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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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I'm a leaf fan who dislikes the Cannucks but I just can't say they made a bad pick. I watched the Knights a ton to follow Marner, and this guy has poise and oozes high hockey IQ. He gets the puck and starts skating with it and you feel like something is going to happen. Great transitional D.

I don't think he will be a #1, but he certainly has that upside. I don't think calling him a potential #2 is outrageous, I think saying he isn't is. I hate to say it but you guys got a hell of a good player here.

In 4 years people will look back and change their tunes. I was never sold on Tkachuk. He benefited from his line mates a lot and a lot of his points were secondary. As we even see in the NHL stick someone who can skate and shoot onto a line with two stars and they'll put up points. I'm not saying he won't be good, but he'll be a complimentary piece.

I think you guys got a better player than the first two picks before you actually. Poolparty might top out as a 2nd/3rd line playmaking winger which would still be outstanding, but yeah.

Good pick by you guys.
 
Jim Benning should be critized for his bad trades but his drafting has been decent (aside from Virtanen but he still has time to develop). At the end of the day we had a choice between the #5 and #6 "ranked" players and we chose the defenseman that safely projects to be Hamhuis as his floor. The analytics crowd should be all over this pick because Olli's stats are pretty remarkable (+65 differential etc). He might be a "boring kale and beet root salad" player but he wins you games and will be highly valuable for the future of this franchise. Eat your dam veggies!!

Tkachuk was IMO a by product of Marner, I honestly don't think he will be a franchise #1LW. While he may be a sexier pick and flashy McDonalds Cheesebuger with all the spotlight on him as the "#5" pick I think he will ultimately become a #2 LW on a line with Bennet which is pretty good but at the same time not what the Canucks need for the rebuild.
 
IComeInPeace said:
I understand the bitterness towards Benning, but Juo is a heck of a prospect, and I think a lot of people are going to look silly when they look back at this thread in 3-4 seasons.

I think he's got a legit shot at being the 3rd or 4th best player in this draft when all is said and done, perhaps even higher.
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Silly? The guy is being loved in this thread lol, barely see any negativity.
 
Olli Juolevi said:
Jim Benning should be critized for his bad trades but his drafting has been decent (aside from Virtanen but he still has time to develop). At the end of the day we had a choice between the #5 and #6 "ranked" players and we chose the defenseman that safely projects to be Hamhuis as his floor. The analytics crowd should be all over this pick because Olli's stats are pretty remarkable (+65 differential etc). He might be a "boring kale and beet root salad" player but he wins you games and will be highly valuable for the future of this franchise. Eat your dam veggies!!

Tkachuk was IMO a by product of Marner, I honestly don't think he will be a franchise #1LW. While he may be a sexier pick and flashy McDonalds Cheesebuger with all the spotlight on him as the "#5" pick I think he will ultimately become a #2 LW on a line with Bennet which is pretty good but at the same time not what the Canucks need for the rebuild.
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Of course you would say that. Get off HF and go train, Olli.
 
I tried the search function but came up with nada. It just can't be that no one hasn't ever called him Oil of Ulay, but if it is, we should start like now.
 
Desmond Hume said:
I feel like Canucks fans hate this pick. And other teams fans think it's good.
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I wanted Mathew Tkachuk like everyone else, and a few of us were tuned in about how good Keller is going to be...but I'm happy with our potential stud #1 Defenseman in Juolevi.

If he really is the best hands down and evolves into a OEL for us...we're the winners of this draft far as I;m concerned.
 
Desmond Hume said:
I feel like Canucks fans hate this pick. And other teams fans think it's good.
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It kinda reminds me of Rielly draft for Leafs fans. Most of us (including myself) had such a tunnel vision about picking a forward so badly that we hardly paid much attention to any d in the draft.

Most of us except a handful that didn't have tunnel vision were shell shocked that we passed on Forsberg who was the sexy pick, since Galchenyuk didn't drop down.

I think most Canucks fans were locked in and tunnel vision on Dubois/Tkachuck.

One of the reasons Knights had such success was because of Juolevi and that mobile pmd of Knights. I remember in one of Hunter's post presser's saying that's one of the biggest difference between the Knights of previous years that weren't able to win Mem cup and this years. Their d was able to get the puck to the forwards.

Juolevi really does remind me of Lindholm. I would send him back to London for another year at least. With Marner and Dvorak graduating, Juolevi will have a bigger opportunity to showcase and develop his offensive side a bit more as well.
 
Sonny21 said:
It kinda reminds me of Rielly draft for Leafs fans. Most of us (including myself) had such a tunnel vision about picking a forward so badly that we hardly paid much attention to any d in the draft.

Most of us except a handful that didn't have tunnel vision were shell shocked that we passed on Forsberg who was the sexy pick, since Galchenyuk didn't drop down.

I think most Canucks fans were locked in and tunnel vision on Dubois/Tkachuck.

One of the reasons Knights had such success was because of Juolevi and that mobile pmd of Knights. I remember in one of Hunter's post presser's saying that's one of the biggest difference between the Knights of previous years that weren't able to win Mem cup and this years. Their d was able to get the puck to the forwards.

Juolevi really does remind me of Lindholm. I would send him back to London for another year at least. With Marner and Dvorak graduating, Juolevi will have a bigger opportunity to showcase and develop his offensive side a bit more as well.
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Great post :nod:
 
The more i think the more i like this pick. Great draft job again Benning just next time dont dump off most of the picks please :)
 
Desmond Hume said:
I feel like Canucks fans hate this pick. And other teams fans think it's good.
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it's not that canucks fan hate the pick, it's more the disappointment of getting unlucky and barely missing out of drafting a franchise player after suffering through one of the worst seasons in canucks history...all the while watching canadian rivals toronto, edmonton and winnipeg draft potential stars

i think he'll be a fine player but he's the kind of safe prospect you expect to draft around the 8-10 spot rather than a high upside lottery selection

there's also a few fans (i'm not one of them) that would rather have drafted sergechev as they were pretty interchangable in terms of pre-draft rankings
 
Jack Tripper said:
it's not that canucks fan hate the pick, it's more the disappointment of getting unlucky and barely missing out of drafting a franchise player after suffering through one of the worst seasons in canucks history...all the while watching canadian rivals toronto, edmonton and winnipeg draft potential stars

i think he'll be a fine player but he's the kind of safe prospect you expect to draft around the 8-10 spot rather than a high upside lottery selection

there's also a few fans (i'm not one of them) that would rather have drafted sergechev as they were pretty interchangable in terms of pre-draft rankings
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And Tkachuk is a franchise player?
If anything, he's way more of a complimentary piece than Juolevi.
 
Yeah i think in a few years redraft will be

Matthews
Laine
Juol
Pullji
Tkachuck
Brown
Sergachev
Keller
Jost
Dubois

Canucks robbed it here imo but we will see
 
The disappointment aspect of this thread is pretty funny. It seems a decent amount of fans were really pushing that there was a 4/5 tier in this draft. Funny to also see some of those people back track now. The Puljujarvi slip baffled me, so maybe there was truly a 3/4 tier (I don't see it, I believe Columbus reached, or saw something they really didn't like about Puljujarvi). Its said that Edmonton had Sergachev high if Puljujarvi went, and its also said the Sabres had Nylander at 5, seems that the 4-11 was as jumbled as originally stated.

Benning, just let Juolevi develop slowly and don't rush him like you did Virtanen and McCann last year.
 
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