LD Sean Day (2016, 81st, NYR) II
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You might want to check your facts before you rewrite history. Stralman was drafted for his smooth and above average skating.
any chance he slips to round 3?
I seem to remember this kid being a potential top 5 pick at one point... unless i'm losin it.
I seem to remember this kid being a potential top 5 pick at one point... unless i'm losin it.
Pretty sure people compared him to Bobby Orr, or a bigger Niedermayer when he got exceptional status. Just shows how hard it is to evaluate defenders that are still in Bantem. He could easily slip to the 3rd, a lot of what will determine his draft status the average fan isn't going to know about. He is a guy they will be doing extensive background checks on, and see how he shows up to the combine and interviews. If he shows up out of shape like he did to the Hilinka it may kill his draft stock and have a Nick Ebert like fall.
The Thin White Duke
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I mean if he had average development from the point he got exceptional status he'd be a top 10 pick right now. It's like he peaked at 15 and stagnated from there with his off-ice issues.
Jets would be one of the teams I'd think are least likely to draft him, they seem to place a high-emphasis on character. If I was betting on it, I'd put my money on the Isles taking him (see Ho-Sang, Kabanov, Cizikis, Pilon etc). They don't seem afraid of that gamble, all those guys got flagged for character concerns, sometimes it works out (Cizikis), sometimes it doesn't (Pilon and Kabanov).
JetsFan815
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I don't know what Sean Day did to Leafs93 but it seems like he will not rest until he has convinced everyone how terrible Day is and doesn't any redeeming qualities 
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I don't know what Sean Day did to Leafs93 but it seems like he will not rest until he has convinced everyone how terrible Day is and doesn't any redeeming qualities
I think he's looking to steal Day in round 4.
This kid has had a tough go with very high expectations and family issues. I think he needs a break and coming to an exciting young team that desperately needs a LHD quality prospect. He can have the time he needs to develop.
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Hasn't done anything to me, but so many of the people who want Day either haven't watched him and are going off his reputation as a 15 year old. He's barely progressed in 3 years. I don't want the Leafs to take Day, knowing what I know about his work ethic and commitment to the game. But my opinion has no barring, and to think I bash him as a prospect because I want him in the 4th is pretty faulty logic. Flat out, his only good skill is his skating, and he didn't even dominate the on-ice combine at the top prospects game, which is dominated by elite skating players.I don't know what Sean Day did to Leafs93 but it seems like he will not rest until he has convinced everyone how terrible Day is and doesn't any redeeming qualities
Edit: And I'd love to see him grow-up and prove me wrong, I just don't think it will happen. Feel he's more likely to join the John McFarlands, Kyle Beach's and Kirill Kabanov's of the world, than somehow turn from a low-iq player, with questionable dedication to the game into a competent NHL player.
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Have you seen him play in the OHL this season? in any season? People who haven't seen him much if at all seem to have a high level of optimism that is based solely on looking at his size and knowing he's a great skater. The current question marks are one's that have been raised even when he was being considered for exceptional status. Most of those question marks haven't improved any in 3 years.
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The irony of this post. He was an extremely early bloomer that piqued at 14. Why do you think he got ES? Because he was an absolute man-child that was a terrific skater. He was so much more developed than his peers that he was able to simply skate his way out of trouble. Once he got to the OHL his hockey IQ was badly exposed.
His inability to process the game will keep him out of the NHL. As others have pointed out, you can't teach hockey IQ. You either have the spatial awareness and ability to read and react intelligently or you don't.
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Yeah, you can really tell the guys who have seen him with regularity versus the guys with unrealistic expectations in this thread.
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But what do you gain be repeatedly bashing an 18 year old, even questioning his character and him as a person (over and over) for 3 pages when there is barely anyone pumping his tires? It seems unnecessarily personal and mean spirited for no reason. It's not like he is an NHL player making millions
Its stating an opinion on the situation. I never questioned him as a person outside of his conduct involving hockey. Full disclosure I know people who work for the Steelheads, and they are pretty down on the kid, his attitude and how he goes about things. I hope for his sake he figures it out. But, everything I've said has happened. He showed up to Hilinka 20 to 30 pounds overweight, the work ethic questions and his attitude problems existed prior to the "family issues", he did get suspended by the team for just randomly leaving the bench in a game because he wasn't happy with being benched and has been purposely difficult with the coaching staff and management trying to force a trade to the Knights. None, of what I've said has been attacking him in anything outside of a hockey context.
How he shows up to the combine will have a lot to how he's perceived, he will have a lot of tough questions to answer. Maybe a team falls in love with him, but its more likely he has already been taken off a lot of teams draft boards, which has been picked up by the national media (pretty sure Button wrote it up in the fall).
Edit: And in regards to "inside info" this is probably the only case I can actually claim to have some, and granted Steelheads are somewhat dysfunctional, that doesn't help the situation.
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Him showing up out of shape to Hilinka is absolutely documented, and you'll notice he "missed" 3 games in December. Him wanting to go to the Knights or be traded is also well known around OHL circles.
Edit: And here's an article that touches on him clashing with coaches, and being a "healthy scratch"
http://hockeynow.ca/major-junior/steelheads-slipping-without-their-young-guns
Here's another one that touches on it
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/j...-nhl-scouts-he-s-the-real-deal-142619074.html
Here's a quote on it
Here's another two
So while things aren't outright stated, most of what I said is supportable, by published articles. But keep on saying its heresay.
Edit: And here's an article that touches on him clashing with coaches, and being a "healthy scratch"
http://hockeynow.ca/major-junior/steelheads-slipping-without-their-young-guns
Here's another one that touches on it
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/j...-nhl-scouts-he-s-the-real-deal-142619074.html
Here's a quote on it
Here's another two
So while things aren't outright stated, most of what I said is supportable, by published articles. But keep on saying its heresay.
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You wrote initially like you where in the "know"
which by your reply just confirms you know nothing and you are passing articles as your info
all this can be written about the majority of junior players. The only reason there is a spotlight and this is a story is because of the "exceptional status" tag
kid is not guilty of anything its all on HC with their exc. status bull, until McD finally made them realise the reality
as for Day, he garners the constant critique for no other reason
he will go first or early second and he will make many GM's who passed on him regret it
which by your reply just confirms you know nothing and you are passing articles as your info
all this can be written about the majority of junior players. The only reason there is a spotlight and this is a story is because of the "exceptional status" tag
kid is not guilty of anything its all on HC with their exc. status bull, until McD finally made them realise the reality
as for Day, he garners the constant critique for no other reason
he will go first or early second and he will make many GM's who passed on him regret it
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HC doesn't randomly select players for exceptional status. Day and his parents decided to apply for it. HC probably shouldn't have given it to him; however, Day and his parents were active participants in it.
I don't see how you can say people critique him for no reason.
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I heard most of this first hand, but you first say I'm lying and its heresay, then when I find sources that back what I said, you say I didn't know anything. Choose to believe whatever, I know what I know about the situation. Mississauga is my local OHL team, and you hear things through the grapevine. And, no this can't be written about a bunch of jr players, you don't hear of many kids with that level of talent getting healthy scratched for leaving the bench or not attending practices, and I don't know of one other player who showed up to the Hilinka camp 20 to 30 pounds overweight. You seem to think higher of Day than almost every scouting service, and its not common, the closest comparable is Ho-Sang, who while difficult, tended to at least produce on the ice.
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LastWordArmy
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Boom or Bust, Sean Day
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/05/26/sean-day-scouting-report-2016-nhl-draft-56/
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/05/26/sean-day-scouting-report-2016-nhl-draft-56/
UsernameWasTaken
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Doesn't sound like he went full out at the combine
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/10-takeaways-2016-nhl-scouting-combine/
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/10-takeaways-2016-nhl-scouting-combine/
Zaddy
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Not surprised. He just doesn't seem to have the passion for hockey. It seemed like he was just playing because his brother was playing and not because he himself enjoyed it. I think the whole exceptional status thing and being under the microscope and with him being underwhelming and getting a lot of criticism/harsh words because of that probably also didn't help. Easy to lose what little passion you had in a situation like that. As I've said before I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't get picked until the last picks in the 7th round or possibly even go undrafted.
