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Former Bruins Brad Marchand traded to Florida, Brandon Carlo to Toronto

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LouJersey said:
He lied about the terms of the draft pick

The organization releasing “we did everything we could”

Anyways even if they make a right move they can’t man up and own it
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Terms of the pick just comes down to details. If he got them a bit wrong at first, *shrug* I see no reason for the GM to deliberately lie about them when he knows they'll become public in a matter of hours. Why bother?

Not sure if Don actually said "best we could" or "everything we could", but regardless, define it. In his mind Sweeney may well think they did, because even "everything" still only implies "everything reasonable" and not literally everything. So I'm ok with that too.

Let the record show that I've criticized Sweeney and the Bruins management more broadly on multiple occasions. I'm no apologist for them. I simply don't see that they've done anything majorly wrong here. If the reports are accurate, they offered Brad more than I would have. But they still couldn't find a 'landing spot', as Don would say, so they parted ways. Which to my mind in this case is how it should be. That's really all there is to it.
 
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LouJersey said:
One other thing, at any point are we going to blame the architects of this team for this season?

I think they did a great job pulling the plug, but like usual with some groups I see players were out of shape, not focused, bad leadership, of course bad coaching, I mean they could only turn Geekie into a probable 25 goal guy and not Brazeau as well. Everyone should be catching strays here no?
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To give Sweeney credit, in his presser he did say something along the lines of 'this is my fault/responsibility' or 'it's on me'. Which it is. But not just him. Plenty of blame to go around. From Neely to Monty to the other coaches to the leaders amongst the playing group, and probably more folk besides. Lots went wrong.

But it really looks like Don is going to get the opportunity to fix his mess. I'm 50/50 on whether he should but it is what it is. It is easy enough to assign the blame where it belongs but it doesn't necessarily mean that all those on whom it falls should be fired. What it shouldn't be is forgotten. If Sweeney and Neely do indeed survive this, then at the very least their amount of rope should now be significantly shorter. Turn the ship around, or be on your way. No more screw ups.
 
DKH said:
You think it’s over for him here ?
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I’m confused where you stand on this.

Regardless, there is zero chance Marchy signs back with Boston. I usually like to use ‘IMO” in these cases but won’t here.

If he does come back, I will change my avatar to a sign that reads “I’m an arrogant dumbass”. That’s a promise.

Ask me how much sleep I’ll lose over the prospect of having to do that…….. Zero
 
I’m sure this is posted more legibly elsewhere. Full page goodbye from Brad in The Globe this am
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Busy life with two young children, haven't been part of this backlash yet.

Marchy ain't coming back, and quite frankly I am ready to move on. Its time to wash away the "stink" of the prior leadership group. Legendary as they are and nostalgia as fun as it is to exist in. Outside of Tim Thomas dragging them across the finish line in 2011 they have failed to put it all on the line and get across the finish line in crunch time over and over again.

How many meltdowns on home ice over these 15-20 years? how many gm 6s and 7s lost at home and how many blown series (and almost blown series against the leafs?)

2009 2nd round gm7 at home - LOSS
2010 2nd round gm7 at home (blown series and gm 7 leads) - LOSS
2012 1st round gm7 at home - LOSS
2013 SCF gm6 at home (under 2 minutes left) - LOSS
2014 2nd round gm 7 at home - LOSS
2019 SCF gm7 at home (looking shellshocked after the 1st goal, all from the Marchand line change mind you) - LOSS
2023 1st round gm7 at home (blown series and gm 7 leads) - LOSS

all under the leadership of Chara, Bergeron, Krejci and Marchand (Brad not part of that 2009 and 2010 series I understand).

plus 2013, 2018, and 2024 against the leafs all almost blown 3-1 series leads.

Its time to move on, the era is over.

RE: the negotiation and all the reports flying left and right, we can be upset over the AAV, unwillingness to compromise on money or what not but at the end of the day a truly backstabbing move would have been trading him somewhere approved on his list without his input and getting more value. They sent him to the one place where he would go and let it go down to the wire before pulling the trigger.
 
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Mainehockey33 said:
So, Bruins offered 3 years at his current AAV and Marchand asked for a raise?
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That’s what it sounded like, but he did say I think for the pay cut thing. What’s concrete from what he said is Bruins offered a 3 year deal they were off on AAV Marchand called for a face to face meeting. He asked for a compromise bruins said no and moved on. It sounds like they did trade him to where his agent requested. It also sounds like he really didn’t want to move until that meeting.
 
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Yeti34 said:
That’s what it sounded like, but he did say I think for the pay cut thing. What’s concrete from what he said is Bruins offered a 3 year deal they were off on AAV Marchand called for a face to face meeting. He asked for a compromise bruins said no and moved on. It sounds like they did trade him to where his agent requested. It also sounds like he really didn’t want to move until that meeting.
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A compromise would still be over his current AAV. Sounds like he didn’t want to retire a Bruin that bad. Kind of surprising really. Oh well, time to move on.
 
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Patdud said:
Busy life with two young children, haven't been part of this backlash yet.

Marchy ain't coming back, and quite frankly I am ready to move on. Its time to wash away the "stink" of the prior leadership group. Legendary as they are and nostalgia as fun as it is to exist in. Outside of Tim Thomas dragging them across the finish line in 2011 they have failed to put it all on the line and get across the finish line in crunch time over and over again.

How many meltdowns on home ice over these 15-20 years? how many gm 6s and 7s lost at home and how many blown series (and almost blown series against the leafs?)

2009 2nd round gm7 at home - LOSS
2010 2nd round gm7 at home (blown series and gm 7 leads) - LOSS
2012 1st round gm7 at home - LOSS
2013 SCF gm6 at home (under 2 minutes left) - LOSS
2014 2nd round gm 7 at home - LOSS
2019 SCF gm7 at home (looking shellshocked after the 1st goal, all from the Marchand line change mind you) - LOSS
2023 1st round gm7 at home (blown series and gm 7 leads) - LOSS

all under the leadership of Chara, Bergeron, Krejci and Marchand (Brad not part of that 2009 and 2010 series I understand).

plus 2013, 2018, and 2024 against the leafs all almost blown 3-1 series leads.

Its time to move on, the era is over.

RE: the negotiation and all the reports flying left and right, we can be upset over the AAV, unwillingness to compromise on money or what not but at the end of the day a truly backstabbing move would have been trading him somewhere approved on his list without his input and getting more value. They sent him to the one place where he would go and let it go down to the wire before pulling the trigger.
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Great post. However, the bad Marchand line change led to the 2nd goal not the 1st goal. Looking at that list, lots of failures at home during the Julien era!
 
What if this is the ultimate reconnaissance mission and Brad is such a good soldier he agreed to join the enemy for a few months to gain as much knowledge about them as possible?


Probably not. lol
 
Coach Parker said:
This sounds simply like a change to clear out the leadership, allow new leaders to emerge and then bring him back if they want as an 'A' under a new 'C' in the summer.

Bottom line is, they couldn't give term and high AAV on a HHOF player at that age.

Tampa Bay did the same this summer. No one is talking about how poor they are or unhappy the players are there and I'd argue that Stamkos was a bigger move than Marchand.

I love Brad Marchand. #2 right behind Bergeron all time for me. Epic player and HHOF. One of the few guys I'd love to sit and listen to talk the game and share stories.

This team needed a major shake-up and we all knew it. I am critical of Sweeney in many instances (a lot over the last year and especially at the draft table) but this Trade Deadline he got it right IF he offered Brad 3 years.

Then again, is it a real change of culture if the captain is still there?
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I think there is another dynamic possibly in play and that's the 2026 Olympics.
Marchand wants a Good Medal badly and he increases his chance of making the team by having a good PO run with Sam Bennett centering him.

If he plays well with Bennett and stays healthy, why would he comeback and reduce his chances of making the Canadian Olympic Team? I could see Marchand worse case take a 1 year deal at $3M to stay with Florida and boost his Olympic hopes.
 
This is all water under the bridge now. Brad was my second favorite Bruin of his era (behind Bergie of course) and it's been (mostly) great having him on our team. Can I say the lick thing really bothered me? :laugh:

Sucks that he went out this way, but I really can't blame the Bruins at all on this. Sentiment aside, paying the AAV ask for three years to a player that will turn 40 in the last year of the deal is too much. If it weren't Brad, most all of us would slaughter Sweeney for making a deal like that and rightfully so.
 
I can't help but think how this was a bit contrived at the beginning of the year.
Monty calling him out in the media and at times benching him or limiting his minutes.
Monty calling him out for turnovers? Well duh!
Marchy is a puck handling forward, there will be turnovers. All I saw was continued effort unlike Coyle, Lindholm and Frederic who never got called out.

If it was 3 million / 2 years offered to Marchand ...how embarrassing.

I made a post in around November that I have a feeling that Marchand will not be a Bruin next year solely by the way he was being treated.
Low balling him by at least 2 million was their final stab in the back.
 
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DKH said:
If the Bruins offered less then his current 6.125 M they are ageists.

He’s still a really good player deserving of minimum 7 M per next season

I don’t blame Brad wanting more then one year and I don’t blame the Bruins not wanting to go past two

I’d offer 2 @ 7 M per
I’d accept 2 @ 7 M per

What’s the problem boys
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What did Bergeron get at the end at nearly the same age? 1 @ 5m

Krejci got 1 @ 1m

You don't get everything the money and the years at his age and injury history.
 
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