Confirmed with Link: Laughton (50% retention), a 4th and a 6th to the Leafs for a conditional 2027 1st round pick and Nikita Grebenkin

[rumman]

Stupid move, I don’t know what’s crashing harder HF Boards or the Leafs acquisitions………

 

[Legion34]

What other move did you want them to make? Like I don't understand what you want. They made a move to get a legit 3C. They are giving a pick that's 2 years away (and is top 10 protected). That draft pick would then be 5 years away from any potential impact. So you're talking Greb + a player who is at least 7 years away from NHL action, for a good two way center at 1.5 for the remainder of this season and next.

This is easily the best value trade of the trade deadline and it's not even me being a homer. Look at the rest of the prices. Not even close to being worth it. The big move you want is not available this deadline. What teams are moving quality pieces right now?

I think there is a question if he is 3 c.
We have done this with kerfoot and domi. He was playing wing.

 

[francis246]

I think there is a question if he is 3 c.
We have done this with kerfoot and domi. He was playing wing.

Laughton has played center for most of his career, he played the wing this year after returning from injury. He's a center.

 

[ClarkSittler]

Solid deal. Laughton is a prototypical 3rd line center, plays with grit, kills penalties and will get us 10-15 goals for only 1.5 million/year. McMann or Domi can move up to the 2nd line and replace Holmberg.
I like Grebenkin's attitude, but he's a fringe 4th liner at best. The 1st rounder is 2027 will be in the bottom third and won't matter for another 5 years.

Now we need to go get a RHD.

 

[1specter]

I think there is a question if he is 3 c.
We have done this with kerfoot and domi. He was playing wing.

Torts has had him on the wing almost the whole time he's been there and people here drink the Kool aid calling him a two way 3C LOL

 

[Leafsfan74]

Dogshit uninspired move made out of desperation.

Errrr, tell us how you really feel

If this guy has the character and tenacity he is being promoted as, and I've seen him play to like him but not enough to know him; he will be a nice part of the puzzle if the Leafs move on from their anchor contracts and seek out power forwards and big D Men in the UFA offseason with $20M+ to splurge.

 

[djdev]

whether you like the value or not(i think its not very good but acceptable i suppose given what prices this year are) the problem is the FO continues to spend draft capital to fix around the edges of a team that has proven its core its whats lacking.
its like buying a new bumper for a car that has a broken transmission.
at one point its gonna have to be up to matthews/marner/JT/willy and morgan(the latter 2 at least have a a few bright spots) to take us there, i dont see it and havent for a while. i hope im wrong but im fairly certain im not.

 

[tmlms13]

Apparently a good PKer. Don't care about the 1st. That guy wouldn't be relevant for another 2 to 3 years after he is drafted. Probable late first too. By that point, whether we've won a cup or not, our window is going to be closing. Most likely starting a rebuild/retool at that point. We may have guys we can deal off for other firsts at that point, too. Cost of doing business. Grebs? Meh. Great character player, but hey...so was Danny Markov, and nobody really thinks about him as "a missed opportunity" anymore. Same deal.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

He'll become a guy who fades in the playoffs? We already have enough of that.

I don't love giving a 1st but you gotta pay if you want salary retention.

I really believe many are forgetting that critical aspect - full retention is extremely expensive, usually see the market for that around what a 3rd or 4th alone?

So for me the breakout could be something like:
Laughton + 6th =/= late, protected, '27 1st
Retention & addt'l year + 4th =/= Grebs

 

[1specter]

Errrr, tell us how you really feel

If this guy has the character and tenacity he is being promoted as, and I've seen him play to like him but not enough to know him; he will be a nice part of the puzzle if the Leafs move on from their anchor contracts and seek out power forwards and big D Men in the UFA offseason with $20M+ to splurge.

I don't hate Laughton the player. He's a decent player, but he's not really an answer to anything as he hasn't played C in years and we still have major holes that aren't really addressed.

 

[Warden of the North]

So are mediocre 3Cs for just a little more

No? No, they're not.

 

[francis246]

I don't know why you keep quoting me. Laughton isn't a true 3C, this is a garbage half measure. I'd rather them make no moves with these being the prices. Don't lie to yourself that Laughton is the answer.

wdym Laughton isn't a true 3C? Laughton has played center for a majority of his career. He can play the wing, but this season is the first season he's had an extended look at wing. The last time he played wing for this extended period of time was in 2015.

Prior to returning from injury this past december, he played exclusively center.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

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Scott Laughton, acquired by TOR, is a third line net-crashing centre who plays with an edge. Crashes the net, retrieves and steals pucks, throws hits. Generally produces pretty well. Finishing touch not amazing. Production has been stable, but impact has bounced back from 23-24.View attachment 989059

I couldn't care less about the 15% nonsense, give me more of the bolded for my bottom 6 please, especially when you're not dealing Robertson or Domi and these are offense-first players taking up 2 spots in the bottom 6.

 

[HkyBeegs3]

I'm so beyond watching Domi, he's just not what's required to win it all, I don't care enough about him occasionally scrapping when he's a complete zilch for 20-game stretches all year long. I pity wasting Laughton at 3C being saddled by NRob and Domi - what a terrible 3rd line for playoff hockey.
If Tree doesn't shore up with another bottom 6 winger who's pure checking and defensively-responsible, I really don't think shoring up 3C with Laughton helps enough to nullify the terrible winger situation on that line.
*I suppose McMann could be there instead, which is much better, if Patches can be healthy for the POs but that's a big IF.

I don't know why you keep quoting me. Laughton isn't a true 3C, this is a garbage half measure. I'd rather them make no moves with these being the prices. Don't lie to yourself that Laughton is the answer.

Matthews, marner and whomever plays net will be the answer not Laughton. Support player

 

[hullsy47]

That’s a good f***ing deal.

the fact that we keep both Minten and Cowan, i can accept this.. still a bit steep but at least he has term

Besides dallas colorado winnepeg florida and tampa all got better or are already better
Leafs aint winning no cup
Shanahan tied tye leafs hands by not moving marner before his nmc kicked in wiyhout him being ectended
This is on shanny

 

[Martin Skoula]

I like Grebenkin's attitude, but he's a fringe 4th liner at best. The 1st rounder is 2027 will be in the bottom third and won't matter for another 5 years.

Now we need to go get a RHD.

Having a 1st doesn’t mean you’re drafting with it, we’re at a point where it’s better to bundle a couple 1sts + prospects to get a longterm impact player than to keep bleeding 1st+ every deadline to get short/medium term filler pieces.

 

[horner]

One the Laughton hasn't played with this group of offensive players before.

 

[GardinerTheForward]

Fire Boston Pizza. Fire Shanahan

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

It sucks to lose to Grebs, it does but I can't hate this deal.

Laughton makes you better NOW

Philly retains 50%

they 1st is in 2027, AND it's top 10 protected

you get 2 picks back in I assume 2025 although I don't know the year.

you keep Minten, Cowan Danford, the 2026 1st, and the 2025 2nd, and 2025 3rd.

you kept all your best assets.

I have always said go all in, no issue with that, but if you csn get better without selling the future do it.

They got better and they didn't really sell the future. because again the 2027 1st is protected

this is a GREAT deal

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Laughton is a 3rd liner, but he's a legit 3rd liner. A guy that can give you 35-40 points on a bad team can only be a lock to get 40 here with better players. He isn't soft either. I hope we finally put Domi on the wing with Matthews now.

Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - Marner
Robbie - Kampf/Holmberg- Nylander

You mean you don't prefer the bolded instead? Nonsense

Torts has had him on the wing almost the whole time he's been there and people here drink the Kool aid calling him a two way 3C LOL

I don't think I've seen a single poster call him 2-way - I'm pretty sure we're all aware he's got slightly-better -than-Kampf-level offensive ability.

 

[ryno23]

Why is everyone so hung up on Grebenkin? He's a B prospect that may not even cut it in the NHL. We get a player that brings grit our team needs, he'll solidify our 3rd line and bring energy, and we have another year of term. With 50% retention! This is a decent deal for Brad.

the leaf fan base has always loved those underdog grinder type guys. Part of the problem is the media hypes these guys up

There was Brad "Motor City" Smith back in my day guy was a plug but media loved him cause he was a grinder and good with the media. He left Toronto and was never heard of again.

So many of these types thru Toronto over the years.

 

[tmlms13]

Getting 50% retained and an extra year makes me fine giving up really late 1st

 

[Martin Skoula]

No? No, they're not.

Duchene, Roslovic, Heinen at 2-3 mil last offseason. Maybe not going forward anymore with the cap increase but 30-40 point C/W with some grit or PK ability haven’t been expensive the last few years.

 

[Leafsfan74]

Besides dallas colorado winnepeg florida and tampa all got better or are already better
Leafs aint winning no cup
Shanahan tied tye leafs hands by not moving marner before his nmc kicked in wiyhout him being ectended
This is on shanny

The worst thing is how many in Toronto media want them to pay Marner MORE and to re-sign JT.

If they get to the Finals I will say "pay them", if not, the Leaf fans are going to be insulted for another year lol.

The franchise is a global joke there is no getting around this.

Let's see if they can surprise the world.

 

[The Masters]

savvy deal by Brad. With all the high prices, he cooked.