Wheatkings could be a memorial cup contender with the additions of Pilon, Nolan Patrick, Kale Clague, Tanner Kaspick and (potentially) Colt Conrad within the next year.
Wow...
Wow...
LD Ryan Pilon - Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (2015, 147th, NYI) -early retirement
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OttMorrow
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D, Rich Pilon, Brandon Wheat Kings (2015 Draft Eligible)
Not sure if there is a thread for this guy yet? I like his scouting report and his 18 points through the first 16 games. Never watched him. Any feedback on the guy would be much appreciated.
Ryan Pilon...not Rich.
Sorry. Hopefully a mod can change that.
Not sure if there is a thread for this guy yet? I like his scouting report and his 18 points through the first 16 games. Never watched him. Any feedback on the guy would be much appreciated.
Ryan Pilon...not Rich.
Sorry. Hopefully a mod can change that.
Mike Mike Caron
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landy92mack29
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Most underrated prospect in the draft imo(39 pts in 44 game)
Quick release, great skater and good vision. Amazing first passes to get out of his zone. Listed at 6'2 212
Quick release, great skater and good vision. Amazing first passes to get out of his zone. Listed at 6'2 212
Vesa Awesaka
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R S
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I swear every 2nd post of yours I read is about Pilon and how underrated he is.
landy92mack29
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funny i actually think the opposite, i think hes overrated just because of his point total
R S
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Me too.
His points/size combination point to future success based on past drafts but there are just other things about his game that I have seen over the last couple of years which I don't like.
He lacks intensity in his game both defensively and physically.
Unless he picks that up, I don't see him being a future NHL player.
R S
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Ends the season as my 12th best WHL prospect for the 2015 NHL Draft: http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/2015/05/final-whl-rankings-2015-nhl-draft.html
#12 Ryan Pilon
Team: Brandon Wheat Kings
Position: D
Shoots: L
Height: 6’2
Weight: 206
GP: 68
Goals: 11
Assists: 41
Points: 52
Pts/Gm: 0.76
PIM: 40
Player Analysis: Ryan Pilon is a big offensive blueliner for the Brandon Wheat Kings…is quite a strong skater for his size…while his footwork defensively can be a tad sluggish at times, it’s really the only fundamental knock I have on his skating…possesses good power in his edges and uses them to generate good speed when he really bends his knees and drives hard…strong c-cuts in his backwards skating allow for good acceleration against a rush…effort to really drive and accelerate around the ice isn’t always consistent in his game and leads to him getting outskated the odd time…his overall mobility, mixed with his reach, gives him a good starting base to work with defensively…biggest strength overall is his ability to see the ice and pass the puck…is arguably the best outlet passer from the WHL in this draft class…can thread the needle on outlets…stretches the ice with long and powerful feeds down past the red line…can take something off his outlets when necessary…can get creative on his outlets when it comes to using the walls to find open teammates…plays with a high level of poise against a forecheck…is comfortable carrying the puck if no passing lane is open…uses his long reach to aid in his puck protection while on the rush…is comfortable being the carry-man through the neutral zone on the powerplay and makes good puck placement decisions in that situation…despite his ability to do it now, I don’t think he will be a guy that consistently leads the rush at even-strength at the next level, rather being more of a complimentary player in that sense…is smart when it comes to joining the rush and pinching during the cycle…is a big threat to leak into the slot during the cycle, receive a puck and get a grade-A scoring chance…owns a hard wrister which he can get on net with regularity…has a good release on his snapshot with good accuracy…slapshot is good but not at the top of this class…solid footwork at the offensive blueline helps him keep pucks in and also allows him to get open for chances to shoot…has strong but soft hands in puck receiving…seems to really be the full package on the offensive side of the puck…on the defensive side of the puck I feel like he lacks some intensity in his style…allows his partner to do a lot of the puck retrieval and could do a better job hustling back into his own end…owns fairly good positioning with both his body and stick but isn’t an abrasive defender…hardly ever initiates contact…saw him live 8 times this year and I feel like I maybe saw him throw 8 hits total, although his intensity did definitely go up a notch come playoffs…when he does initiate contact he has the strength and size to do damage…not sure I saw him play at more than 80% effort all regular season, noting that it did come up a bit during playoffs…often times it looks more like he’s out for a skate with some buddies on a Sunday afternoon rather than playing a WHL game, which has obviously been a red flag for me all season long…could be stronger on his stick in battles…could be tougher in front of his own net to help his goalie with sight lines and in clearing rebounds…makes smart plays in all zones but will need to up his intensity level to succeed at the next level, which is clearly my main knock on his game…seems like he’s a small defenceman trapped in a big defenceman’s body…while being a main guy on the powerplay his appearances on the penalty kill didn’t seem to be overly regular in all of my live viewings…spent the vast majority of the season playing the right side (his off-side) alongside Ivan Provorov on Brandon’s top defensive pairing…as far as production goes, it took a 20% drop when comparing the first half of his season to his second…was 2nd among first-year draft-eligible WHL defencemen in points, points-per-game and even-strength points-per-game (0.46)…was 3rd among all first-year draft-eligible WHL blueliners in goals and T-3rd in primary assists (17)…either scored or assisted on 16.2% of all Wheat King goals during the regular season, the 6th highest such mark of all first-year draft-eligible WHL defencemen…was the 3rd overall selection by the Lethbridge Hurricanes in the 2011 WHL Bantam Draft…was dealt to the Brandon Wheat Kings after asking the Hurricanes for a trade during the 2013-14 season…is the nephew of former NHL defender Rich Pilon…is a late-1996 born skater…overall I think he projects as a legit top 3 or 4 defender at the NHL level if he reaches his full potential…I definitely see him as being a top 25 overall talent in this draft based strictly on his frame and skill level combination, with the mentioned red flags lowering him significantly in these rankings…at the end of the day I think he’ll come off the board somewhere in the middle of the 2nd round, while I personally rank him more as an early 3rd round type of guy…
#12 Ryan Pilon
Team: Brandon Wheat Kings
Position: D
Shoots: L
Height: 6’2
Weight: 206
GP: 68
Goals: 11
Assists: 41
Points: 52
Pts/Gm: 0.76
PIM: 40
Player Analysis: Ryan Pilon is a big offensive blueliner for the Brandon Wheat Kings…is quite a strong skater for his size…while his footwork defensively can be a tad sluggish at times, it’s really the only fundamental knock I have on his skating…possesses good power in his edges and uses them to generate good speed when he really bends his knees and drives hard…strong c-cuts in his backwards skating allow for good acceleration against a rush…effort to really drive and accelerate around the ice isn’t always consistent in his game and leads to him getting outskated the odd time…his overall mobility, mixed with his reach, gives him a good starting base to work with defensively…biggest strength overall is his ability to see the ice and pass the puck…is arguably the best outlet passer from the WHL in this draft class…can thread the needle on outlets…stretches the ice with long and powerful feeds down past the red line…can take something off his outlets when necessary…can get creative on his outlets when it comes to using the walls to find open teammates…plays with a high level of poise against a forecheck…is comfortable carrying the puck if no passing lane is open…uses his long reach to aid in his puck protection while on the rush…is comfortable being the carry-man through the neutral zone on the powerplay and makes good puck placement decisions in that situation…despite his ability to do it now, I don’t think he will be a guy that consistently leads the rush at even-strength at the next level, rather being more of a complimentary player in that sense…is smart when it comes to joining the rush and pinching during the cycle…is a big threat to leak into the slot during the cycle, receive a puck and get a grade-A scoring chance…owns a hard wrister which he can get on net with regularity…has a good release on his snapshot with good accuracy…slapshot is good but not at the top of this class…solid footwork at the offensive blueline helps him keep pucks in and also allows him to get open for chances to shoot…has strong but soft hands in puck receiving…seems to really be the full package on the offensive side of the puck…on the defensive side of the puck I feel like he lacks some intensity in his style…allows his partner to do a lot of the puck retrieval and could do a better job hustling back into his own end…owns fairly good positioning with both his body and stick but isn’t an abrasive defender…hardly ever initiates contact…saw him live 8 times this year and I feel like I maybe saw him throw 8 hits total, although his intensity did definitely go up a notch come playoffs…when he does initiate contact he has the strength and size to do damage…not sure I saw him play at more than 80% effort all regular season, noting that it did come up a bit during playoffs…often times it looks more like he’s out for a skate with some buddies on a Sunday afternoon rather than playing a WHL game, which has obviously been a red flag for me all season long…could be stronger on his stick in battles…could be tougher in front of his own net to help his goalie with sight lines and in clearing rebounds…makes smart plays in all zones but will need to up his intensity level to succeed at the next level, which is clearly my main knock on his game…seems like he’s a small defenceman trapped in a big defenceman’s body…while being a main guy on the powerplay his appearances on the penalty kill didn’t seem to be overly regular in all of my live viewings…spent the vast majority of the season playing the right side (his off-side) alongside Ivan Provorov on Brandon’s top defensive pairing…as far as production goes, it took a 20% drop when comparing the first half of his season to his second…was 2nd among first-year draft-eligible WHL defencemen in points, points-per-game and even-strength points-per-game (0.46)…was 3rd among all first-year draft-eligible WHL blueliners in goals and T-3rd in primary assists (17)…either scored or assisted on 16.2% of all Wheat King goals during the regular season, the 6th highest such mark of all first-year draft-eligible WHL defencemen…was the 3rd overall selection by the Lethbridge Hurricanes in the 2011 WHL Bantam Draft…was dealt to the Brandon Wheat Kings after asking the Hurricanes for a trade during the 2013-14 season…is the nephew of former NHL defender Rich Pilon…is a late-1996 born skater…overall I think he projects as a legit top 3 or 4 defender at the NHL level if he reaches his full potential…I definitely see him as being a top 25 overall talent in this draft based strictly on his frame and skill level combination, with the mentioned red flags lowering him significantly in these rankings…at the end of the day I think he’ll come off the board somewhere in the middle of the 2nd round, while I personally rank him more as an early 3rd round type of guy…
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Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is.
Why has Pilon fallen so far?
Some had him as a solid 2nd round pick, now he's taken late 5th round.
Some had him as a solid 2nd round pick, now he's taken late 5th round.
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SmellOfVictory
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Seems to have happened to a lot of players. The draft, after the first round, has been willy-nilly compared to the predraft rankings.
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Ole Gil
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"Granted, the Brandon defenceman didn’t have a lot of prep time after the Wheat Kings’ elimination in the WHL final, but still, teams would like to see a little more athleticism that Pilon put on display.
Ranked No. 24 among North American skaters by Central Scouting, Pilon was dead last in body fat measurement and dead last in the cumulative measure in the agility tests. In fact, if you looked across the board you were almost guaranteed to find him in the bottom 10 percent, even in power rather than endurance tests.
Again, I suspect that Pilon was giving it the old college try and had to be more banged up than he owned up to. And I also suspect that one bad result snowballed into another—knowing he was having a bad day at the showcase could not have been fun.
A big asterisk attached to this one."
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-combine-5-head-scratching-performances/
Ranked No. 24 among North American skaters by Central Scouting, Pilon was dead last in body fat measurement and dead last in the cumulative measure in the agility tests. In fact, if you looked across the board you were almost guaranteed to find him in the bottom 10 percent, even in power rather than endurance tests.
Again, I suspect that Pilon was giving it the old college try and had to be more banged up than he owned up to. And I also suspect that one bad result snowballed into another—knowing he was having a bad day at the showcase could not have been fun.
A big asterisk attached to this one."
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-combine-5-head-scratching-performances/
