Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[ChesterNimitz]

Love Subban, but this just isn’t true imo. He was better someways, but his first pass or passing in general was a step behind Markov’s.

I respect your opinion.

But these differences in opinions is what makes sport so compelling and interesting. There is no objective metric that can conclusively determine one player’s superiority in this aspect of the game. Both Subban and Markov were talented defenceman who saw the ice well and had the talent and instincts to make a pass that created offensive chances. I appreciated the velocity, length and accuracy of Subban’s passes and admired the creativeness of Markov’s first passes.

As some here know, I have followed Mailloux’s development closely since he was drafted and wrote extensively about his play both when he played for London and Laval. While critical of Mailloux’s lack of defensive acumen, explosive skating and stamina, I have effusively praised his offensive awareness, shot and laser like passing.

I said it then and I’ll say it now, Maillioux has the best first pass of any current defenceman that I have seen in the Canadiens’ organization and in the event he can overcome the other deficiencies in his game, Mailloux , in the end, will prove to have better first pass than either Subban or Markov. Such is the level of this young defenceman’s talent in this regard.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I respect your opinion.

But these differences in opinions is what makes sport so compelling and interesting. There is no objective metric that can conclusively determine one player’s superiority in this aspect of the game. Both Subban and Markov were talented defenceman who saw the ice well and had the talent and instincts to make a pass that created offensive chances. I appreciated the velocity, length and accuracy of Subban’s passes and admired the creativeness of Markov’s first passes.

As some here know, I have followed Mailloux’s development closely since he was drafted and wrote extensively about his play both when he played for London and Laval. While critical of Mailloux’s lack of defensive acumen, explosive skating and stamina, I have effusively praised his offensive awareness, shot and laser like passing.

I said it then and I’ll say it now, Maillioux has the best first pass of any current defenceman that I have seen in the Canadiens’ organization and in the event he can overcome the other deficiencies in his game, Mailloux , in the end, will prove to have better first pass than either Subban or Markov. Such is the level of this young defenceman’s talent in this regard.

I respect your opinion as well. I am a big supporter of Mailloux, so I hope you are correct,

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I respect your opinion as well. I am a big supporter of Mailloux, so I hope you are correct,

So am I.

 

[ReHabs]

Subban's passing vision was great as was his technique. His skill was underrated because he was also physical, also fast, and also a big time shooter... and a big time personality. He was an all-tools D-man for us and a topX d-man in the league.

Was Markov's passing technique better? Maybe. Was he more clever in his positioning? Sure. But between natural athleticism (incl stamina) and Markov's busted knees, Subban was more complete and therefore better. Keep in mind the Norris is one of the best trophies in the NHL because there are no unworthy Norris winners -- Subban earned his Norris.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Subban earned his Norris, I'd say that Subban's peak was higher than Markov's but Markov was so consistently dominant and instrumental.

It's hard to choose between the two of them because of that, but Subban in the playoffs might just edge Markov out.

 

[FerrisRox]

My post was in response to a characterization of Hutson’s stretch lob pass being Markov-like. I said Subban’s first pass ability was superior and that Mailloux’s first pass ability would be better than Subban’s. As for the rest of Mailloux’s comparative defensive game , time will tell.

Subban's first pass was not better than Markov's.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Subban's first pass was not better than Markov's.

It was not.

Markov's first pass and passing on the PP are as good as it gets.

 

[Tyson]

With all the hype surrounding Lane Hutson I hope it slows down a bit. Too much too early.

 

[Frank Drebin]

With all the hype surrounding Lane Hutson I hope it slows down a bit. Too much too early.

I hope it continues to be justified.

 

[Tuggy]

With all the hype surrounding Lane Hutson I hope it slows down a bit. Too much too early.

I was just about to post something about the hype. Everywhere I read on this site (not just HFHabs), I see Lane Hutson

Habs fans have no chill.

 

[Habs Halifax]

This kid is SPECIAL. So creative and he has the skills to do what he wants with the puck. There will be a game plan for sure, but there will also be times where Lane does his thing ala Subban.

I see chaos with this guy. In the offensive zone he will see things and do some crazy stuff that opponent won't be able to predict, and it will throw their entire defensive scheme off and result in absolute chaos

What I want to see if how he responds when he makes a critical mistake that leads to an odd man rush or goal against (it's going to happen... question of when, not if). Does he start to play safer or smarter? These kinds of things changes young players energy/momentum but the good players overcome it fast. For example, Look at Slaf's puck management improvement as the season went along last year!

Good news is MSL is not M Therrien. He's going to work with the young player to make the small adjustments required (without pounding assignments down their throat obsessively). This is the difference between the dinosaur coaches vs the new ones like MSL.

I was just about to post something about the hype. Everywhere I read on this site (not just HFHabs), I see Lane Hutson

Habs fans have no chill.

When I see stuff like this, I tend to listen to what others outside of the Habs fan base are saying. In this case, there are lots of calm down comments but there are also some hype type comments made as well.

That gives you a good indication of if we are hyping up too much or not. Depends on the person I guess.

I told a friend of mine (Big Leafs fan) that I put $100 on Hutson winning the Calder the other day. His response? He's a gambler like me and he bet some money on Hutson winning the Calder as well. Didn't tell me how much he bet on it though

 

[WeThreeKings]

I was just about to post something about the hype. Everywhere I read on this site (not just HFHabs), I see Lane Hutson

Habs fans have no chill.

It's coming from the organization, it's coming from the players, it's coming from spitting chiclets.

This isn't localized to the Habs fan base with a small media following like in the case of Norlinder.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

It's coming from the organization, it's coming from the players, it's coming from spitting chiclets.

This isn't localized to the Habs fan base with a small media following like in the case of Norlinder.

It's coming from NHL.com also, already putting him on the Habs top 4 in their previews.

 

[Rapala]

It was not.

Markov's first pass and passing on the PP are as good as it gets.

We just need to phone a friend for confirmation.
Sheldon what did you think of Markov's passing abilities.
05/06 06/07 were Souray's most productive seasons playing with a healthy Markov.

 

[Rapala]

What I want to see if how he responds when he makes a critical mistake that leads to an odd man rush or goal against (it's going to happen... question of when, not if). Does he start to play safer or smarter? These kinds of things changes young players energy/momentum but the good players overcome it fast. For example, Look at Slaf's puck management improvement as the season went along last year!

Good news is MSL is not M Therrien. He's going to work with the young player to make the small adjustments required (without pounding assignments down their throat obsessively). This is the difference between the dinosaur coaches vs the new ones like MSL.



When I see stuff like this, I tend to listen to what others outside of the Habs fan base are saying. In this case, there are lots of calm down comments but there are also some hype type comments made as well.

That gives you a good indication of if we are hyping up too much or not. Depends on the person I guess.

I told a friend of mine (Big Leafs fan) that I put $100 on Hutson winning the Calder the other day. His response? He's a gambler like me and he bet some money on Hutson winning the Calder as well. Didn't tell me how much he bet on it though

If we are good with the eventual breakdowns in play we are probably looking at Quinn Hughes type numbers.
Hughes was actually worse in his second full season Covid 2 and we did have a front row seat for most of it.
Interestingly enough Vancouver had a very good season Covid 1 they won their play in and then beat the defending Champs in round 1.

 

[LaP]

I was just about to post something about the hype. Everywhere I read on this site (not just HFHabs), I see Lane Hutson

Habs fans have no chill.

He's a pretty damn good prospect. Any fans base would love having him and would hype him.

 

[WeThreeKings]

He's a pretty damn good prospect. Any fans base would love having him and would hype him.

I find this fan base has so much PTSD, it's like we aren't allowed to get excited for players.

Hutson and Demidov are special. We can get excited.

 

[LaP]

I find this fan base has so much PTSD, it's like we aren't allowed to get excited for players.

Hutson and Demidov are special. We can get excited.

Absolutely agree 100%

 

[Tuggy]

No doubt Hutson is super exciting. I think he's going to be a star in the league.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Subban earned his Norris, I'd say that Subban's peak was higher than Markov's but Markov was so consistently dominant and instrumental.

It's hard to choose between the two of them because of that, but Subban in the playoffs might just edge Markov out.

I wouldn’t argue that Subban wasn’t the more complete package at their respective peaks, but I don’t think his first pass is an area where he bested Markov. Andrei was never the faster man on the ice, but he’d burn you quick if you made a bad pinch or got caught out of position with his elite passing. I think passing and vision are the 2 areas where Markov is ahead of Subban and I think he’s got a pretty big advantage there.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

What I want to see if how he responds when he makes a critical mistake that leads to an odd man rush or goal against (it's going to happen... question of when, not if). Does he start to play safer or smarter? These kinds of things changes young players energy/momentum but the good players overcome it fast. For example, Look at Slaf's puck management improvement as the season went along last year!

Good news is MSL is not M Therrien. He's going to work with the young player to make the small adjustments required (without pounding assignments down their throat obsessively). This is the difference between the dinosaur coaches vs the new ones like MSL.



When I see stuff like this, I tend to listen to what others outside of the Habs fan base are saying. In this case, there are lots of calm down comments but there are also some hype type comments made as well.

That gives you a good indication of if we are hyping up too much or not. Depends on the person I guess.

I told a friend of mine (Big Leafs fan) that I put $100 on Hutson winning the Calder the other day. His response? He's a gambler like me and he bet some money on Hutson winning the Calder as well. Didn't tell me how much he bet on it though

Lane Hutson is going to continue to be Lane Hutson, he’d never be a nhl defenceman at all without being dynamic, he knows this, he’s not going to change his game because of a mistake here or there.

This kid is the real deal and I’m pumped as f*** lol x.

 

[KevSkillz4]

I find this fan base has so much PTSD, it's like we aren't allowed to get excited for players.

Hutson and Demidov are special. We can get excited.

Both have superstar potential, 100%. Theirs skillset, hockey IQ and hands are too good!

 

[CrazyBob]

Ok seriously Hutson is insane. Every time hes on the ice something crazy happen.

He was involved in everything tonight. Hes gonna be a special player

 

[Vachon23]

The kid is good

Very good

 

[Canadienna]

His first win in a Habs sweater.