LD Dmitry Simashev - Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, KHL (2023, 6th, ARI)

[Doug Prishpreed]

Seeing him and But both get drafted to the same team was the highlight of the night for me. They're both legit top 10 prospects imo...the only thing that I'd be slightly worried about is that I don't have a say in development for a few years, but Simashev has such a great head on his shoulders that he'll be more than fine.

 

[Chootoi]

And Wheeler at #5 in 2004

I remember Wheeler was a massive reach at the time (ranked in the 30's I believe), but today he has the 3rd highest point total of that entire draft behind only Ovi and Malkin. The real issue looking back is that he bailed on them.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

This team should be going BPA. Horrible pick.

Calm down...Hockey Prospect is a very well regarded scouting organization and they had him at #5. Plenty of others gave him a top 10 grade.

 

[Kshahdoo]

That girl though, is she But's sister? Or his girlfriend?

 

[Caser]

That girl though, is she But's sister? Or his girlfriend?

I think it might be his sister, I've seen their family photos posted somewhere, I think she looks similar to her.

 

[Peasy]

I just can't help but see so many similarities between Simashev and Sanderson in their draft years.

Both late risers. Big, athletic D men that can skate extremely well and can play a more physical game. Offense started to pick up later in the season with growth and potential for much more.

People would do whatever they can to get a player like Sanderson right now. I think theres a good possibility the same ends up with Simashev.

 

[rt]

Top prospects for Arizona Coyotes | NHL.com

Forwards Cooley, Guenther could provide boost this season; Simashev to continue developing in KHL

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[Garl]

Interesting, why this phenomenal "not even close" "second best player" skater couldnt properly make mens team?

 

[Prarievarg]

Interesting, why this phenomenal "not even close" "second best player" skater couldnt properly make mens team?

The thing with prospects is that there's an amount of projection involved. They are not finished products and are all in different stages of their development.

 

[stevo61]

Wouldnt surprise me at all if he was the best defenseman from this draft, part of me expects it. Id be beyond surprised if hes viewed as the 2nd best player from the draft. Its not a Jankowski level of crazy comment but its still an interesting statement to make

 

[FlyguyOX]

Interesting, why this phenomenal "not even close" "second best player" skater couldnt properly make mens team?

Omg this dude is in every thread ffs

 

[rt]

Interesting, why this phenomenal "not even close" "second best player" skater couldnt properly make mens team?

Why would you put not even close in quotes like that? Ahead of the second best player comment? It’s one paragraph. Surely you can read the whole thing?

 

[Sasso09]

Seeing him and But both get drafted to the same team was the highlight of the night for me. They're both legit top 10 prospects imo...the only thing that I'd be slightly worried about is that I don't have a say in development for a few years, but Simashev has such a great head on his shoulders that he'll be more than fine.

Neither are close to top 10 in that draft

 

[Sasso09]

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Forwards Cooley, Guenther could provide boost this season; Simashev to continue developing in KHL

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I can think of at least 20 better big men skaters drafted in the last 10 years.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

I can think of at least 20 better big men skaters drafted in the last 10 years.

That's incredible. Why don't you name them for us?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Neither are close to top 10 in that draft

Yes they are - the draft was only a few weeks ago and barely anyone has played a single game since then.

Just a summertime troll, trying to make a living.

 

[ThorNton Apologist]

Neither are close to top 10 in that draft

Hockey prospect had them both ranked in the top 10. Even going as far to say him and But were the two most exciting prospects to watch

 

[rt]

Neither are close to top 10 in that draft

Do you watch a lot of MHL games, Sass?

 

[rt]

I can think of at least 20 better big men skaters drafted in the last 10 years.

Maybe the guy who was the top scout for the St Louis Blues for a decade just watches different prospects than you do. Or maybe he got confused and forgot to run it by his top scout, who was the head amateur scout/scouting director in Tampa for a dozen years? Or maybe they were both confused and forgot to ask the guy who was director of amateur scouting for the avalanche for twelve years? All of them were at the table and on the stage. They do work in the same office. But these kinds of miscommunications do happen. You’re probably right.

 

[Guadana]

I watched a lot of mhl/khl games, and enough of games of other prospects and I would say, may be I would not drafted But in top 10, but I would definitely drafted Simashev in top 10, may be even in top 5, not over Michkov of course, but both in top five.
I like Sanderson comparison, he was the best defensive prospect in the long time. And Simashev is looking like the only one who has potential to be your perfect team two way defenseman with minimum mistakes and maximum upside on the hardest minutes, even if he isn’t top-5/8 defensive point producer in the league.

 

[Boonk]

Interesting, why this phenomenal "not even close" "second best player" skater couldnt properly make mens team?

Interesting, you still dont seem to understand just how difficult fully fledged pro hockey is for teenagers huh?

 

[Garl]

Interesting, you still dont seem to understand just how difficult fully fledged pro hockey is for teenagers huh?

It is. But for the best skater for a big man "not even close" this should be a doable task. Victor Hedman who is a much worse skater than Simashev played 2 full seasons of pro hockey before the draft.
Heck Vyacheslav Voynov who is a horrible skater compared to Simashev played a significant role in KHL at the same age. And he is not even big

 

[Boonk]

It is. But for the best skater for a big man "not even close" this should be a doable task. Victor Hedman who is a much worse skater than Simashev played 2 full seasons of pro hockey before the draft.
Heck Vyacheslav Voynov who is a horrible skater compared to Simashev played a significant role in KHL at the same age. And he is not even big

Oh f***ing well Garl, lets deem him a bust and a failure right away then. Different prospects develop differently at different levels. Its almost as if some kids have a harder time transitioning to pro hockey before theyre 20! Who wouldve thought such a thing huh?

 

[Garl]

Oh f***ing well Garl, lets deem him a bust and a failure right away then. Different prospects develop differently at different levels. Its almost as if some kids have a harder time transitioning to pro hockey before theyre 20! Who wouldve thought such a thing huh?

I donät call him a bust. But the "not even close" comment was rather silly

 

[rt]

It is. But for the best skater for a big man "not even close" this should be a doable task. Victor Hedman who is a much worse skater than Simashev played 2 full seasons of pro hockey before the draft.
Heck Vyacheslav Voynov who is a horrible skater compared to Simashev played a significant role in KHL at the same age. And he is not even big

You aren’t making sense. None of what you are saying has anything to do with skating.

If you want to switch subjects randomly, that’s fine.

As for KHL/MHL Loko was a special team. They were by far the top team in the MHL standings, having lost only 5 games all season. They were excellent in the playoffs until But got sick and had to sit out, and they lost. Lokomotiv in the KHL was behind only CSKA and SKA among all KHL teams in the standings.

But and Simashev were the two best players on the best MHL team but their KHL team was also a powerhouse and wasn’t playing teenagers regularly.