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Both Duchene and Jack Eichel were traded in begging of November. Both were on trading block for a while, both topline centers.
So maybe we going to get same here. He should never play fo wings and we need to see who will stepping up, who are still Jersey. We need to see how team will response. It's less possible, but we still could make playoffs next season. All depends if coaches learn from past mistakes and rest of the team action

Thing is...even if we can't deal Larkin right now, Yzerman still has to try to put together his team for the next season. And I doubt we're going to see him try to tank if we still have Larkin around (let alone also Cat, Faulk, Gibson, potentially Kane, etc.). So, I have to assume Yzerman will at least be trying to complete other moves.

If Larkin is still here in October, and Yzerman has somehow kept working around that and added, I don't think the chance Larkin just stays is small.
 
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Thing is...even if we can't deal Larkin right now, Yzerman still has to try to put together his team for the next season. And I doubt we're going to see him try to tank if we still have Larkin around (let alone also Cat, Faulk, Gibson, potentially Kane, etc.). So, I have to assume Yzerman will at least be trying to complete other moves.

If Larkin is still here in October, and Yzerman has somehow kept working around that and added, I don't think the chance Larkin just stays is small.
The whole reason Larkin is leaving is because Yzerman continually fails to obtain key pieces to get better, FA have no interest in Detroit or Yzerman. The thought that now Larkin wants to be traded will somehow motivate Yzerman to do his job or others to want to join the train wreck is a unique perspective.
 
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The whole reason Larkin is leaving is because Yzerman continually fails to obtain key pieces to get better, FA have no interest in Detroit or Yzerman. The thought that now Larkin wants to be traded will somehow motivate Yzerman to do his job or others to want to join the train wreck is a unique perspective.
Larkin is leaving cause Yzerman told him they're stripping the C from him and giving it to Mo.
 
Not sure where this love of McTavish is coming from in this forum but watching him play, he's not a great player. Sure he had the pedigree of being a high pick but he doesn't have the redeeming quality of one. He's slower than Perron and Rasmussen and has worse brains than Kasper. Do people here really think he's going to suddenly come here and become better than what he currently is in Anaheim? Not sure he's even a center longterm in the NHL as well. The discourse surrounding him right now is basically the same as what was surrounding Zadina. Trying to find an excuse as to why he's not succeeding. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.

Regardless of how I feel about McTavish, any return that doesn't include a center is already not great. This team is already weak enough at that position and not getting one in return would suck. Though I wouldn't mind Tij as the return because I think he's more talented than Desnoyers and he did play center this past year.
Same here. McTavish is slow and not a C, more of a plodding heavy winger. Hard to ignore him getting the bench whether from not being fast enough to process or just laziness, not sure which.

I'd love to get Tij, but I fear he would be a stumbling block for Utah. Pretty sure they soured a little on Peterka and would hope to move him and his dough out in a Larkin deal. I think the only way to get Iginla is with Peterka and nothing else. I would certainly add Cossa and hope that was enough to get Beaudoin or Simashev as well, but who knows. Desnoyer and Peterka would probably get a better added spec(s), but I would prefer Tij. If we have to take a 1st in the deal, please be for 2027 where it will be put to better use.

Tij and Peterka for Larking alone..... yes please.
 
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Thing is...even if we can't deal Larkin right now, Yzerman still has to try to put together his team for the next season. And I doubt we're going to see him try to tank if we still have Larkin around (let alone also Cat, Faulk, Gibson, potentially Kane, etc.). So, I have to assume Yzerman will at least be trying to complete other moves.

If Larkin is still here in October, and Yzerman has somehow kept working around that and added, I don't think the chance Larkin just stays is small.
Larkin had played his last game for Detroit, after all he showed middle finger to his former team,
 
Larkin is leaving cause Yzerman told him they're stripping the C from him and giving it to Mo.
Seems a little too proactive for Yzerman - bet its more like Larkin finally experienced winning with team USA and after commiserating with friends in the league decided life is too short to remain in the do-nothing "Yzerplan". Larkin isn't getting younger, he's done his time, Detroit obviously needs a few more years of wheel spinning before they rid themselves of their GM and staff. The real calamity is Yzerman being forced to perform a trade, perhaps work this summer - the horror.
 
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If Larkin is still here in October, and Yzerman has somehow kept working around that and added, I don't think the chance Larkin just stays is small.
Larkin asked for an exit, and it's in the public sphere now, too. That's not something he can really come back from. I'd argue the chance of him staying isn't just small, it's minuscule.
 
Utah should definitely pull the trigger on Larkin;

Paterka - Cooley - Keller
Schmaltz - Larkin - Guenther
D. But - Hayton - Crouse

Sergachev - Marino
Durzi - Weegar

That is a strong (top 9/top4) nucleus for now and the future.

Doesn’t even include Iginla, Desnoyer, Beaudoin, Simashev or the 2026 19th OA. (Which would be the asset pool to use in Larkin trade)
 
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Utah should definitely pull the trigger on Larkin;

Paterka - Cooley - Keller
Schmaltz - Larkin - Guenther
D. But - Hayton - Crouse

Sergachev - Marino
Durzi - Weegar

That is a strong (top 9/top4) nucleus for now and the future.

Doesn’t even include Iginla, Desnoyer, Beaudoin, Simashev or the 2026 19th OA. (Which would be the asset pool to use in Larkin trade)
Id flip that 19 for 30+36
 
Utah should definitely pull the trigger on Larkin;

Paterka - Cooley - Keller
Schmaltz - Larkin - Guenther
D. But - Hayton - Crouse

Sergachev - Marino
Durzi - Weegar

That is a strong (top 9/top4) nucleus for now and the future.

Doesn’t even include Iginla, Desnoyer, Beaudoin, Simashev or the 2026 19th OA. (Which would be the asset pool to use in Larkin trade)
Was kinda shocked how Utah fans don't really want him. I feel like you wanna get better faster and draw players to your team even more. While also giving the finger to Minnesota, especially with how open the West is.
 
Larkin had played his last game for Detroit, after all he showed middle finger to his former team,
if we can't move him and go into the fall with him on the club, he's going to suit up. He's going to see the ice. He'll have a rough few games where he's booed but if he plays well, the team plays well, it'll blow over.

Larkin asked for an exit, and it's in the public sphere now, too. That's not something he can really come back from. I'd argue the chance of him staying isn't just small, it's minuscule.

I think he's dealt before August, just to be clear. I'm sorta expecting him to be moved at the draft. But if he isn't moved, as the post I was responding to was mentioning november, I think? Or December? At that point, I don't think him staying would be a crazy outcome. I think the crazier outcome is if they refuse to play him or if he straight up refuses to play.
 
I think he's dealt before August, just to be clear. I'm sorta expecting him to be moved at the draft. But if he isn't moved, as the post I was responding to was mentioning november, I think? Or December? At that point, I don't think him staying would be a crazy outcome. I think the crazier outcome is if they refuse to play him or if he straight up refuses to play.
It's really hard to say what would happen. I wouldn't be entirely against him staying, so long as someone else is wearing the C. I just don't think that's likely either. Like you, I think he's dealt this summer. If not? Well, he pretty much has to do whatever is asked of him. Within the confines of his contract, of course.
 
No he will not.
Yes he will. If he is on the roster come camp he is going to play or start forfeiting his paycheck.

They will strip the letter, let his teammates run him in practice and hope the better return happens. But they will make him fulfill his contract, don’t forget Yzerman’s contract speech at the end of the year presser.
 
Yes he will. If he is on the roster come camp he is going to play or start forfeiting his paycheck.

They will strip the letter, let his teammates run him in practice and hope the better return happens. But they will make him fulfill his contract, don’t forget Yzerman’s contract speech at the end of the year presser.
Detroit will pay him not to play, as most teams do when they're trying to move an asset. He will practice with Michigan or something. But he's not suiting up in NHL games and risk getting injured. And he certainly won't be around the team anymore. His time in Detroit is over.
 
if we can't move him and go into the fall with him on the club, he's going to suit up. He's going to see the ice. He'll have a rough few games where he's booed but if he plays well, the team plays well, it'll blow over.



I think he's dealt before August, just to be clear. I'm sorta expecting him to be moved at the draft. But if he isn't moved, as the post I was responding to was mentioning november, I think? Or December? At that point, I don't think him staying would be a crazy outcome. I think the crazier outcome is if they refuse to play him or if he straight up refuses to play.
Id rather not seeing him at all . I don't want to see booing my own players. It's not healthy
 
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Thing is...even if we can't deal Larkin right now, Yzerman still has to try to put together his team for the next season. And I doubt we're going to see him try to tank if we still have Larkin around (let alone also Cat, Faulk, Gibson, potentially Kane, etc.). So, I have to assume Yzerman will at least be trying to complete other moves.

If Larkin is still here in October, and Yzerman has somehow kept working around that and added, I don't think the chance Larkin just stays is small.
Yzerman would have to make a major move that energizes the fan base and draws attention from Larkin and Larkin would need to go on a big time pr tour kissing the fans and franchises ass to not get lit the f*** up every time he touches the ice.
 
Detroit will pay him not to play, as most teams do when they're trying to move an asset. He will practice with Michigan or something. But he's not suiting up in NHL games and risk getting injured. And he certainly won't be around the team anymore. His time in Detroit is over.
The PA would crap all over that.

He has five years on the deal remaining, they aren’t going to bubble wrap him and the other team is going to want him in hockey shape.

Guys that skip camp have a terrible history in this league. If he is on the roster he is going to play. He is going to get booed and they are going to rough ride him in drills and let him get his ass kicked at times in a game. Expand your list my man. Tough reality.
 
The PA would crap all over that.

He has five year deal remaining, they aren’t going to bubble wrap him and the other team is going to want him in hockey shape.
Detroit's only contractual obligation is to pay him and give him his full benefits. Similar to Vegas and Bruce Cassidy. They have an interest in protecting their asset for risk of him getting injured. They certainly aren't required to dress him. They can scratch him, as is their right. You think Larkin gets to demand to be in the lineup too?

The NHLPA has never filed any grievances over this in the past. Players have sat for weeks/months waiting to be traded in the past without any issue.
 
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Seems a little too proactive for Yzerman - bet its more like Larkin finally experienced winning with team USA and after commiserating with friends in the league decided life is too short to remain in the do-nothing "Yzerplan". Larkin isn't getting younger, he's done his time, Detroit obviously needs a few more years of wheel spinning before they rid themselves of their GM and staff. The real calamity is Yzerman being forced to perform a trade, perhaps work this summer - the horror.
Quinn told him how close they were to being teammates and Larkin got mad and said f*** it I'm out.
 
Detroit's only contractual obligation is to pay him and give him his full benefits. Similar to Vegas and Bruce Cassidy. They have an interest in protecting their asset for risk of him getting injured. They certainly aren't required to dress him. They can scratch him, as is their right. You think Larkin gets to demand to be in the lineup too?

The NHLPA has never filed any grievances over this in the past. Players have sat for weeks/months waiting to be traded in the past without any issue.
What guys have been scratched long term waiting for a trade?
 

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