LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

[WetcoastOrca]

Back to London he goes

It's a good move.
He looked decent in camp but needs probably a couple of years to fill out and develop. No need to rush him.

 

[leaflover]

Was hoping he'd get a couple regular season games under his belt but no big deal.
He needs to add strength but definitely going to be a fixture on Vancouvers blueline for a long long time.
Great prospect.

 

[M2Beezy]

Back to London he goes

Needs it

 

[Canucks LB]

Back to London he goes

?? Was not because of bad play, more the opposite, the guy just needs to add strength. He had a great camp

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

At 6'3 180lbs there's no way he could battle witg NHL sized guys, he's got a good sized frame to fill in and all the brains and talent are there. Just a waiting game now. You can't teach smart

 

[93LEAFS]

Should be the best defender in the OHL this year, can't wait to see what he can do with London this year. Hopefully Tkachuk joins him soon.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Should be the best defender in the OHL this year, can't wait to see what he can do with London this year. Hopefully Tkachuk joins him soon.

Not if Sergachev is sent back

 

[93LEAFS]

Not if Sergachev is sent back

No, he'd still be. Maybe keep those comments to the Sergachev thread. Maybe not if Chychrun gets sent back though.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Back to London he goes

As expected ?

 

[Plural]

Juolevi will wreck the OHL this year. I think he's going to take a big step ahead in physical development and end the year being much closer to NHL strength.

 

[stewpac]

No, he'd still be. Maybe keep those comments to the Sergachev thread. Maybe not if Chychrun gets sent back though.

Comparing him to his peers is fair post here. Sergachev was the best last season of the three but it will be interesting to see which one of them will be this year. I suspect juolevi will have competition from bouchard on the power play and he might not get top pp minutes.

 

[93LEAFS]

Comparing him to his peers is fair post here. Sergachev was the best last season of the three but it will be interesting to see which one of them will be this year. I suspect juolevi will have competition from bouchard on the power play and he might not get top pp minutes.

Its fine to compare them, but just hopping in to say Sergachev will be the best, without adding anything to the discussion is just pimping your teams prospect in another thread.

I watched a significant portion of the Knights games last year, my feeling is that if Marner isn't sent back they will ruin the PP through Juolevi. From what I've seen this year, the Knights PP is having trouble setting up (now they did lose basically their entire PP1, granted the only mainstays on that united were Marner, Dvo, and Tkachuk with another forward and 1D rotated in).

I also don't think Sergachev was the best, but compared to Juolevi he was given a bunch of offensive freedom. It seems Hunter gave guys like Mete more freedom to rush up ice. The Knights didn't need Juolevi playing a risky game to get offence, so using him in a very balanced role appeared to be the instructions.

If Sergachev goes back though I expect his counting stats to be quite impressive, him, Vilardi and Brown will be a very strong PP unit, even if they don't get Fischer or Nattinen back.

 

[King In The North]

Looking forward to seeing him next year.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

No, he'd still be. Maybe keep those comments to the Sergachev thread. Maybe not if Chychrun gets sent back though.

Sergachev was better last year, and has looked better this year, so... it's a pretty fair assessment

You call him the best defender in the OHL this year, and take exception when someone brings up another player's name? lame

 

[Hokinaittii]

Sergachev was better last year, and has looked better this year, so... it's a pretty fair assessment

You call him the best defender in the OHL this year, and take exception when someone brings up another player's name? lame

As far as I'm concerned after seeing only couple of games from both prospects this preseason, both haven been just equally good. If you have watched Juolevi play this preseason, you wouldn't have made that comment so easily.

If anything, Juolevi's last game against the Sharks was a great showdown of his skills and at least based on that, Juolevi showed more of his potential in there than Sergachev in those 2 games I was able to watch. But like I said, my viewings of the players are really slim so I might have missed the game where Sergachev stood out the most.

But the prospects surely are still work in progress.

 

[irunthepeg]

Should be the best defender in the OHL this year, can't wait to see what he can do with London this year. Hopefully Tkachuk joins him soon.

Not if Sergachev is sent back

No, he'd still be. Maybe keep those comments to the Sergachev thread. Maybe not if Chychrun gets sent back though.

You brought up the argument that he'd be the best defender in the OHL and KawaYui countered it. His comments are welcomed if you're willing to start a debate about if a player will be the best at his position this year in the OHL...

Both will be exciting prospects to keep up with in the OHL this year. London will definitely be good again this year.

 

[BusQuets]

Sergachev looked pretty bad in his own zone to my eyes especially his gap control and position. Where as Juolevi looked actually pretty polished but lacked strength. I actually think Juolevi will adjust faster as his weaknesses are easy to fix.

This is based on their NHL pre-season. I don't find it surprising that Sergachev looks better in junior leagues with his play style but it doesn't translate to NHL as well.

 

[thomast]

Last year being underager at WJC Juolevi performed in the same level with Werenski and Provorov. Broke up some records being 17 year old defenseman if i remember correctly.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Sergachev was better last year, and has looked better this year, so... it's a pretty fair assessment

You call him the best defender in the OHL this year, and take exception when someone brings up another player's name? lame

yeah. no. Bob Mckenzie said Juolevi was best D in draft. I trust him more than you or a bunch of OHL coaches.

 

[King In The North]

yeah. no. Bob Mckenzie said Juolevi was best D in draft. I trust him more than you or a bunch of OHL coaches.

Uh, I don't know about that.

Could you source Bob's quote?

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Uh, I don't know about that.

Could you source Bob's quote?

http://www.tsn.ca/matthews-goes-wire-to-wire-as-tsn-s-top-prospect-1.511597

Scouts + Bob Mc > OHL coaches vote.

OHL coaches always vote a bunch of people for the awards. Most of those names don't even make the NHL. Their votes are influenced by who they play, their rivals, etc. When they play against London, the coaches focus on Marner and Dvorak in terms of shutting them down.
This year they will notice Juolevi more.

Scouts jobs are to independently assess talent without bias (or less bias than coaches). It's their job to know who's better.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Uh, I don't know about that.

Could you source Bob's quote?

http://www.tsn.ca/matthews-goes-wire-to-wire-as-tsn-s-top-prospect-1.511597

 

[TeddyBare]

Sergachev was better last year, and has looked better this year, so... it's a pretty fair assessment

You call him the best defender in the OHL this year, and take exception when someone brings up another player's name? lame

Ummmmmm how are you making that assessment?

 

[King In The North]

Thanks.

 

[King In The North]

Ummmmmm how are you making that assessment?

Probably just based on preseason appearances.