Both are GM and coach are from U Maine and a lot of Islanders fan think that is the only reason Snow is loyal to Jack as if U Maine is some secret society that does favors for eachother
LD Andong "Misha" Song - Madison Capitols, USHL (2015, 173rd, NYI)
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Both are GM and coach are from U Maine and a lot of Islanders fan think that is the only reason Snow is loyal to Jack as if U Maine is some secret society that does favors for eachother
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Lee-Song-Ho Sang
Isles are gonna have a huge Asian fanbase in a couple years.
Lee-Song-Ho Sang
Isles are gonna have a huge Asian fanbase in a couple years.
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If it was a business move, I think it's pretty smart. Hockey is becoming increasingly popular in Asia. South Korea and Japan (more registered hockey players than there are in Slovakia, Belarus, or even Denmark) are leading the way, but, Hong Kong, for example, increased its registered hockey players 796% (up to 1631 players) in the last 5 years according to the IIHF.
Slightly off topic, I truthfully believe this is becoming more mainstream in drafting/team building approaches in North American Sports to pander to specific demographics/markets. Someone mentioned the Mavs, and I agree--but even in hockey, Atlanta did this with an increased focus on African American players. If you look a bit closer too, less than a year after all the Latvian/Girgensons/All-star hype, the Sharks, acquired 3 Latvians. I don't think it's the driving force for any of these teams, but I guarantee it's becoming a real factor as teams look to more creative ways to find a profit.
Slightly off topic, I truthfully believe this is becoming more mainstream in drafting/team building approaches in North American Sports to pander to specific demographics/markets. Someone mentioned the Mavs, and I agree--but even in hockey, Atlanta did this with an increased focus on African American players. If you look a bit closer too, less than a year after all the Latvian/Girgensons/All-star hype, the Sharks, acquired 3 Latvians. I don't think it's the driving force for any of these teams, but I guarantee it's becoming a real factor as teams look to more creative ways to find a profit.
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This 796%. It is quite obvious Song wasn't drafted as a hockey player, at least entirely. It is unlikely for a 6th round pick to turn into anything anyways. This pick will turn into something. Just not a hockey player. At least not anywhere near likely to. The only thing I will criticise about this is that they should have waited until Round 7. Regardless, good luck to Song, and hope he beats the odds regardless.
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From a hockey perspective, this pick is horrendous. Even if late round picks rarely pan out, they occasionally do and scouts always have guys they want taken.
From a business perspective, it's a good move. If they get some viewership in China and maybe sell some merchandise, that's good for the Islanders/league.
From a business perspective, it's a good move. If they get some viewership in China and maybe sell some merchandise, that's good for the Islanders/league.
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Just think, if those same chinese fans had moved to Sri Lanka before watching it would have been more like the combined populations of Manitoba and Saskatchewan watching. They would increase their significance by thousands of percent just by being in a different location while watching!
Well, that or looking at the number of new fans as a percentage of the population they happen to be in is complete and utter nonsense. Could be either, really.
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I wonder if Snow had deal in place that included his 7th rounder but fell through some time between the 6th and 7th rounds.
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If this was a vanity pick for positive publicity, they probably used a 6th instead of a 7th or trading down because it makes it look better and less like a vanity pick, when in reality 6th and 7th round picks aren't that far off in value.
Heavy Maine connection with Snow and Capuano both being alumni. Assistant Coach Bob Corkum just came from Maine before last season and was an assistant there for a number of years. Another Isles assistant coach, Greg Cronin, also spent a number of years as the Maine Head Coach and has also coached Northeastern more recently. Goaltending coach Mike Dunham also played at Maine. There will be no problem finding Song a school to play at.
Even front office members like Trent Klatt and Doug Weight all played college hockey, although a long time ago, but the hockey world is a small one and there is no doubt there are former pro and college teammates that will find Song a place to play after his year in Andover.
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When I watched parts of the prospect game I really didn't notice him(which I guess is sort of good because you generally notice either really good or really bad players)
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Yea that's a good sign. Logically, he should be among the worst players at dev camp, being a late pick from the most recent draft.
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He's at Phillips Andover. Their season hasn't started yet. I saw him skate this summer, looked good but a loooong way away.
I'd love to see this work out like the Garth Snow hire, where people thought Wang was insane but it actually ended up working out fairly well, who knew a back up goalie could go straight from the bench to a competent GM in 3 to 5 years. But I do think this pick was disrespectful to the scouts who put in hours driving around in terrible winter conditions to find a late round pick who could be something. Like if your a scout there, what do you think Wang will do if he hears of a Chinese kid with a 3rd round grade? Draft him in the 1st. Would love to eat my words and see Song become a legit NHLer but everytime I think Wang has figured stuff out he does something like this.
Andy is a popular Western name for Chinese celebrities. Andy is short for Andong. One of the most popular actors in China is Andy Lau. That name quite clearly suits him.
This is where the Canucks have missed an opportunity. Vancouver has the highest Chinese ethnic population of any metropolitan area outside of China. Hockey enrollment among members of the Chinese community is low. The organization should invest more in convincing parents here to enroll their kids...
Hockey scholarships, maybe. There are a lot of overseas students from China at Vancouver's universities (with the intention to return to China post-education) who can be brought into the fanbase, and it would be easier if the Canucks had a player of Chinese ethnic origin. If interest is generated among Chinese British Columbians and international students, a segment of the Chinese population would be loyal to the Canucks brand.
Vancouver has the means to develop great players -- it's one of the greatest hockey markets in the world and has all of the infrastructure to develop top-level talent. If enough Chinese players enroll, we would see at least a few stars of Chinese ethnicity. The Canucks' popularity in China and among Vancouver's ethnic Chinese population would grow significantly.
We will never see any Chinese stars emerge from the system here, though, because Chinese parents generally reject sports as a cultural pastime for children. A potential star might never play hockey before he can buy his own equipment in his early 20s.
This is where the Canucks have missed an opportunity. Vancouver has the highest Chinese ethnic population of any metropolitan area outside of China. Hockey enrollment among members of the Chinese community is low. The organization should invest more in convincing parents here to enroll their kids...
Hockey scholarships, maybe. There are a lot of overseas students from China at Vancouver's universities (with the intention to return to China post-education) who can be brought into the fanbase, and it would be easier if the Canucks had a player of Chinese ethnic origin. If interest is generated among Chinese British Columbians and international students, a segment of the Chinese population would be loyal to the Canucks brand.
Vancouver has the means to develop great players -- it's one of the greatest hockey markets in the world and has all of the infrastructure to develop top-level talent. If enough Chinese players enroll, we would see at least a few stars of Chinese ethnicity. The Canucks' popularity in China and among Vancouver's ethnic Chinese population would grow significantly.
We will never see any Chinese stars emerge from the system here, though, because Chinese parents generally reject sports as a cultural pastime for children. A potential star might never play hockey before he can buy his own equipment in his early 20s.
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per capita yes, but NYC area has way more Chinese people than Vancouver and I wouldn't be surprised if LA, Toronto and the Bay area have substantially more than Van. Plus you will slowly start to see more Chinese-canadians kids in the game, read up on Cliff Pu on the Knights.
1. Just out of curiosity why would a backup goalie be any worse then a first line center, top 10 goalie or top pairing defensemen as a GM(all which at some point I seen become GMs before in the NHL)?
2. As much as the pick reeks of Wang, it might actually reek of the new owner(Scott Malkin) who has some business interests in China involving sports wear
