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TV: Late Show - Letterman retiring May 20; Colbert debuting Sept 8 (post: 248)

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Oscar Acosta said:
I like Colbert, I just can't see it working that well. Colbert Report is one thing when you're acting, having to be yourself without that act is another.

The first monologue sucks people in, Leno had his old person crowd, Letterman had his dead pan sarcasm and comedic timing. Conan did his own thing and got relegated to TBS. Jimmy Fallon is actually far more awesome than people give him credit for (I honestly tuned in to see him fail).

Stephen Colbert, I don't see it.

Sidenote: Norm MacDonald would be awesome at it, hilarious, quick witted, deadpan in telling a joke, best anchor SNL ever had. And he's wickedly smart.
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Sub in Colbert Report for SNL, and all of these attributes easily apply to Colbert. I'm not sure where you make the distinction.

Colbert's in character on his show, but that doesn't make him any less hilarious, quick witted, deadpan, or intelligent. He shines in his unscripted interviews, which are as good as any part of the Report.
 
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Rowdy Roddy Peeper said:
Sub in Colbert Report for SNL, and all of these attributes easily apply to Colbert. I'm not sure where you make the distinction.

Colbert's in character on his show, but that doesn't make him any less hilarious, quick witted, deadpan, or intelligent. He shines in his unscripted interviews, which are as good as any part of the Report.
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Not sure how you don't if you didn't grow up in the Norm era. They are completely different styles, one is a comedian, one is an actor for starters.

Deadpan usually involves not busting out laughing at your own jokes, Colbert has never been able to really do that since being a reporter on the Daily Show. Meaning you can deliver a joke with a straight face.

Not entirely sure you really get the idea of deadpan, but ok. Moving on.. Every interview you GIVE, is different than one you RECEIVE. Everyone that has been a guest on Colbert, he has had his questions and answers written for him.

A comedian in years of training does not, they learn to deal with hecklers, comments, and throwing it back. Jon Stewart is great at it, he was once a comedian. Norm MacDonald, David Letterman, Jay Leno, etc.
Stephen Colbert was once a guest star on Spin City.

I could honestly see if Jon Stewart went over in a huge power move, not this one.
 
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Good choice.

Sounds like it will be a potential panel format with other comedians. One guy who I hope they do use is John Hodgman. I was hoping he might get the slot, but Wilmore is a pretty good pick.
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Wilmore's bit on the Daily Show on Whites "making up" for slavery by electing Obama was one of the funniest bits I've ever seen.
 
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The Wilmore Report has a ring to it, but I reserve judgement until he has the job. I like his bits, but I am unsure about him carrying his own show.
 
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Oddly, huge Twitter campaign to have Norm MacDonald as host of the followup show.

#latelatenormnorm

Knew I wasn't off base on it.
 
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I actually think that could work really well. I'm crossing my fingers. A Colbert Norm lineup would be so much stronger than a Fallon Meyers lineup

norm isn't SO inaccessible that he couldn't do the Ferguson thing
 
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Norm went on to campaign for himself and for the rest of the interview he pretty much puts the nail in his own coffin in terms of actually having any realistic hope of getting the job :laugh:

Goes off on Gypsys, amputee sprinters, killing prostitutes, etc..... Yeah, I'd be surprised if the suits gave him Ferguson's job.





The second video is hysterical. The way he jumped back and forth and played them like a fiddle with that Oscar Pistorius stuff was incredible, as was his Jacque DeGatineaux story. He'd be the greatest talkshow sidekick of all time, IMO, if only there was a host who could put their ego aside and let themselves be outclassed on a daily basis.

"I feel that one of the basic requirements of being a sprinter............ is having legs." :laugh:
 
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I don't share in the adoration for Norm MacDonald. He's a legitimate crazy person who was washed up 15 years ago.
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He's incredibly funny but also incredibly lazy and a bit of a dummy sometimes, though a lot of times that stupidity is funny

His podcast was unbelievable fun and he got like 50k an episode, but he just got lazy and quit

check out the andy dick episode and ESPECIALLY the super dave episode
 
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Letterman, Ferguson and Colbert vs. Leno, Fallon and Myers. CBS is way more likely to go with someone who is more edgy or unconventional than NBC is. I mean, Ferguson's show is completely off-the-wall anyways, so it's not like they have to (or even would be looking to) get a corporate shill like Fallon to replace him. I'd like to think Norm has an outside chance at this. It would be the best thing ever if this happened.
 

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He's incredibly funny but also incredibly lazy and a bit of a dummy sometimes, though a lot of times that stupidity is funny

His podcast was unbelievable fun and he got like 50k an episode, but he just got lazy and quit

check out the andy dick episode and ESPECIALLY the super dave episode
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He's back on the podcast actually, first two guests for the second season of the show have been Ray Romano and Adam Sandler. The Sandler episode had some great SNL stories in it.
 
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Oscar Acosta said:
Not sure how you don't if you didn't grow up in the Norm era. They are completely different styles, one is a comedian, one is an actor for starters.

Deadpan usually involves not busting out laughing at your own jokes, Colbert has never been able to really do that since being a reporter on the Daily Show. Meaning you can deliver a joke with a straight face.

Not entirely sure you really get the idea of deadpan, but ok. Moving on.. Every interview you GIVE, is different than one you RECEIVE. Everyone that has been a guest on Colbert, he has had his questions and answers written for him.

A comedian in years of training does not, they learn to deal with hecklers, comments, and throwing it back. Jon Stewart is great at it, he was once a comedian. Norm MacDonald, David Letterman, Jay Leno, etc.
Stephen Colbert was once a guest star on Spin City.

I could honestly see if Jon Stewart went over in a huge power move, not this one.
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I'm not sure you have watched much of Colbert. He is excellent at deadpan. This isn't to say he doesn't laugh at some of the jokes, because he does, but on his show there are SO MANY jokes. I am a huge deadpan comedy fan, and though Nielsen and Norm are my favorites, Colbert is right up there. Most of the time he says just ridiculous things and looks intently into the camera. Norm's humor is more than just deadpan. Norm doesn't really even make jokes. He makes the joke the most obvious or vulgar thing and has perfected the delivery and timing. Colbert has an amazing writing staff, and really fires a lot of jokes into 30 minutes.

I would LOVE to see Norm get the Late Late show but that is never going to happen IMO. He couldn't even do a podcast. Finally now he is back doing it. And with the way the podcast goes, I can't see a big following for him. He can't fill an hour a night. Norm was at his absolute best on Weekend Update, or doing stand up.

Norm's monologues would be ****ing incredible.

I am looking forward to seeing Colbert. I think he will be excellent.
 
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Telos said:
The Wilmore Report has a ring to it, but I reserve judgement until he has the job. I like his bits, but I am unsure about him carrying his own show.
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I was hoping that Jason Jones would get the job. He's my favorite of the Daily Show correspondents, but we shall see I guess.
 
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Fish on The Sand said:
I was hoping that Jason Jones would get the job. He's my favorite of the Daily Show correspondents, but we shall see I guess.
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Same here. There's nothing he wouldn't do to get dat laff.

Behind Colbert and Carell, but easily the best of the rest....though I have a soft spot for Mandvi. He cracks me up too.
 
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Shareefruck said:
Norm went on to campaign for himself and for the rest of the interview he pretty much puts the nail in his own coffin in terms of actually having any realistic hope of getting the job :laugh:

Goes off on Gypsys, amputee sprinters, killing prostitutes, etc..... Yeah, I'd be surprised if the suits gave him Ferguson's job.

(snip)

The second video is hysterical. The way he jumped back and forth and played them like a fiddle with that Oscar Pistorius stuff was incredible, as was his Jacque DeGatineaux story. He'd be the greatest talkshow sidekick of all time, IMO, if only there was a host who could put their ego aside and let themselves be outclassed on a daily basis.

"I feel that one of the basic requirements of being a sprinter............ is having legs." :laugh:
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I love how when Norm goes on talk shows, his accolades are stuff he did in the 90s. It shows how funny he is that hosts will have him on just to crack jokes and goof around. The Jacques DeGatineaux joke was no Moth Joke but it was still funny because of Norm's delivery.

And I'm sure Norm knows he has no chance at the Late Late Show, but he's running with it for ***** and giggles.
 
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I'd imagine that they're going to completely revamp the set as they'll still be using the Ed Sullivan Theater.

But that is a long absence from TV for Fallon to essentially have the airwaves to himself. I'd almost think that CBS/Colbert would do themselves a solid by having the show spend a month or two on the road before unveiling the new set in New York, if that's the reason why there's a delay. Having a week in LA, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston, etc. to drive up interest nationwide.

I wouldn't imagine that a transition is necessary, as Colbert's team pretty much has from December to May already to do that.
 
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