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Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

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The Gr8 Dane said:
The skillset he has at the point is different than something a winger or center would need/have.

His vision at the point and the way he can be shifty from a standstill is deadly from the blue line in the offensive zone.

His straight line speed and shot would hamper him in being a forward
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Straight, to the point, and enlightening.

Thank you for your response, this makes a lot of sense. From the few clips I've seen, he seemed pretty involved in rushes etc., giving me the impression that he had the tools to be a quality forward too.

Maybe he does have those tools, but it makes sense to try and develop him as a D if he has tools that make him especially dangerous from the point


As I said in a previous comment, really excited to see him develop. I've been a fan of the Habs since 2005, and it's the first time where I recall more than 1 prospect at a time doing big things in the juniors. Romanov and Poehling kinda did too, but it was one tournament iirc.
 
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abo9 said:
And if he'd be more impactful/successful as a forward?

Im not targetting Hutson specifically - time will tell - bit it's bizarre how stuck up we are with the position of players. We're not talking G to F or F to G or even W to D which would be a more difficult transition.
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I don’t think anyone who has played anywhere near pro hockey would tell you that it’s smart or even plain feasible to make such a transition. You’ll notice that all the players who make that transition in pro hockey are role players (Dandenault, Schubert, etc.) And those who aren’t role players are actually better at their natural position (Streit, Byfuglien, Burns).

Players develop their skillset for years. Hutson has nothing of a forward tbh. I don’t see why someone would say that. He is all about lateral movements, that entire part of his game (his best skillset) would be lost on the wing.
 
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Wow you guys are hard! You want the kid to grow & at the same time you’re beefing “he looks awkward“???? not many young d come out skating like Paul Coffey.

hey I love this kid….somehow he has me cheering for his team, crazy as that is to think of, lol. With his size, skill & IQ(hockey) he reminds me of teenage Theoren Fleury playing D. (minus dysfunction)

Hutson has a creative mind and when his body & teammates catch-up he’ll be dominant. He would easily be a 100 point D in the CHL with shooters up front.
Cheers
 
Ozmodiar said:
“Winger” comment was just a joke. … based on an earlier comment that was also a joke (I think). He’s D. He’ll be developed as a D. Let’s revisit in 3 years if he’s still not in the NHL.


Read where? Hopefully not this thread, because there’s been some doozies here lately. See backward crossover topic. :laugh:
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Not generally only here, its difficult for me to basé an opinion on youtube video as i dont see the whole game,only where the puck is, so thats pretty much reading in here and on the prospect section, i saw the comment on the backward crossover but i only saw his highlights moments, will check that lately but by his défensive game, i mean more the positionning, hes got no reach with his stick, not physical,and the positionning is not great from again what ive read, there are thing he can work on but unless he goes to India and they make a Dhalsim out of him
 
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abo9 said:
Straight, to the point, and enlightening.

Thank you for your response, this makes a lot of sense. From the few clips I've seen, he seemed pretty involved in rushes etc., giving me the impression that he had the tools to be a quality forward too.

Maybe he does have those tools, but it makes sense to try and develop him as a D if he has tools that make him especially dangerous from the point


As I said in a previous comment, really excited to see him develop. I've been a fan of the Habs since 2005, and it's the first time where I recall more than 1 prospect at a time doing big things in the juniors. Romanov and Poehling kinda did too, but it was one tournament iirc.
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For example , I think Mailloux is a better option if you wanna play the what D could play forward game than Lane, Lane's iQ is just too good while Mailloux is pretty much his weakness
 
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Jack Skellington said:
I've thought about this too but out of curiosity has it ever happened before? As in undersized offensive dman prospect switched to forward and actually excelled?
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Buff moved to forward for a while in Chicago. Undersized? lol … he was Hutson’s size when he was 7 years old.

Most position changes I can think of are the opposite - forward to D. Dandenault, Burns, Markov, Gardiner was F until high school. Even Federov played a little D in the NHL.
 
Yan Boisjoly said:
Not generally only here, its difficult for me to basé an opinion on youtube video as i dont see the whole game,only where the puck is, so thats pretty much reading in here and on the prospect section, i saw the comment on the backward crossover but i only saw his highlights moments, will check that lately but by his défensive game, i mean more the positionning, hes got no reach with his stick, not physical,and the positionning is not great from again what ive read, there are thing he can work on but unless he goes to India and they make a Dhalsim out of him
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I like this outside the box thinking. ;)

He’ll never be a physical force, but if he excels in other areas (transition, PP and ozone), they’ll find a spot for him.
 
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The Gr8 Dane said:
For example , I think Mailloux is a better option if you wanna play the what D could play forward game than Lane, Lane's iQ is just too good while Mailloux is pretty much his weakness
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Keeping in mind creativity & hockey IQ are not synonymous you can clearly see Hutson has both….if he had Logan’s Size he would have been #1 overall.
Fortunately, one could argue that not a lot of NHL D require or indeed have a “High hockey IQ”. Logan has an above average offensive IQ & he walks the blue line on the pp creatively, his size is formidable so sure I like him too. Both have the potential to be exceptional D in the near future.
 
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Belial said:
I can't believe he reached this level with bad technique...

It's the way that works for him!
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Yes, it does mean that there is more scope
for improvement. And I trust this player's
ability to learn, and willingness to put in the
work. This year in NCAA, is a good place to do that.
And more strength as he matures, should help that
prosses.
It's time to forget how tall he is not. Leg power
and core strength. And bones and connective tissue
being mature and strong. Good news is, training a
less mature body, should get you more "bang for
your buck.
 
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KevSkillz4 said:
Lane will be the best for passing to Caufield or Suzuki on the PP, that would be insane to watch that. They are going to have fun together.
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Yeah, but Hutson could be 2 seasons away. Because he should
be able to help our PP next year. IMO
If he could our PP specialist after one more season. He might
have the R shooting sniper on one half wall, and the R cannon
on the other wall. CC liked shooting off right side in NCAA, IIRC.
Cannon is better on left.
 
abo9 said:
Straight, to the point, and enlightening.

Thank you for your response, this makes a lot of sense. From the few clips I've seen, he seemed pretty involved in rushes etc., giving me the impression that he had the tools to be a quality forward too.

Maybe he does have those tools, but it makes sense to try and develop him as a D if he has tools that make him especially dangerous from the point


As I said in a previous comment, really excited to see him develop. I've been a fan of the Habs since 2005, and it's the first time where I recall more than 1 prospect at a time doing big things in the juniors. Romanov and Poehling kinda did too, but it was one tournament iirc.
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Ok. I'll start with a slight apology. There is a series of posts
here that have a useful point. IMO. But I'm too lazy to address
all. So yours is interesting.
Hutson ,to me, has skills as a D, that are only mistakes for other
D -men. I think that he will need a creative coach at NHL level.
Positional mistakes for D, may be best play for him. I also have
a hard time seeing D zone positioning on video. But it works
for him.
Along the opp. blue line, he may be best I've seen, in more
than 50 years of watching hockey. That shift against Ger' where
the rest of the US team changed, and Hutson was keeping the puck
in the zone. And staying in the zone when he doesn't havepuck support,
and sometimes nobody to cover behind him. Those Are bad mistakes
for D, but they are just strong smart play from Hutson.
The game is evolving, and Hutson may the leading edge of that
evolution. Perhaps, other D, and one forward need to skate back
well. And LH stays to try and hold the opponents blueline.
Is this enough ranting for today?
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
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If Bonino is really 6'1, Huston is at least 5'10.
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Habaddict said:
Ok. I'll start with a slight apology. There is a series of posts
here that have a useful point. IMO. But I'm too lazy to address
all. So yours is interesting.
Hutson ,to me, has skills as a D, that are only mistakes for other
D -men. I think that he will need a creative coach at NHL level.
Positional mistakes for D, may be best play for him. I also have
a hard time seeing D zone positioning on video. But it works
for him.
Along the opp. blue line, he may be best I've seen, in more
than 50 years of watching hockey. That shift against Ger' where
the rest of the US team changed, and Hutson was keeping the puck
in the zone. And staying in the zone when he doesn't havepuck support,
and sometimes nobody to cover behind him. Those Are bad mistakes
for D, but they are just strong smart play from Hutson.
The game is evolving, and Hutson may the leading edge of that
evolution. Perhaps, other D, and one forward need to skate back
well. And LH stays to try and hold the opponents blueline.
Is this enough ranting for today?
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The game is evolving fast, look at guys like Sergashev , Montour , Rielly , Ekholm.

These Dmen get in deep and rotate in the ozone with their wingers/c's more than ever before in the NHL. Its a good time for Lane to enter the league.
I believe MSL believes in these concepts in the offensive zone so i'm not too worried
 
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The Gr8 Dane said:
The game is evolving fast, look at guys like Sergashev , Montour , Rielly , Ekholm.

These Dmen get in deep and rotate in the ozone with their wingers/c's more than ever before in the NHL. Its a good time for Lane to enter the league.
I believe MSL believes in these concepts in the offensive zone so i'm not too worried
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Agree, obviosly(sp?}. I'm a little concerned that Houle is not
in favor. And that may not be best for LH next year.
 
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Habaddict said:
Agree, obviosly(sp?}. I'm a little concerned that Houle is not
in favor. And that may not be best for LH next year.
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Hopefully theres a buy in from everyone in the organization. We'll see I guess.

MSL is one guy that I would be very surprised if he gave players a hard time for their height or for being creative/dynamic.

But I'm just going off of how he was as a player and his career, not because I heard him say it or anything
 
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