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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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I think that there were a number of defensemen in this year's draft who were quite close so it's really impossible to say who was the best. From my viewings, Juolevi is more of an all round defenseman while Sergachev has the better offence.

Speaking only of Juolevi, he looks to be a very smart player who doesn't take a lot of chances offensively. Probably because he played for a stacked London team where there were lots of offensive players. Another year in London will give him a chance to take on a more offensive role and to be more of a leader. He also needs to fill out his frame. Overall I was impressed with his play in the pre-season. Will be excited to watch him develop in London this year under a great system that has been a hockey factory in turning out well rounded players.
 
King In The North said:
Probably just based on preseason appearances.
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Juolevi has been very impressive during this pre season, so it's difficult to see how Serg can be named better that easily.

I don't think I saw Juolevi made even 1 major mistake this pre season.
 
Kobe Armstrong said:
Sergachev was better last year, and has looked better this year, so... it's a pretty fair assessment

You call him the best defender in the OHL this year, and take exception when someone brings up another player's name? lame
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I'm sure comments like that would be much appreciated in the Sergachev thread every time someone calls him the best D in the draft. I'll make sure to include more than a one-line response and even include McKenzie's poll.
 
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As we have Knights fans here what's the expectation for Juolevi, how much icetime could he be seeing there, who is he expected to play with as of today and are we looking at #1 pp& pk duties for Juolevi?
 
vanwest said:
I think that there were a number of defensemen in this year's draft who were quite close so it's really impossible to say who was the best. From my viewings, Juolevi is more of an all round defenseman while Sergachev has the better offence.

Speaking only of Juolevi, he looks to be a very smart player who doesn't take a lot of chances offensively. Probably because he played for a stacked London team where there were lots of offensive players. Another year in London will give him a chance to take on a more offensive role and to be more of a leader. He also needs to fill out his frame. Overall I was impressed with his play in the pre-season. Will be excited to watch him develop in London this year under a great system that has been a hockey factory in turning out well rounded players.
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Agree on all counts.

Sure hope Juolevi turns into a real player. Canucks need all the help they can get. Is there any way to get the Forsling-Clendening trade revoked, 20 months after the fact?
 
Aside from draft position, I really don't get the point of comparing Serg and Juolevi. They play completely differently and can be majorly impactful in different ways.
 
thepuckmonster said:
Aside from draft position, I really don't get the point of comparing Serg and Juolevi. They play completely differently and can be majorly impactful in different ways.
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I don't get it, either.

Juolevi is great and is worthy of Van's selection of him. His height/frame is great but even prior to the draft it was obvious he would need to gain more strength before being an NHL regular.

This isn't a race - Juolevi will be an NHL player soon enough. He does not need to be shoehorned into the lineup to prove anything.

Re Sergachev - I like him a lot, too. While I think he's extremely skilled I will not sign off of the comments I've seen that he has some ceiling that is wildly better than anything Juolevi has to offer.

imo, 5 years from now, Juolevi will be the superior d-man of the two. we'll have to wait and see.

rt said:
It's stupid to rush prospects. It's smart to take your time with them. Of this, there is no question.
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agreed.
 
UsernameWasTaken said:
I don't get it, either.

Juolevi is great and is worthy of Van's selection of him. His height/frame is great but even prior to the draft it was obvious he would need to gain more strength before being an NHL regular.

This isn't a race - Juolevi will be an NHL player soon enough. He does not need to be shoehorned into the lineup to prove anything.

Re Sergachev - I like him a lot, too. While I think he's extremely skilled I will not sign off of the comments I've seen that he has some ceiling that is wildly better than anything Juolevi has to offer.

imo, 5 years from now, Juolevi will be the superior d-man of the two. we'll have to wait and see.



agreed.
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Exactly. Development is not linear, and it's a marathon, not a sprint. I don't think it's entirely appropriate to have to justify Juolevi vs Serg in a thread about solely the former himself. It's not a pissing contest. I'm happy Montreal fans like their pick -- he has his own thread to talk about how great he is.
 
rt said:
It's stupid to rush prospects. It's smart to take your time with them. Of this, there is no question.
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Especially defensive prospects. At 17-18-19, there aren't many of them that are physically ready for that grind.
 
Volica said:
Especially defensive prospects. At 17-18-19, there aren't many of them that are physically ready for that grind.
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I pointed this out in another thread, but the only D I've seen come up and have a lot of success as an 18 year old in the NHL was Ekblad and he was a bit of a unique case in the fact he already had 3 years of CHL experience due to getting exceptional status. Hanifin looked good last year too, but he also took a fairly unique path as he fast tracked high-school so he had a full NCAA season under his belt.

Most of the other rookies who did well in there D+1 were late-birthdays (Doughty).
 
It's going to be good for him to be back in London. Will be interesting to see what kind of numbers he'll post offensively this year. I assume he is going to be a big part of the Knights offense this year with Dvorak and possibly Tkachuk and Marner gone as well.
 
Zaddy Zads said:
It's going to be good for him to be back in London. Will be interesting to see what kind of numbers he'll post offensively this year. I assume he is going to be a big part of the Knights offense this year with Dvorak and possibly Tkachuk and Marner gone as well.
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Biggest for his production will be if Marner doesn't return, as he probably gets a shot at qbing the powerplay.
 
BB88 said:
As we have Knights fans here what's the expectation for Juolevi, how much icetime could he be seeing there, who is he expected to play with as of today and are we looking at #1 pp& pk duties for Juolevi?
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All the ice time are belong to Juolevi.

Seriously though, he's going to get a lot more touches on the PP without Marner. In the first few games, the Knights have missed Juolevi the most. The PP was anemic without Juolevi to run it.

Who he's going to play with is a pretty big unknown. The Knights have an injury in their OA defenseman Martenet and a full house of young defensemen that will be revolved in and out. If I had to guess, he will be playing with his occasional D-partner from last year, Crawley where he'd play the right side. He could also be paired with Evan Bouchard (2018 draft eligible)
 
Tough tournament for Juolevi, but good opportunity for him to develop some leadership skills
 
Enel said:
Tough tournament for Juolevi, but good opportunity for him to develop some leadership skills
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matsin47 said:
Has not played all that bad, played well defensively and shown that he has very high hockey iq.
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Juolevi will always be somewhat dependent on the forwards infront of him to look good. His best skills are his 4-way mobility, defensive iq, ability to avoid the fore-check and a quick outlet pass. If the forwards can't do anything with those passes, he's not going to look too great. Its why he looks amazing with forwards who are quick in transition (Marner and Puljujarvi) who can take his passes and establish the zone.
 
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