LD Darnell Nurse (2013, 7th, EDM)

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But Oilers only draft forwards. :sarcasm:

Look at the depth of the Edmonton organization:

Defense: Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat, Musil, Simpson, (and others not worth mentioning like Teubert and Fedun)

Offense: um....Rajala, Lander, Hartikainen....


The above explains why Darnell Nurse is not coming to Edmonton. The Oilers need forward talent for the pipeline- specifically either size on the wing (Nichuckin) or a second line center with size (Barkov, Monahan)
 
I don't really see the Subban comparisons as he really isn't a puck rusher or pure offensive defeceman.

His game reminds me of Chris Pronger Not saying he is the next Pronger, but he plays like Pronger did in junior. Nasty, mean and physical. Solid defensively with a heavy shot and underrated offence.

I know that I have been gushing about the kid all year long. lol

reminds me of coburn...not as sexy as the pronger predictions but coburn is a solid 22-26 min a game dman that can skate like the wind.
 
Look at the depth of the Edmonton organization:

Defense: Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat, Musil, Simpson, (and others not worth mentioning like Teubert and Fedun)

Offense: um....Rajala, Lander, Hartikainen....


The above explains why Darnell Nurse is not coming to Edmonton. The Oilers need forward talent for the pipeline- specifically either size on the wing (Nichuckin) or a second line center with size (Barkov, Monahan)

If one of Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat, Musil or Simpson turns into a legit top 4 dman I'll consider us lucky.

You don't pass on a top-10 d-man with first-pairing potential because you have a bunch of B-level D prospects that half the teams in the league have.
 
If one of Klefbom, Marincin, Gernat, Musil or Simpson turns into a legit top 4 dman I'll consider us lucky.

You don't pass on a top-10 d-man with first-pairing potential because you have a bunch of B-level D prospects that half the teams in the league have.

I see your point, but the reality is that picking a d-man in the top 10 is a risky business at the best of times. Add to that a player that has suddenly moved into the top tier- well, suffice to say I don't think Nurse is a "can't miss" prospect.

I think you are undervaluing Klefbom. The Oilers see him as top 4 material, with some thinking he may play next year.

If Oilers are picking 6-7th and Nurse and Monahan are present- mark my words, they will select a centre to replace Gagner.
 
I see your point, but the reality is that picking a d-man in the top 10 is a risky business at the best of times. Add to that a player that has suddenly moved into the top tier- well, suffice to say I don't think Nurse is a "can't miss" prospect.

I think you are undervaluing Klefbom. The Oilers see him as top 4 material, with some thinking he may play next year.

If Oilers are picking 6-7th and Nurse and Monahan are present- mark my words, they will select a centre to replace Gagner.

Suddenly? He's been a top 15 guy all year who has steadily moved up in everyone's rankings and who will likely go between 6-10. You're acting like no one even heard of him before
 
I see your point, but the reality is that picking a d-man in the top 10 is a risky business at the best of times. Add to that a player that has suddenly moved into the top tier- well, suffice to say I don't think Nurse is a "can't miss" prospect.

I think you are undervaluing Klefbom. The Oilers see him as top 4 material, with some thinking he may play next year.

If Oilers are picking 6-7th and Nurse and Monahan are present- mark my words, they will select a centre to replace Gagner.

Since 2008 Dman picked in top 10.

Doughty
Bogosian
Pietrangelo
Schenn
Hedman
Ekman-Larsson
Cowen
Gudbranson
Larsson
Hamilton
Brodin

Doesn't look too risky to me, might have been risky 10 years ago but not today.
 
Comparing a kid to Pronger really throws everything off and sets everything off on the wrong foot, IMO. Really hate throwing out the lofty comparisons like that for any player.

That being said, I absolutely love this guy's physical package. His skating/agility on his feet for such a big guy is going to allow him to be nasty at the NHL level if he wants to be, and I'm sure he will. His skating is more advanced than other big guys drafted high lately like Gudbranson or Jared Cowen. He's way more comfortable handling the puck than other guys with good tools and mean streaks like Siemens, Teubert and even Gudbranson probably. He keeps his game pretty simple, crisp passes, calm plays, with shots that hit the net, he's definitely not anything fancy back there like Subban at all - awful comparison whoever came up with that. His skating and the athleticism/agility he shows in his recoveries is a HUGE asset considering his size. If I was to compare I'd probably say he's like Bouwmeester with an edge - and that's a damn good player and top pairing guy. This player is NOT Karlsson or Subban - he's not driving the bus offensively from the back-end and creating scoring chances on rushes up the ice. If anything, he's a nasty throwback defender who plays a pretty simple game with excellent skating ability.

Never said he was Pronger, merely said he plays a similar game.
 
I see your point, but the reality is that picking a d-man in the top 10 is a risky business at the best of times. Add to that a player that has suddenly moved into the top tier- well, suffice to say I don't think Nurse is a "can't miss" prospect.

I think you are undervaluing Klefbom. The Oilers see him as top 4 material, with some thinking he may play next year.

If Oilers are picking 6-7th and Nurse and Monahan are present- mark my words, they will select a centre to replace Gagner.

I'm not undervaluing him. I think he's the best bet of the bunch, but he's definitely not a sure thing in the least or can't miss. I think he has the potential to be a solid d-man, but he's definitely not a top pairing NHL d-man now. He's definitely not more ready than Schultz was coming into this year and he's getting slammed mentally and physically by his first NHL season because of fatigue issues. I'm not saying they shouldn't select a C, but picking Nurse wouldn't exactly be sacrilege. You can never have enough good d-men, as our current team shows what a dearth of them we have. Teams win with good defense top to bottom.
 
Darnell Nurse/ Bait

If the Oilers stay in the 6th place in the lottery I wouldn't mind seeing Darnell Nurse in a Oilers jersey 6'4 and 190 pounds. He'll need to gain a bit more weight, but it wouldn't be a bad fit in my opinion. A very young team with a quite a bit to learn yet. (Trade bait for the Oilers I could see Horcoff, Hemsky, Peckham,Belanger, Smithson, Khabibulin, Whitney, Potter and possibly Mike Brown)
 
I'm not undervaluing him. I think he's the best bet of the bunch, but he's definitely not a sure thing in the least or can't miss. I think he has the potential to be a solid d-man, but he's definitely not a top pairing NHL d-man now. He's definitely not more ready than Schultz was coming into this year and he's getting slammed mentally and physically by his first NHL season because of fatigue issues. I'm not saying they shouldn't select a C, but picking Nurse wouldn't exactly be sacrilege. You can never have enough good d-men, as our current team shows what a dearth of them we have. Teams win with good defense top to bottom.

I agree with you- Klefbom is certainly not a top pairing defenseman and I am not convinced he ever will be a top 1-2. I have read (can't provide links) that the Oilers might well be expecting him to crack their top 6 next year (not an impossible feat. Move over Corey Potter)

This in my estimation would be a mistake. Major surgery and no playing time for months on end. Welcome to the NHL.

I still think that the only way that the Oilers look to Nurse is in the following situation:

1) Barkov is gone
2) Monahan is gone
3) Nichushkin scares them with his KHL contract

If those three things happen, sign me up as a Nurse fan.
 
Could a few OHL fans comment on Nurse? I know he's a physical monster who tosses aside forwards, hits like a truck, and clears the net like noone else. I also hear he has great lateral mobility and fantastic stickwork and defensive positioning especially for a guy his size. However, I know next to nothing about his offensive game. The Oilers board seems really divided about his offensive potential.
 
So after what MacTavish said about taking a C, you think it was a smokescreen and the selection of Nurse was the player he wanted all along, or he went BPA after seeing the centers he wanted were already gone?
 
He wanted MacKinnon, Lindholm, or Monahan. Mentioned them by name in the same interview.
 
Leading the OHL D in scoring

9GP 1 G 8 A 9 PTS

With the departure of Sproul he has now taken on the duties as the PP quarterback while also playing first pairing shut down minutes and 1st PK minutes. It seems his offensive potential is breaking out.

Should be interesting to see if he is in the NHL next season. He looked NHL ready in his pre season games
 
Leading the OHL D in scoring

9GP 1 G 8 A 9 PTS

With the departure of Sproul he has now taken on the duties as the PP quarterback while also playing first pairing shut down minutes and 1st PK minutes. It seems his offensive potential is breaking out.

Should be interesting to see if he is in the NHL next season. He looked NHL ready in his pre season games

Yup. He's looking poised and quite mature on the ice. I know it's difficult to transition from the CHL to NHL (specifically for D), but he looks ready.

Would love to see him and Klefblom on the Oilers next year.
 
Yup. He's looking poised and quite mature on the ice. I know it's difficult to transition from the CHL to NHL (specifically for D), but he looks ready.

Would love to see him and Klefblom on the Oilers next year.

He almost feels like a player thats better suited for the NHL speed/style then OHL speed/style. I wouldnt be shocked if he was on the Oilers next season, but would only want him up if he was absolutely ready.

A Klefbom-Nurse second pairing next season would be magical to see. I also expect Klefbom to make the jump to the NHL near early January, so hopefully he is able to get all the rookie warts out before Nurse comes in
 
Nurse with a 3 point night tonight, including 2 goals. Looks like his offensive game is continuing to progress with a bigger role this year in SSM.

Puts him at 3-11-14 in 12gp and in a tie for 2nd in defensive scoring in the OHL.
 
Nurse is just starting to understand his potential offensively, the kid is still very raw... you can see it in almost every aspect of his game, in a good way.. he has so much room to grow and already is a great player/prospect. He handles the puck and has the confidence of Subban, hits and roughs it up like Pronger, he does tend to take alot of penalties trying to be too aggressive but that comes with time... by far the best defensive prospect we have had in our system as long as I can remember (and we had CHL Defensemen of the year Ryan Sproul last year).
 

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