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LD Jakub Zboril (2015, 13th, BOS)

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Boston could have had three of White, Connor, Barzal, Chabot.

Would have been one of the best first round by a team in recent memory.

All four have star potential and almost a lock to at least be core players.
 
Draxler said:
Boston could have had three of White, Connor, Barzal, Chabot.

Would have been one of the best first round by a team in recent memory.

All four have star potential and almost a lock to at least be core players.
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Not a single one if those players is a lock to be a core player. Not even close.
 
nbwingsfan said:
Not a single one if those players is a lock to be a core player. Not even close.
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We will see. The only one i'm iffy on is Barzal, and even then he's got great upside.

They all are great skaters, great hockey IQ, great passers. Those are the tools for star/core players.
 
mymerlincat said:
Can anyone find an example of worse drafting?
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Can you explain a bit more?

Lauzon and Carlo both look like beast D-players, Senyshyn has been one of the better goal scorers, JFK looks like a Bergeron Jr and Gabrielle looks like a bigger Marchand going +ppg so far.

It's the 1st year after the draft, no one knows where Zboril ends up or DeBrusk.
 
Draxler said:
Boston could have had three of White, Connor, Barzal, Chabot.

Would have been one of the best first round by a team in recent memory.

All four have star potential and almost a lock to at least be core players.
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mymerlincat said:
Can anyone find an example of worse drafting?
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Draxler said:
We will see. The only one i'm iffy on is Barzal, and even then he's got great upside.

They all are great skaters, great hockey IQ, great passers. Those are the tools for star/core players.
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Holy crap, y'all realize it hasn't even been eight months since these players were drafted???

And I loathe Boston. But this ridiculous jump-the-gun hyperbole is how you embarrass yourself.
 
7even said:
Holy crap, y'all realize it hasn't even been eight months since these players were drafted???

And I loathe Boston. But this ridiculous jump-the-gun hyperbole is how you embarrass yourself.
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I think the problem is that even at the draft, these Boston picks were looked at as reaches and nothing has happened since the draft to vindicate the Bruins.

In fact, since the draft, both Zboril and DeBrusk have been big disappointments, while only Senyshyn has done better than his draft year.

Barzal, Connor, Chabot, White and several other viable options taken later in the 1st round have improved and gone on to have excellent developmental years in their draft+1 year.

What a potentially brutal 1st round for Boston. JFK, Lauzon and Carlo may not be good enough to swing it in their favour.
 
Zboril was horrific in the game against Cape Breton..and the scary thing was the lack of effort.
 
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Dima Timashov said:
Thomas Chabot is significantly better than Zboril.

Even as a rival of the Senators, Chabot + White was a brilliant draft.
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Chabot is clearly better. Sweeney couldnt have botched his 1st round picks anymore if he was trying..but thats been discussed at great length here.
 
Was never a fan of Zboril. It's way too early to judge but early returns are not looking good. I watched a lot of the Sea Dogs last year and I never understood why most had Zboril ahead of Chabot. For me, Chabot was the better player and looked like he had way higher upside. In fact, I had Zboril ranked 27th which is way lower than pretty much anyone else but I just didn't see anything special in him. Doesn't seem like he has done much to prove me wrong so far, if these reports about him are true.
 
mymerlincat said:
Can anyone find an example of worse drafting?
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Oh boy...half a season of play following the draft, and already we have a verdict?

One thing for certain, development is not linear, and a LOT changes when players turn pro. Some crash and burn in the AHL, while others thrive. Until you see them turn pro, there is a major question mark surrounding most elite prospects.

It's like the year or two of posts about how stupid every team was to not draft Anthony Mantha. Now? he's still a good prospect, but people understand a bit better that perhaps he wasn't sure fire 40 goal scorer at the NHL level.

Those three Bruins, while not having great years, might end up better than a lot of players in the top 20 of this draft, including some of the guys mentioned here. While upside of each can be questioned reasonably, they are a lot safer bets in some ways, and might end up as key character players in addition to contributors.
 
Back to the topic, I don't think too many people had an issue with Zboril. It's not like he was a major reach, and he was rated higher than Chabot on average and by the majority, including central scouting, THN, Mackenzie's rankings etc. Most saw the upside of Chabot, but had him ranked lower (and lower than other defenders too) because of his inconsistency.

By all accounts - fitness test not withstanding - Zboril looked really good in Bruins camp and at the WJC. Less consistent with Saint John this year, but still a horse. I think most people have an issue with him because Chabot has taken such a big step forward this year and they are team mates who are naturally compared often, but this really has very little to do with Zboril, who is a different type of player and has a lot of traits the Bruins will like. Good for Sens in drafting Chabot, to be sure, but I'm not sure this makes Zboril a bad pick at this point.
 
Zaddy Zads said:
Was never a fan of Zboril. It's way too early to judge but early returns are not looking good. I watched a lot of the Sea Dogs last year and I never understood why most had Zboril ahead of Chabot. For me, Chabot was the better player and looked like he had way higher upside. In fact, I had Zboril ranked 27th which is way lower than pretty much anyone else but I just didn't see anything special in him. Doesn't seem like he has done much to prove me wrong so far, if these reports about him are true.
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People were weary of Chabots supposed reliance on Zboril, I remember hearing that the sea dogs coaching staff told Chabot to model his game, his attitude and just about everything off of Zboril, and that he himself lacked confidence.
idk though i wasn't in the dressing room so take what i say with a grain of salt
 
gcostain said:
People were weary of Chabots supposed reliance on Zboril, I remember hearing that the sea dogs coaching staff told Chabot to model his game, his attitude and just about everything off of Zboril, and that he himself lacked confidence.
idk though i wasn't in the dressing room so take what i say with a grain of salt
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Not sure where you heard this, because it's not the case whatsoever.

Zboril was a fine pick (the only one of the Bruins I was ok with). I liked Chabot more, but I still viewed Zboril as a top 15 guy.
 
And let's not forget, Zboril was actually more productive per game than Chabot last season. Given everything else he brings (tougher, more physical), it wasn't a shock to see him ranked higher. But kudos to those who did have Chabot ahead of him, because the eye test did show Chabot had a higher end element that perhaps would set him apart from a lot of other guys once it came together. We're seeing that now I think.
 
FLYguy3911 said:
Listen at 1:30:
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I see, thanks for that.

I'm not sure that's the case in actual on-ice performance, I know they waned him to be more competitive on the ice like Zboril, but they didn't want him mimicking his play. I had access to a lot of info in Saint John last year, so I was surprised to hear that.
 
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