LD Luke Hughes (2021, 4th, NJD)

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There wasn't much of a leash, UM played a pretty wide open style, but coaches at lower levels are going to maximize their best players, especially ones who are NHL caliber players, the same thing is happening with Brandt Clarke in the OHL, he isn't playing with any structure either. Michigan was pretty wide open under Mel as well and Hughes didn't have nearly as many glaring mistakes as he had this season. Some of the breakdowns were from him taking valid risks, but many others were just poor decisions, plays that had no chance to work and were going to end up with odd man rushes the other way with little or no chance for a positive result for UM. He is going to be presented with those types of decisions at the NHL level, no matter how structured a system is, he is going to have to clean that up, and clean it up quickly because he will get eaten alive in the NHL if he makes some of the decisions he made this year.

As I've said in this thread numerous times, Luke is a massive talent, I think he is even more talented than Quinn, and anyone who has read my posts here for years knows how highly I think of Quinn. But his game sense/hockey IQ is just really below Quinn's, and that is why I think he will be a very good defenseman, an all-star caliber one, but I don't know if he has Norris potential like Quinn does, Quinn just has the game sense that only a couple of other players in the league have.
I don't know if you watched Luke on the USNTDP at all in his draft year, but I thought his decision-making was really, really bad his draft year as well and is what would hold him back in the future if he couldn't improve upon it. If you did happen to catch his games then, have you seen any noticeable improvements since those USNTDP games? I have caught only a small number of Michigan games over the past two years and didn't come away impressed (with improvement in this area), but because of the small sample size, I try not to put too much stock into it.
 
I don't know if you watched Luke on the USNTDP at all in his draft year, but I thought his decision-making was really, really bad his draft year as well and is what would hold him back in the future if he couldn't improve upon it. If you did happen to catch his games then, have you seen any noticeable improvements since those USNTDP games? I have caught only a small number of Michigan games over the past two years and didn't come away impressed (with improvement in this area), but because of the small sample size, I try not to put too much stock into it.

I did not see Hughes play that year, not even on TV, everything was all messed up with Covid and the Big Ten teams did not play the NTDP that year.

My first time seeing Hughes play was at UM.
 
He's got all the tolls to be at least decent defensively. Even if he's below avg, his offense gonna make up for it, just like with most offensive dmen that are star producers. I mean, Dougie Hamilton is terrible on his zone, but his offense + reliable team/d partner makes him a massive positive for the Devils at the end of the day. And Luke has upside to be much better offensively.
 
People doubted Quinn, people doubted Jack, and now they doubt Luke.

You would think some folks would have learned by now not to bet against this family?
I mean just because his brothers are good, you just can't assume he'll be good too. Obviously he's not going to be Jared Staal bad but you can't really assume he'll be good just because his brothers are either.
 
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I mean just because his brothers are good, you just can't assume he'll be good too. Obviously he's not going to be Jared Staal bad but you can't really assume he'll be good just because his brothers are either.
Yeah but we’re not assuming based on no evidence. He’s had two monster NCAA seasons.

His brothers aren’t enough to say he’ll be good, but probably should be enough to give him a little benefit of the doubt when it comes to the NHL transition
 
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I mean just because his brothers are good, you just can't assume he'll be good too. Obviously he's not going to be Jared Staal bad but you can't really assume he'll be good just because his brothers are either.
This is why people think he will become a very good player, not because his brothers(btw both are good examples too). Eye test helps too - his production isn’t results of good partners only.
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I mean just because his brothers are good, you just can't assume he'll be good too. Obviously he's not going to be Jared Staal bad but you can't really assume he'll be good just because his brothers are either.
Jared Staal was never ever in the discussion for being arguably the best drafted player in the world not in the NHL.
 
yeah a game where he is puking his guts out while still trying to play as their season is on the line is a great time to form an opinion on his development.

Also.....

Relax
Was he puking in the WJC games the US got eliminated in the last two years or do you have a different excuse for all of his pizzas?
 
Was he puking in the WJC games the US got eliminated in the last two years or do you have a different excuse for all of his pizzas?
1, its a team game
2. He did extremely well in the WJC outside of the one game.
3. He was the 2nd best Defenseman in that tournament behind Jiricek.
4. You do realise that Hughes was injured during the last WJC game but the coach decided to keep him in?
5. You basing your opinion on him on two bad games is hilarious so thanks for the laugh.
 
I mean just because his brothers are good, you just can't assume he'll be good too. Obviously he's not going to be Jared Staal bad but you can't really assume he'll be good just because his brothers are either.
I mean its not an assumption you just have to watch and know what you are looking at.
 
3. He was the 2nd best Defenseman in that tournament behind Jiricek.
Was he? I remember people were quite disappointed in Hughes in that tournament. Some could say he wasn't even the best defensemen on Team USA.
 
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I will say as a Devils fan the numbers with Luke are eye popping, the times I’ve seen him the talent is also eye popping, but he always leaves me wanting more in particular with regard to poor defense or lackluster defensive effort. Possibly that’s just overreacting to a few bad shifts that stick in one’s memory.

I believe he will be a major contributor at the NHL level regardless and his game is tailor made for what NJ wants to do. Thrilling addition to the team.
 
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I apologize for forgetting where it was posted...maybe Amanda Stein on Twitter...but it was reported that he won't wear L. Hughes on the jerset. Just Hughes. There's the important detail we all wanted and needed lol.
 
I apologize for forgetting where it was posted...maybe Amanda Stein on Twitter...but it was reported that he won't wear L. Hughes on the jerset. Just Hughes. There's the important detail we all wanted and needed lol.
That's the kind of analysis for which the Jersey intern media has become famous.

Can't wait to hear the nuggets Sam Kasan unearths.
 
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Do players burn a full year on ELC when they play an end of year regular season game after their college season ends? If so, why do teams do this?
 
Do players burn a full year on ELC when they play an end of year regular season game after their college season ends? If so, why do teams do this?
They burn a full year on ELC whether they play regular season game or not. Only way to avoid it is to sign a contract later, but there's a risk that player chooses to return to his college team.
 
Do players burn a full year on ELC when they play an end of year regular season game after their college season ends? If so, why do teams do this?
1. Incentive for them to sign
2. I believe there was some analysis that burning an ELC year is actually better in terms of long term salary ramifications as you can get deals on 2nd and third contracts. The thinking: ELC performance on age 19-22 seasons are not as impressive as ELC on age 21-24 season.
 
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