Latest on the Arizona Coyotes Arena ordeal
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No offense unless you provide actual details I'm not going to take your word for it that this information is wrong. It takes more than the say so of a random hf forumer.
Sure - The team could purchase the facility as a part of the move. Just as the Flames should pay out the city of Calgary and release us taxpayers from the idiotic arena deal.Oh... so to one of those publicly built/subsidized arenas you hate so much??
This makes a lot more sense then expanding and further harming the talent pool.
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Just provided one above. The Coyotes and Smith group have not talked to each other.
No offense but I don't care if you want to believe it or not.
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Because YOU owe it to us.
What a raft of s**t
Because YOU owe it to us.
What a raft of s**t
Buy your weird yotes jerseys now. Soon to be a collectors item.
Welcome to the league Salt Lake City Coyojets!
Welcome to the league Salt Lake City Coyojets!
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I have a question for those who live in the Phoenix area, attend games (past/present), and are fans of the Coyotes...
With Vegas entering the league - has there been any increase of city/state pride, and/or support for the team now that there's a rival in Nevada?
With Vegas entering the league - has there been any increase of city/state pride, and/or support for the team now that there's a rival in Nevada?
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Agenda for the monthly land meeting in Arizona today. Nothing about AM or Coyotes trying to buy/auction on land.
Board meets monthly for official business....so at this point is it at least another month for them to be even on the Agenda.
Curious of what is going on with this land if they aren't even in discussion yet.
Also of note on the last page has a bidding for land recently sold by auction. Original appraisal was $15,700,000 and sold for $32,300,000. So could we see land going for double its appraised value?
Ryan Smith would bend over and let Gary Bettman do inappropriate things to him. Tilman Fertitta wont.
That's the difference between Salt Lake City and Houston for the NHL, metaphorically speaking. Fertitta doesn't want to pay massive expansion/relocation fees.
Regardless of Arizona moving or not, there's almost certainly going to be further expansion.
Seems like Atlanta Part III is inevitable, and Houston is probably a matter of posturing between the NHL and Fertitta. You'd think they'll eventually get something done.
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Could be, but IMO the reason that Bettman and the 31 other owners have put as little pressure on Arizona to get its business in order is because it saves the other owners money. Say what? How?
1. Arizona has no effect on the revenues of any other team. In fact having a team in the #11 market (size) in the USA probably adds value to the national TV contract.
2. NHL welfare checks (revenue sharing) aren't at an elevated level just to support the Coyotes. The pot doesn't get bigger just because Arizona is incompetent. If NYI was in last and Arizona was middle of the pack, the size of the total revenue sharing pot would still be the same.
3. Arizona, with it's extremely low HRR is single handedly driving the salary cap down, which saves the 31 other owners money.
NHL HRR for 2023 was approximately 83.5 million x 2 (players share and owners share) x 32 teams for a total of league HRR of approximately $5.3 billion. To make this as simple as possible imagine if a.) all team had the same HRR of $167 million ($5.3 billion in league HRR). All teams would keep $83.5 million and pay out $83.5 million in salary.
b.) 31 teams had HRR of ~$172.5 million and Arizona had zero. Total league HRR would be the same ($5.3 billion), but 31 owners would keep ~$89 million and pay out $83.5, while Arizona would take in 0 and still have to pay out $83.5 million to the players.
My stance is the same as it's been for awhile. No matter how good the team gets, the city is conditioned to not give a shit.
Move them, let the sour taste in everybody's mouth over the last 25 years fade. In 10-15 years when a new arena is built in a viable location, revisit the possibility of giving them a new team.
It's pretty much what's going on in Atlanta, currently.
Move them, let the sour taste in everybody's mouth over the last 25 years fade. In 10-15 years when a new arena is built in a viable location, revisit the possibility of giving them a new team.
It's pretty much what's going on in Atlanta, currently.
I can't believe there's been NHL hockey in Arizona longer than it lasted in Quebec city.
It was pathetic 8 years ago. Now it's just... I don't even know.
It was pathetic 8 years ago. Now it's just... I don't even know.
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That poster has had a personal agenda for years. I assume they have a vested interest in current owners. They will never have a rational conversation unless you agree with everything they say.
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Don't forget top of the line arena and facilities!
You'd think this massive market would contribute to revenue sharing rather than suck off the league's tit since being born.
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