LD Derrick Pouliot (2012, 8th overall, Pittsburgh)

[Dipsy Doodle]

Pouliot can win all the WHL defensemen of the year titles, but I would easily take Morrissey on my team. Pouliot is going to be murdered alive defensively against 6'3" players.

Why do you believe the size of the opposition is going to be an issue for Pouliot at the next level but not for Morrissey?

 

[penguins2946*]

Pouliot can win all the WHL defensemen of the year titles, but I would easily take Morrissey on my team. Pouliot is going to be murdered alive defensively against 6'3" players.

Pouliot- 6'0", 203 lbs
Morrisey- 6'0", 185 lbs

How will Pouliot be "murdered alive" while Morrisey will excel?

 

[S E P H]

Why do you believe the size of the opposition is going to be an issue for Pouliot at the next level but not for Morrissey?

Morrissey is extremely smart with the puck at both ends of the ice, he's a bit like Lidstrom over oversmarting his opponent physically with good stick work. Pouliot is extremely smart at finding the open ice for rushes and vision for passing offensively. He has improved defensively, but not enough for me to be happy, he's still a liability out there (and will get destroyed by more physical challenging players). To conclude, Morrissey has smarts at both ends of the rink while Pouliot has smarts at only the offensive side.

Pouliot- 6'0", 203 lbs
Morrisey- 6'0", 185 lbs

How will Pouliot be "murdered alive" while Morrisey will excel?

Clearly this type of post shows you haven't watched him. Here is an example....Ryan Stoa was 2nd round pick of the Colorado Avalanche. Ryan Stoa was listed as 6'3" and 213 lbs, sadly he plays like he's 5'9 and 170 lbs. I still stand by that Morrissey will be the better overall defensemen in the NHL (something I like personally when watching defensemen).

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Morrissey is extremely smart with the puck at both ends of the ice, he's a bit like Lidstrom over oversmarting his opponent physically with good stick work. Pouliot is extremely smart at finding the open ice for rushes and vision for passing offensively. He has improved defensively, but not enough for me to be happy, he's still a liability out there (and will get destroyed by more physical challenging players). To conclude, Morrissey has smarts at both ends of the rink while Pouliot has smarts at only the offensive side.

I agree that he has trouble with awareness/urgency in his own end. He often misjudges the speed of forecheckers or loses track of them completely and consequently gives up the puck. He needs to get stronger too, of course.

I just don't really see what size has to do with it. He's as susceptible to a speedy 5'11" guy as a 6'3" bruiser, IMO. I don't see him getting rocked out there so much as getting burned by a lax approach in his own end.

 

[Roof Daddy]

So who are Pens rooting for more in the WHL finals, Pouliot or Jarry? Nice problem to have.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

So who are Pens rooting for more in the WHL finals, Pouliot or Jarry? Nice problem to have.

Portland for me. Been following them since we drafted Morrow, and Pouliot's considered the higher-end prospect.

Ideally Portland would win with Pouliot leading the series in points despite an amazing performance from Jarry, haha.

 

[Scarbarian*]

This guy is so overrated just like many previous Pens prospects.

Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players(i am talking about valuable top 6 forward or top 4 d-man).

I remember the days when they use to call Tangradi and Dupuis untouchables after few good games or WJC and now after finally watching them in live action, they have tone down a lot on Dupuis. Pouliot is in the same boat in terms of hype and he is nothing home to write about defensively.

I had say if he gets lucky, he might one day become an average top 4 d-man.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

This guy is so overrated just like many previous Pens prospects.

Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players(i am talking about valuable top 6 forward or top 4 d-man).

I remember the days when they use to call Tangradi and Dupuis untouchables after few good games or WJC and now after finally watching them in live action, they have tone down a lot on Dupuis. Pouliot is in the same boat in terms of hype and he is nothing home to write about defensively.

I had say if he gets lucky, he might one day become an average top 4 d-man.

Nobody has ever called Dupuis an untouchable, and neither Tangradi nor Dupuis were Pens property when they were in the WJCs.

I'd question if English was your first language, but it seems the quality of expression matches quality of content.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

This guy is so overrated just like many previous Pens prospects.

Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players(i am talking about valuable top 6 forward or top 4 d-man).

I remember the days when they use to call Tangradi and Dupuis untouchables after few good games or WJC and now after finally watching them in live action, they have tone down a lot on Dupuis. Pouliot is in the same boat in terms of hype and he is nothing home to write about defensively.

I had say if he gets lucky, he might one day become an average top 4 d-man.

I have to call ******** on this one. Dupuis was never a Pens prospect and no one sure as hell called him untouchable. The guy was a 4th liner on our team the 2nd season he was here.

People had hope for Tangradi but I can never remember anyone saying he was untouchable.

People post some crazy **** on here sometimes...

 

[Jtown]

pouliot might struggle in his own end but the pens don't mind that in their dmen. He is pretty stout for someone his size. Could be a dan boyle without as good of a shot.

 

[SidGenoMario]

Even though Pens fans may love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players, Pouliot is nowhere close to Dupuis as a prospect. Dupuis had the greatest performance of any 28 year old ever at the World Juniors.

 

[Sweech]

I'm guessing he meant Despres instead of Dupuis.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Well in that case, Despres is still a very good prospect who's just being jerked around my management for reasons unbeknownst to Pens fans.

But, this is a Pouliot thread, and word is the Pens are still really high on him, so next season could be interesting.

 

[billybudd]

This guy is so overrated just like many previous Pens prospects.

Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players(i am talking about valuable top 6 forward or top 4 d-man).

I remember the days when they use to call Tangradi and Dupuis untouchables after few good games or WJC and now after finally watching them in live action, they have tone down a lot on Dupuis. Pouliot is in the same boat in terms of hype and he is nothing home to write about defensively.

I had say if he gets lucky, he might one day become an average top 4 d-man.

Tangradi was an Anaheim prospect during the WJCs, and all I can recall about his performance therein is that he was involved in a sequence in which Canada fought the USA bench after scoring a goal.

The part about Dupuis is extremely confusing to me. Dupuis was an undrafted player who signed with Minnesota, played something like 8 pro seasons with the Wild and Thrashers, then came to Pittsburgh as an afterthought in a trade for Marian Hossa. If there was ever any "hype" around him, I'm not aware of it.

Are you saying Penguins fans hyped him while he was a Minnesota prospect on the Lumberjacks? Are you talking about Phillippe Dupuis, best known for kneeing the crap out of people?

Just what do you mean?

 

[3074326]

This guy is so overrated just like many previous Pens prospects.

Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players(i am talking about valuable top 6 forward or top 4 d-man).

I remember the days when they use to call Tangradi and Dupuis untouchables after few good games or WJC and now after finally watching them in live action, they have tone down a lot on Dupuis. Pouliot is in the same boat in terms of hype and he is nothing home to write about defensively.

I had say if he gets lucky, he might one day become an average top 4 d-man.

I don't even follow prospects much and this is a horribly uninformed post. If you're going to talk crap, at least have some idea of what you're talking about. Everything you've stated as fact is simply not even close.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I'm guessing he meant Despres instead of Dupuis.

That pretty much completes the picture.

What a train wreck of a post.

 

[SidGenoMario]

I don't feel it's ethical to laugh at anyone who says things like "Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players" in earnest.

 

[Jacob]

This guy is so overrated just like many previous Pens prospects.

Pens fans love to hype to hype their to even to the point they are untouchable for very solid NHL players(i am talking about valuable top 6 forward or top 4 d-man).

I remember the days when they use to call Tangradi and Dupuis untouchables after few good games or WJC and now after finally watching them in live action, they have tone down a lot on Dupuis. Pouliot is in the same boat in terms of hype and he is nothing home to write about defensively.

I had say if he gets lucky, he might one day become an average top 4 d-man.

This post reads like the subject of a SPAM email.

 

[Joey Moss]

Pouliot looks a lot like Duncan Keith to me.. Similar skating style and puck handling.

 

[R S]

Pouliot looks a lot like Duncan Keith to me.. Similar skating style and puck handling.

Not a bad comparison style-wise. Tough to beat Keith's hockey sense though.

 

[jetkarma*]

Not a bad comparison style-wise. Tough to beat Keith's hockey sense though.

Seeing that Morrissey trains with and has had his father train Keith, that he also shows similarities to Duncan Keith isn't surprising. I think his overall game mirrors Keith's more than Pouliot.

 

[Sweech]

Seeing that Morrissey trains with and has had his father train Keith, that he also shows similarities to Duncan Keith isn't surprising. I think his overall game mirrors Keith's more than Pouliot.

Morrissey stylistically reminds me a bit of a Kronwall/Keith hybrid.

Pouliot has been killing it in the playoffs. Pens fans, is he more likely to be full time AHL next year or is he ahead of some of your other D prospects who are waiting in the wings?

 

[arsmaster*]

I've always felt DP's game is far too casual. He's at his best when he's a little bit angry and emotionally invested in the game. When he isn't I see far too many brain cramps.

He has all the tools to be a top offensive dman in the league, just needs to find a way to stay more commited to being physically and defensively engaged.

He's also tough. Not many people know that, he reminds me of Bieksa in that fashion-he'll surprise people early in his career with how well he can handle himself with his gloves off and I'm not just referring to one punching joe hicketts.

 

[wej20]

Morrissey stylistically reminds me a bit of a Kronwall/Keith hybrid.

Pouliot has been killing it in the playoffs. Pens fans, is he more likely to be full time AHL next year or is he ahead of some of your other D prospects who are waiting in the wings?

Offensively he's easily the most talented and it's not even close (though Maatta has impressed in that department. Pens really need to start graduating prospects or trading them (Despres and Samuelsson will need waivers next year, Dumoulin the year after). Dumoulin and Harrington will probably be the call ups next year but I could see Pouliot getting a game or two, especially if one of the offensive guys go down. He's the most natural PPQB the Pens have under contract.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Pouliot has been killing it in the playoffs. Pens fans, is he more likely to be full time AHL next year or is he ahead of some of your other D prospects who are waiting in the wings?

I'd say he's destined for a year of AHL seasoning barring massive turnover on defense (which is possible given our UFAs and the rumoured Kesler proposal). He can already run a PP better than anyone on the Pens blueline, but he has to clean up a lot of bad habits in his own end, and the Pens employ a system that's notoriously difficult for defensemen to pick up.

I've always felt DP's game is far too casual. He's at his best when he's a little bit angry and emotionally invested in the game. When he isn't I see far too many brain cramps.

He has all the tools to be a top offensive dman in the league, just needs to find a way to stay more commited to being physically and defensively engaged.

He's also tough. Not many people know that, he reminds me of Bieksa in that fashion-he'll surprise people early in his career with how well he can handle himself with his gloves off and I'm not just referring to one punching joe hicketts.

Couldn't agree more.