Proposal: Lazar for your U-23 roster winger

[Neiler]

I like the Lazar <--> Yakupov deal. Really does make sense. Lazar is probably going to be more of a bottom 6 type guy and Yakupov is pretty much top 6 or bust. May find his game in Ottawa, who knows. Lazar could be a key role player for Edmonton down the line.

This is exactly why the deal makes no sense for Ottawa. Yak isn't going to unseat Stone or Ryan. He'd be in the bottom six in Ottawa.

Ottawa needs decent role players in the bottom six too. Keeping Lazar makes the most sense.

 

[BubbleGumPlant]

Sven Andrighetto

 

[McSuper]

Done deal for me. Lazar is a fantastic person, but a pretty unfantastic hockey player.

I'd roll the dice with Yakupov and hope he nails it in Ottawa

Fans may offer him up . Management might even accept a suitable offer for him but he is not being shopped . I think some of Yakupov problem was he was isolated . Hall had his little group of guys and because Yakupov is a family first guy and not a bar rat he was on the outside of that team . Since Hall has been traded there has been no mention of Yakupov being shopped . I think Management is still high on Yakupov and will give him top 6 playing time and see what he can do .

LOL at the OP he does not want spare parts but at this point in time that is what he is offering . Lazar is the definition of spare parts . He has not done anything to be more then that at the NHL level , not that Yakupov is anything more then Lazar at this point but he has the skill that made him a 1st OA and skill isn't something you lose

 

[Sting]

I think you aren't giving Lazar enough credit. We've seen flashes of a good player in the making but the guy is still pretty young. He's 21.5 and I'd argue didn't get the best shot in Ottawa given he was moved to every position imaginable. He's a better center than he is a winger, but will likely never get the shot to be a center in Ottawa as it stands.

I would wait to see how the next year under Boucher goes before giving up on him. I think he's the type that could be a great player if well coached because he's very "by the book".

 

[WTFMAN99]

This is exactly why the deal makes no sense for Ottawa. Yak isn't going to unseat Stone or Ryan. He'd be in the bottom six in Ottawa.

Ottawa needs decent role players in the bottom six too. Keeping Lazar makes the most sense.

Yakupov can play both wings.

 

[Nordic*]

LOL at the OP he does not want spare parts but at this point in time that is what he is offering . Lazar is the definition of spare parts .

I don't think you understand the definition of spare parts. First of all, it's plural as in more than one player.

Spare parts means that someone offers several lesser players for one player, and believes their accumulated value might be on par with what the singular player (in this case Lazar) is worth.

 

[rt]

I think some of Yakupov problem was he was isolated . Hall had his little group of guys and because Yakupov is a family first guy and not a bar rat he was on the outside of that team . Since Hall has been traded there has been no mention of Yakupov being shopped . I think Management is still high on Yakupov and will give him top 6 playing time and see what he can do .
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Can you provides some links on any of that? Sounds extraordinarily outlandish.

 

[edguy]

It was last reported the Oilers want a 3rd for Yak. Sens woudnt accept a 3rd for Lazar. Yakupov doesnt get you Lazar.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Lazar is who we hope Vegas takes in the expansion draft (instead of an aging Methot). Why would we trade him?

 

[edguy]

Lazar is who we hope Vegas takes in the expansion draft (instead of an aging Methot). Why would we trade him?

90% chance Lazar is protected..

Turris/Ryan/Hoffman/Stone/Brassard/Pageau/Lazar

Leave Mac unprotected due to injury history (not likely he gets taken for that reason)

 

[garyturner3]

It was last reported the Oilers want a 3rd for Yak. Sens woudnt accept a 3rd for Lazar. Yakupov doesnt get you Lazar.

Link? If all they wanted was a 3rd for Yak he would have been traded already guaranteed.

 

[SPF6ty9]

I think you aren't giving Lazar enough credit. We've seen flashes of a good player in the making but the guy is still pretty young. He's 21.5 and I'd argue didn't get the best shot in Ottawa given he was moved to every position imaginable. He's a better center than he is a winger, but will likely never get the shot to be a center in Ottawa as it stands.

I would wait to see how the next year under Boucher goes before giving up on him. I think he's the type that could be a great player if well coached because he's very "by the book".

This. He doesn't have the high end skill to ever be a first liner. But the hope is he can find his way as a valuable depth guy that can play in all situations, chip in 40ish points a year, and be a good locker room guy. I'd be happy to give him another year or 2 to see what he's got. It's not really hurting us having him play on the 3rd / 4th line. He just needs to add some scoring to his game. If he can do that, by all indicators he would be valued very highly within the organization.

 

[McSuper]

I like the Lazar <--> Yakupov deal. Really does make sense. Lazar is probably going to be more of a bottom 6 type guy and Yakupov is pretty much top 6 or bust. May find his game in Ottawa, who knows. Lazar could be a key role player for Edmonton down the line.

Not happening . He will be given top 6 minutes . Here a quote from a little write up

" Obviously, it’s no secret that Yakupov plays better wth McDavid down the middle. Not only does Yakupov boast a 3.84 goals for per 60 with McDavid, but he also posts a 3.4 relative Corsi and a 59.73 Corsi for percentage. This makes him and McDavid a powerful combination, as well as one of the most lethal ones in the NHL "

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Keep Lazar.

 

[Skiffer55]

Dano or Armia?

Would not trade Dano for him. Probably not Armia either.

 

[McSuper]

Can you provides some links on any of that? Sounds extraordinarily outlandish.

2+2 = 4 . You don't have to see rumours all the time to believe them . Often times rumours is someone putting things together . I have said this before and each time I added it a gut feeling .

Lets look at the facts

1) When Mac T was GM he went behind the bench because there was a known problem in the dressing room .

2) Yakupov does not fit with Hall's and Eberle MO . Not that they are bad . This is not a Kane situation . The are young rich kids with money to burn and they probably have beautiful women throwing theirselves at them .

3) It been well accepted by fans that Yakupov is isolated

4) It well accepted Hall has his own little group he sticks with .

5) I never mention this before . I talked with a person who has a nephew who is a Oiler prospect . He stated that his nephew roomed with RNH for a time in BC and RNH even mention to him Hall is a problem .

If a mod wants to talk to me about this they can . Other wise I will end it there

 

[Juxtaposer]

Hopefully other GM:s haven't realized how bad he is.

So far I like Rieder and Yak offers the most. Don't include Ceci, he's untouchable.

Ceci has to be the most overrated player on this forum if he's "untouchable".

 

[Sens Vader]

lol we arent moving Lazar

I think people are gonna be surprised on how good he'll be

 

[edguy]

Link? If all they wanted was a 3rd for Yak he would have been traded already guaranteed.

Quote from Ryan Rishaug of TSN.

“The price on Yakupov, if and when he gets traded, and he’s not paired with something else, we’re talking a third-round pick right now. The value is just not there. I think they’re holding out, waiting and hoping, but that range of a low second-round pick or a third-round pick is what’s out there.â€

Yakupov doesnt have the value some people think he has.

 

[edguy]

Ceci has to be the most overrated player on this forum if he's "untouchable".

Yes he's over rated because Ottawa isnt going to move their young hometown boy. Who plays the most coveted position in hockey in a top 4 role.

 

[Benjamin]

Ceci has to be the most overrated player on this forum if he's "untouchable".

Ottawa native and 67's guy that would create a massive hole if traded. Short term and long term hole. Between what he provides and what he is for marketing, he's pretty close to untouchable. Ceci could very well be our #2 dman this time next year.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Ottawa native and 67's guy that would create a massive hole if traded. Short term and long term hole. Between what he provides and what he is for marketing, he's pretty close to untouchable. Ceci could very well be our #2 dman this time next year.

Which is a hilarious statement about the Senators. Ceci isn't even close to being a top-2 defenseman. Like I said, one of the most overrated players around here. Just because a player is from Ottawa is no reason for him to be untouchable...

I'd take JT Miller over Ceci in a heartbeat, and y'all know how I feel about the Rangers.

 

[Benjamin]

Which is a hilarious statement about the Senators. Ceci isn't even close to being a top-2 defenseman. Like I said, one of the most overrated players around here. Just because a player is from Ottawa is no reason for him to be untouchable...

I'd take JT Miller over Ceci in a heartbeat, and y'all know how I feel about the Rangers.

His birthplace is part of the reason. Not the reason. Not even the biggest reason.

 

[Leafs87]

Sounds like OP is looking for a bust for bust swap

 

[Juxtaposer]

His birthplace is part of the reason. Not the reason. Not even the biggest reason.

What's the biggest reason? Is it because the Senators have a crappy blueline behind Karlsson? Still not a good reason for a player to be untouchable. A decent middle pairing defenseman who maybe will maybe be a maybe passable #2 one day is not untouchable in any regular person's book.