someone else took him before I got a chance to. He's a high-risk pick and there are other players who I see in that range that I like just as much, if not more so.

But I agree with your initial point, I think Day gets too much **** for things that are out of his control. I might not like him strictly for hockey reasons, but I'm sure there are some people who have issues with his off-the-ice stuff which is along the lines of most kids (for better or worse).

 

[tigervixxxen]

I wonder how much of it is Mississauga is not the best place for him. Seems like he's always clashed with Boyd. Not to give Day a free pass because I believe that he has to work through his issues but with him scouts probably wish they could see what a change of scenery would do for him before they decide if they should draft him.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Everyone says he was given exceptional status when he doesn't deserve it, but quite frankly I believe that to be false. The kid showed the ability to play in the league , exceptional status doesn't guarantee they'll be an NHL superstar, it only means they have the ability to play in the CHL as a 15 year old. He took advantage of his opportunity, just like everyone else would have. It isn't his fault he was granted it, he applied and received it. Don't harp on the kid for showing that ability.

I think the question goes back to what players should be given exceptional status. If "ability to play in the league" is the hurdle that has to be crossed, then I think that there are probably multiple kids each year who, in a general sense, could survive the OHL a year early.

To me, ability to play in the league shouldn't be enough for HC to award ES...there should be every indication that the player will thrive in it. That isn't the case with Day and, quite frankly, it wasn't the case at the time he was award it.

Moreover, there seemed to be somewhat of a parental 'power play' involved at the time - some suggestion that if Day didn't get ES he wouldn't come to the OHL at all and would explore options in getting US citizenship.

Reading the article that was linked to a few posted above, I just shook my head at the part that said he was at the low end of emotional maturity for a player seeking ES. That right there should have ended things.

In any event, I agree with your greater point that Day himself shouldn't be faulted for the fact that he received exceptional status...and I think it's an unfair burden to place on him...all the criticism for arguably unwarranted ES or not playing up to the standards of previous ES players.

If nothing else, hopefully this is a cautionary tale for other parents who believe that their little darling should go off to major junior early...not to mention to Hockey Canada who, in my mind, is highly complicit in all this.

I wonder how much of it is Mississauga is not the best place for him. Seems like he's always clashed with Boyd. Not to give Day a free pass because I believe that he has to work through his issues but with him scouts probably wish they could see what a change of scenery would do for him before they decide if they should draft him.

I think that probably has something to do with it, at least to an extent. Part of this lands squarely on Day's own feet (the conditioning issues, specifically). But there have been problems in that organization - and it was well known over the summer he was hoping to get traded.

A question that comes to mind is who bears the most responsibility for his poor development over the last three seasons. He hasn't progressed all that much. While I know the issues of skill vs poor hockey IQ have been out there for a while, you also have to circle back to the coaching on that one, too.

I really hope things work out for him. He's 17 years old and this has obviously turned into an upsetting - maybe to the point of traumatic - experience for him. It doesn't seem like he's a bad person or anything. it's really unfortunate he's going through all of this, especially at his age.

 

[Dodospice]

I think the question goes back to what players should be given exceptional status. If "ability to play in the league" is the hurdle that has to be crossed, then I think that there are probably multiple kids each year who, in a general sense, could survive the OHL a year early.

To me, ability to play in the league shouldn't be enough for HC to award ES...there should be every indication that the player will thrive in it. That isn't the case with Day and, quite frankly, it wasn't the case at the time he was award it.

Moreover, there seemed to be somewhat of a parental 'power play' involved at the time - some suggestion that if Day didn't get ES he wouldn't come to the OHL at all and would explore options in getting US citizenship.

Reading the article that was linked to a few posted above, I just shook my head at the part that said he was at the low end of emotional maturity for a player seeking ES. That right there should have ended things.

In any event, I agree with your greater point that Day himself shouldn't be faulted for the fact that he received exceptional status...and I think it's an unfair burden to place on him...all the criticism for arguably unwarranted ES or not playing up to the standards of previous ES players.

If nothing else, hopefully this is a cautionary tale for other parents who believe that their little darling should go off to major junior early...not to mention to Hockey Canada who, in my mind, is highly complicit in all this.

To me, to be an ES player, you should be able to thrive in the league... Day along with Veleno in my opinion should never have received this status. Day is proving that to be the case, Veleno still has time..

If you don't have a high maturity level, than you should never receive the status. That is a big issue with this in my opinion, if they didn't consider him to be mature enough.

It does however make me wonder, how would Day be viewed if he didn't receive exceptional status? Surely it wouldn't be the same as it is now, but is he looked at as a potential first round pick, who has a lot of upside or more of a mid-round project that a team takes a shot on?

The EP status is probably both hurting and helping him.. people still hold him in high regard because of what he once was deemed. But at the same time they're labelling him as a bust at 17 years old because of that same status.

 

[LV*]

I wonder how much of it is Mississauga is not the best place for him. Seems like he's always clashed with Boyd. Not to give Day a free pass because I believe that he has to work through his issues but with him scouts probably wish they could see what a change of scenery would do for him before they decide if they should draft him.

Leafs will take him in the 3rd and he will be traded to the Knights next season.

I hope.