So a guy that just scored 48 points as a dman in the NCAA in his D+1 isn't in discussion in the top 10 of a redraft? Coool beans
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Habs fans still living in fantasy land. There's no way a 185 feet tall player makes it to the NHL in this day and age.
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What % of his time on ice will he have the puck? 10-15%? Less? Guys need to play without the puck for their clubs to win. If Hutson values his play without the puck as he does with it, then he will develop into a really good player. If he doesn’t truly see the importance of playing play without the puck then he’s not going to help his nhl club win.
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Yup. Only seen his highlights, which are all of him with the puck and he looks good. He’s very small though and a D. He will need to value his play without the puck as much (likely more actually) as he does with it to be an nhl player who helps his club win.
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Wheeler’s redraft of 2022, going by his lasted Top 50 drafted prospects, with Slafkovsky graduated:
2022 rank (overall rank in Top 50 in parentheses) he also puts them in tiers
Tier 2 (2-7)
#1 (6) Cooley
Tier 3 (8-29)
#2 (8) Nemec
#3 (9) Jirecek
#4 (13) Gauthier
#5 (14) Wright
#6 (22) Korchinski
#7 (23) Snuggerud
#8 (24) Savoie
#9 (25) Kulich
#10 (26) Mintyukov
#11 (27) Hutson
Tier 4 (30-50)
#12 (30) Kasper
#13 (32) Mateychuk
#14 (40) Ohgren
#15 (43) Dumais
#16 (45) McGroarty
#17 (48) Yurov
#18 (50) Nazar
Honorable Mentions from the 2022 Draft (in alphabetical order out of a total of 77 players)
Owen Beck, C
Lian Bichsel, LHD
Filip Bystedt, C
Seamus Casey, RHD
Jagger Firkus, RW
Nathan Gaucher, C
Conor Geekie, C
David Goyette, C
Isaac Howard, LW
Joakim Kemell, RW
Brad Lambert, C/RW
Jonathan Lekkerimaki, RW
Tristan Luneau, RHD
Filip Mesar, RW
Ivan Miroshnichenko, LW
Ty Nelson, RHD
Noah Östlund, C
Owen Pickering, LHD
So Wheeler nearly has him in the Top 10 (without Slaf included). Granted Wheeler loooves undersized offensive defenseman, so he’s a guy who would re-rank Hutson generously.
Scott Wheeler's top 50 drafted NHL prospects ranking, summer 2023 edition
Where do Adam Fantilli, Logan Cooley, Leo Carlsson and other top drafted NHL prospects rank on Scott Wheeler's list?
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Reminds me of the Johnny Gaudreau hate back in the day. “Too small” “Not heavy enough” “Not an elite skater”. Yet at every level he just kept putting up numbers. Why even bother where he goes in a redraft, its next to irrelevent Only 1 year later
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Who cares about who would be picked where in a redraft. Especially this early. Let see in 5-10 years.
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Don't need to go that far back. That same was being said about Caufield just a few years ago.
Thats literally not my point at all. My point is that all people did was find ways to hate on JG, too small, too this, too that, it'll never work at the next level. And all he did was keep putting up points.Did you know there is a difference between a Forward and a Defenceman?
Hutson has always been "too small" yet he keeps dominating every level he plays at.
Yup, as I mentioned in my post, he's in the discussion.Wheeler’s redraft of 2022, going by his lasted Top 50 drafted prospects, with Slafkovsky graduated:
2022 rank (overall rank in Top 50 in parentheses) he also puts them in tiers
Tier 2 (2-7)
#1 (6) Cooley
Tier 3 (8-29)
#2 (8) Nemec
#3 (9) Jirecek
#4 (13) Gauthier
#5 (14) Wright
#6 (22) Korchinski
#7 (23) Snuggerud
#8 (24) Savoie
#9 (25) Kulich
#10 (26) Mintyukov
#11 (27) Hutson
Tier 4 (30-50)
#12 (30) Kasper
#13 (32) Mateychuk
#14 (40) Ohgren
#15 (43) Dumais
#16 (45) McGroarty
#17 (48) Yurov
#18 (50) Nazar
Honorable Mentions from the 2022 Draft (in alphabetical order out of a total of 77 players)
Owen Beck, C
Lian Bichsel, LHD
Filip Bystedt, C
Seamus Casey, RHD
Jagger Firkus, RW
Nathan Gaucher, C
Conor Geekie, C
David Goyette, C
Isaac Howard, LW
Joakim Kemell, RW
Brad Lambert, C/RW
Jonathan Lekkerimaki, RW
Tristan Luneau, RHD
Filip Mesar, RW
Ivan Miroshnichenko, LW
Ty Nelson, RHD
Noah Östlund, C
Owen Pickering, LHD
So Wheeler nearly has him in the Top 10 (without Slaf included). Granted Wheeler loooves undersized offensive defenseman, so he’s a guy who would re-rank Hutson generously.
Scott Wheeler's top 50 drafted NHL prospects ranking, summer 2023 edition
Where do Adam Fantilli, Logan Cooley, Leo Carlsson and other top drafted NHL prospects rank on Scott Wheeler's list?
and I'm pointing out that comparing a small forward like JG to Hutson who is a Defenseman doesn't make sense at all. A defenseman's job is way more physical then a forward which is a lot harder to do when you are smaller and of lesser weight.
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I know, I was following the conversation. (Just to be clear lol)
I guess I could have posted my response to the poster who claimed he wouldn’t even be close.
I actually think Wheeler is a bit too high on him but the “not even close isn’t true” take was wrong, since re-drafts are subjective, and Wheeler isn’t a Habs poster.
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I don't think anyone is comparing the players. They play different positions and are nothing alike.
They're comparing the comments and dismissals of both players because of their size. That's it.
He’s basically the Bryce Young of NHL prospects. Impeccable college career, award winning as a freshman, ridiculous feel for the game and sizzle reel. Just an almost unprecedented “lightweight” for a high level prospect at his position. I’m not even going to say size because Hutson, like Young, is short but that’s not where the questions stem from. It’s a lightweight structure to his body type.
Like Young there is a lot of piddling arguments over a pound here or inch there. I’d be careful about wanting Hutson to suddenly show up beefier just to appease some idea of size. Sammy Girard was looking like a top pair defenseman early in his NHL career, tried to add some muscle and lost half a step and now is trying to cling to a top four role. I’m more interested in Hutson continuing to refine his skating and his skating strength than the idea that he just needs to get “heftier”. Because that can be a double edged sword - especially for a guy, unlike Girard, who has had to make significant strides in his skating to prove himself as a high level prospect in the first place.
Like Young there is a lot of piddling arguments over a pound here or inch there. I’d be careful about wanting Hutson to suddenly show up beefier just to appease some idea of size. Sammy Girard was looking like a top pair defenseman early in his NHL career, tried to add some muscle and lost half a step and now is trying to cling to a top four role. I’m more interested in Hutson continuing to refine his skating and his skating strength than the idea that he just needs to get “heftier”. Because that can be a double edged sword - especially for a guy, unlike Girard, who has had to make significant strides in his skating to prove himself as a high level prospect in the first place.
You are still missing my point. I'm not comparing JG and Hutson as players. I am comparing the dumb comments and labels placed on them, despite outperforming expectations at every level.
If I wanted to give you a small and slight dman that has carved out a great career for himself I would look at Jared Spurgeon. A player who would definitely go top 10 in a 2008 re-draft.
Spurgeon is a great Dman though I would say that stylistically Hutson and him aren't that close. I think Fox is the best comparison atm.
You can't compare Bryce Young, Bryce never played at a level even close to Hutson.
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Some of you care too much about an extra inch of two.
He's 5'9...if he was 5'10 or 5'11 would you be having the same conversation? His hockey IQ more than makes up for it and should help him make the NHL, how well he performs is to be seen.
He's 5'9...if he was 5'10 or 5'11 would you be having the same conversation? His hockey IQ more than makes up for it and should help him make the NHL, how well he performs is to be seen.
Bryce literally won the award for best collegiate football player and literally went first overall in the NFL draft.
It’s a casual comp from a completely different sport meant to draw some parallels between lightweight and yet effervescent players in their respective athletic fields and how their potential stardom would be unique and potentially ground breaking in how we view size versus skill and IQ at the highest levels of very physical professional sports.
I’m not sure how on earth you go about qualifying “Bryce never played at a level even close to Hutson.”
I do think people overreact over a couple inches. If anything people should be more concerned about the weight.
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