Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

dcyhabs

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Bro he's like 4 feet tall look at his little legs.

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Could be a great hockey body. I saw an article from some scout that says physically wingspan is good, as is a solid trunk, but the ideal is little stubby legs. Less weight to move per stride, less leverage fir injuries, smaller strides make for easier direction changes.

No idea if there is value to this idea.
 

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Why 2 games? I thought the final is one game winner take all.
Tournament. Boston university should make the tournament. So he has the final of the conference tournament and at least one tournament game or more.

He needs two more points to break Brian leetch modern era ncaa record.
 

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Could be a great hockey body. I saw an article from some scout that says physically wingspan is good, as is a solid trunk, but the ideal is little stubby legs. Less weight to move per stride, less leverage fir injuries, smaller strides make for easier direction changes.

No idea if there is value to this idea.
I don't know anything about his body I was just making fun of this picture

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Don't forget we actually have skill coaches now. Adam Nichols keeps getting credited by players as being an immense help to them , and I am sure Nichols will help get Hutson to become the best player he can be. Hopefully that translates into an impact player. Time will tell, but so far so great.
 

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He has a long stick...very good reach for his size.

It helps him to move the puck away from players on his strong side a bit like Mcdavid.

Many players are better to shift on their backhand to beat an opponant.

Guys like Hutson is doing it on both side easily
 
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He has a long stick...very good reach for his size.

It helps him to move the puck away from players on his strong side a bit like Mcdavid.

Many players are better to shift on their backhand to beat an opponant.

Guys like Hutson is doing it on both side easily

He is definitely not doing it on both sides.....this last game perfectly illustrates it for those who know what to look for. He is a nightmare for his own team at times defensively, fortunately there are not very many good players in Hockey East to take advantage like the kids at the WJC did and had him stapled to the bench for long stretches.

He quite literally can not backskate at all, he will go into a glide but the second he is about to get beat wide which is almost every time he either fully turns or awkwardly side shuffles. He even flat out fell the one time that he tried to pivot at speed. You never see him in a remotely acceptable back skating posture where his thighs should be parallel to the ice.

He likely just needs to add some lower body strength especially in his thighs and he needs to grow an ass so that he will be able to implement the instruction that he is currently unable to execute. He is entirely unable to perform back crossovers which leaves him in a perilous situation when defending the rush. He is smart enough to take good routes which helps to somewhat mitigate the terrible back skating but he will need to fix this (and I think he will) if he has any hope of playing in the NHL.

This game like the vast majority of his games highlights his incredible puck skill, creativity, vision and intelligence as well as his glaring skating deficiencies. Most of the time that he is twisting and turning, a bigger/stronger/faster dman easily shields the puck/fends off the forechecker and gains the outside with an extra step. While many are wowed by this glaring example of inefficiency it is a problem that needs to be improved upon. Much like Subban, most of Hutson's crazy maneuvering up the ice is due to a lack of foot speed although P.K. developed the one handed pylon turn to help him navigate past forecheckers with his strength and balance.

Now I wait for the hoarde to entirely ignore the positive comments and fixate on the negative because it doesn't fit the perfect fairy tale. So please remember that I like the kid and would absolutely bet on him being a significant offensive contributor in the NHL. He just has a lot of work ahead of him still.
 
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I just want to remember for all Habs fan, they selected this gem at 62th overall... yess 62!!!!
Lecavalier said in La presse that they really liked the player but didn't have much models of 5'8 150lbs defencemen in the NHL to base their projections on, so they feared his game wouldn't translate to pro. He now believes he would go top-15 in a redraft.
 

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There's maybe 8 instances where the point Hutson got was a secondary assist that could have been anyone else.

The rest of the plays are masterful displays of skill to get his team on the scoresheet.

Really impressed. early on in the montage, where Hutson, with pressure applied on him by an opponent, feathers a pass into open ice near the opposing net to nobody at first, but a line mate then swoops in to where the puck had been sent for a scoring chance.

How he saw this as the play, with an opponent in tight on him, is bewildering.

Nobody was where he sent the pass -- no defenders -- because no attackers were there and this was not an immediately dangerous spot for the puck to be, but the timing, the strength of the pass -- everything -- was out of this world.

Overall, in this montage, we see that Hutson can, first, see passing opportunities many wouldn't but, secondly, can then get the puck there through traffic.

Helluva playmaker and he can also score, despite not having the hardest shot in the world.

Lots to like about this kid's skill set and how it can translate to the NHL. He's got eyes around his head and the ability to do something with the puck based on that vision.
 
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He is definitely not doing it on both sides.....this last game perfectly illustrates it for those who know what to look for. He is a nightmare for his own team at times defensively, fortunately there are not very many good players in Hockey East to take advantage like the kids at the WJC did and had him stapled to the bench for long stretches.

He quite literally can not backskate at all, he will go into a glide but the second he is about to get beat wide which is almost every time he either fully turns or awkwardly side shuffles. He even flat out fell the one time that he tried to pivot at speed. You never see him in a remotely acceptable back skating posture where his thighs should be parallel to the ice.

He likely just needs to add some lower body strength especially in his thighs and he needs to grow an ass so that he will be able to implement the instruction that he is currently unable to execute. He is entirely unable to perform back crossovers which leaves him in a perilous situation when defending the rush. He is smart enough to take good routes which helps to somewhat mitigate the terrible back skating but he will need to fix this (and I think he will) if he has any hope of playing in the NHL.

This game like the vast majority of his games highlights his incredible puck skill, creativity, vision and intelligence as well as his glaring skating deficiencies. Most of the time that he is twisting and turning, a bigger/stronger/faster dman easily shields the puck/fends off the forechecker and gains the outside with an extra step. While many are wowed by this glaring example of inefficiency it is a problem that needs to be improved upon. Much like Subban, most of Hutson's crazy maneuvering up the ice is due to a lack of foot speed although P.K. developed the one handed pylon turn to help him navigate past forecheckers with his strength and balance.

Now I wait for the hoarde to entirely ignore the positive comments and fixate on the negative because it doesn't fit the perfect fairy tale. So please remember that I like the kid and would absolutely bet on him being a significant offensive contributor in the NHL. He just has a lot of work ahead of him still.
100% agree with you and it’s his one major major thing he needs to fix to make it to the nhl. I can skate better than him backwards and I can’t skate at all.

He gets easily beat to the outside because of it. You can find examples of it every game. As talent he plays against gets better it will become more glaring, the world juniors a prime example.

Having said all of that, put him with the development team all off season, he is top 5 talent otherwise.
 
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He is definitely not doing it on both sides.....this last game perfectly illustrates it for those who know what to look for. He is a nightmare for his own team at times defensively, fortunately there are not very many good players in Hockey East to take advantage like the kids at the WJC did and had him stapled to the bench for long stretches.

He quite literally can not backskate at all, he will go into a glide but the second he is about to get beat wide which is almost every time he either fully turns or awkwardly side shuffles. He even flat out fell the one time that he tried to pivot at speed. You never see him in a remotely acceptable back skating posture where his thighs should be parallel to the ice.

He likely just needs to add some lower body strength especially in his thighs and he needs to grow an ass so that he will be able to implement the instruction that he is currently unable to execute. He is entirely unable to perform back crossovers which leaves him in a perilous situation when defending the rush. He is smart enough to take good routes which helps to somewhat mitigate the terrible back skating but he will need to fix this (and I think he will) if he has any hope of playing in the NHL.

This game like the vast majority of his games highlights his incredible puck skill, creativity, vision and intelligence as well as his glaring skating deficiencies. Most of the time that he is twisting and turning, a bigger/stronger/faster dman easily shields the puck/fends off the forechecker and gains the outside with an extra step. While many are wowed by this glaring example of inefficiency it is a problem that needs to be improved upon. Much like Subban, most of Hutson's crazy maneuvering up the ice is due to a lack of foot speed although P.K. developed the one handed pylon turn to help him navigate past forecheckers with his strength and balance.

Now I wait for the hoarde to entirely ignore the positive comments and fixate on the negative because it doesn't fit the perfect fairy tale. So please remember that I like the kid and would absolutely bet on him being a significant offensive contributor in the NHL. He just has a lot of work ahead of him still.
Nobody is overlooking the positives -- they just agree.

Your negatives are overblown beyond what they really are, so posters harp on those.

Hutson is not a perfect D, but he brings so much upside that, with the correct pairing partner, he'd be perfect even the way he is with the small limitations to his game.
 
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He is definitely not doing it on both sides.....this last game perfectly illustrates it for those who know what to look for. He is a nightmare for his own team at times defensively, fortunately there are not very many good players in Hockey East to take advantage like the kids at the WJC did and had him stapled to the bench for long stretches.

He quite literally can not backskate at all, he will go into a glide but the second he is about to get beat wide which is almost every time he either fully turns or awkwardly side shuffles. He even flat out fell the one time that he tried to pivot at speed. You never see him in a remotely acceptable back skating posture where his thighs should be parallel to the ice.

He likely just needs to add some lower body strength especially in his thighs and he needs to grow an ass so that he will be able to implement the instruction that he is currently unable to execute. He is entirely unable to perform back crossovers which leaves him in a perilous situation when defending the rush. He is smart enough to take good routes which helps to somewhat mitigate the terrible back skating but he will need to fix this (and I think he will) if he has any hope of playing in the NHL.

This game like the vast majority of his games highlights his incredible puck skill, creativity, vision and intelligence as well as his glaring skating deficiencies. Most of the time that he is twisting and turning, a bigger/stronger/faster dman easily shields the puck/fends off the forechecker and gains the outside with an extra step. While many are wowed by this glaring example of inefficiency it is a problem that needs to be improved upon. Much like Subban, most of Hutson's crazy maneuvering up the ice is due to a lack of foot speed although P.K. developed the one handed pylon turn to help him navigate past forecheckers with his strength and balance.

Now I wait for the hoarde to entirely ignore the positive comments and fixate on the negative because it doesn't fit the perfect fairy tale. So please remember that I like the kid and would absolutely bet on him being a significant offensive contributor in the NHL. He just has a lot of work ahead of him still.
By both side I was meaning ...stickhandling.....he is good to beat an opposant on his strong side and on his backhand easily
 

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Noibody is overlooking the positives -- they just agree.

Your negatives are overblown beyond what they really are, so posters harp on those.

Hutson is not a perfect D, but he brings so much upside that, with the correct pairing partner, he'd be perfect even the way he is with the small limitations to his game.

And where exactly do you disagree? You can't possibly take issue that he is completely unable to backskate. You arbitrarily proclaim my observations to be overblown yet any real scout would back me up entirely.

I have had plenty of posters tell me that he is fast and his backskating issues are overblown....they are egregiously wrong on both accounts but like many in today's society they parrot what they want to be true rather than what is actually true. They then form ill-informed mobs to attack anyone who dares taint the picture that they have painted. Facts be damned when the masses have found a demi-god.

 
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Hutson is much smaller than Lapointe was.

I found the right comparable for Hutson yesterday. It's Girard. Man does Girard play a lot like Hutson!

BTW, Lapointe was not the third violin/wheel, LOL. He was the guy who actually carried whoever was number four on his back.

Guy did slow down with injuries after 1979, but from 71-76 was our #1D, and even after Robinson broke out, and even during Larry's first Norris season and +120 year, it was Lapointe and Savard on the ice to kill off the last minute of a 1 goal victory.

Girard play a more conservative game but he has a very good hockey sense with good skills, using the puck a lot better, more effective, than Hutson. Girard is a defenseman who can bring some offense but I see him more a la Markov a guy using is skill and is hockey sense without going all-in on attack; the fact he play for Colorado doesn't help, playing behind Makar, Toews and Byram for a defenseman with some offense it's not the best.

For Hutson, he has some flaws to work on his all around game to be effective as Girard and he plays the game like a russian wheels for the most part of the time. Hutson is more dangerous than Girard with or without the puck. With the kind of team we try to built, he will play a major role on offensive.

To resume at the time of they got draft each, I saw Girard as a small defenseman with some offense and I see Hutson as a small defenseman with a forward mentality who need some time to work on his game but a offensive dynamo. Prospect (Girard) vs Suspect (Hutson)!

Hutson can make the big show only with is offensive with some sheltering ice time in the worst way but Girard need to be a all around defenseman if he want to have a long career; the two has some of the same NHL tools but not a copy-paste!

We didn't see often that kind of defenseman who play the game like that : Brent Burns, Erik Karlsson, Sandis Ozolinsh, Paul Coffey, Phil Housley is some of the name I have in head the way they generates offense and be dangerous with or without the puck playing like a 4th forward.

At every level, Hutson has started with 2 strikes with the prehistoric talk "he is too small too play" but each time he finish as the main guy on his team passing the older and bigger one because he is simply a lot better at playing hockey.

The NHL is only the next step where he will prove at everyone how freaking dumb they are maybe they will have reason on the point you can't play him like everyone else but you can't do what he is doing and I would not bet against him because like he has do it before he will find a way to be effective.

Even Scotty Bowman notice this kid at a hockey tournament in 2013 ... Because of this tweet, the family of Hutson take his career more seriously and believing he can achieve something and we are here today at 2 points to break the Brian Leetch record for a NCAA Rookie Defenseman and the reason why is team will be playing on Finals!!

MONTRÉAL – Le vénérable Scotty Bowman a publié 213 messages sur Twitter depuis son inscription sur la plateforme en 2010. Deux d'entre eux concernent Lane Hutson.

« Dans un tournoi à l'Université Notre Dame, j'ai vu une jeune étoile montante née en 2004 du nom de Hutson », écrivait Bowman en septembre 2013. Le joueur qui avait attiré son attention était alors âgé de 9 ans.

« Il était plus jeune que tous les autres garçons et laissez-moi vous dire que c'était quelque chose à voir. Le dernier que j'ai vu patiner aussi bien à cet âge est Todd Marchant d'East Amherst NY. Wow! Quel plaisir de les voir jouer. »

Ironiquement, ces quelques mots ont peut-être ouvert la voie à l'arrivée de la jeune merveille, près de neuf ans après qu'ils aient été écrits, dans la même ville où leur auteur a paradé cinq fois avec la coupe Stanley. Rob Hutson, en tout cas, les a pris au sérieux.

« C'est à ce moment-là qu'on s'est dit qu'on devrait peut-être prendre tous les moyens qu'on pouvait pour le "kid" », relate le père du polarisant espoir du Canadien dans une conversation avec RDS.

PS: Lapointe is the guy I love the most from the Big 3 nothing bad about him and I only want to said to use him like Lapointe at the time when you need a goal or offense because they bring something others can't. Every great team have that kind of "specialists" on PP, PK, Offense, Defense etc ... and Hutson can be a elite one!
 

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Should have put deleted, no Lane related.

Girard play a more conservative game but he has a very good hockey sense with good skills, using the puck a lot better, more effective, than Hutson. Girard is a defenseman who can bring some offense but I see him more a la Markov a guy using is skill and is hockey sense without going all-in on attack; the fact he play for Colorado doesn't help, playing behind Makar, Toews and Byram for a defenseman with some offense it's not the best.

For Hutson, he has some flaws to work on his all around game to be effective as Girard and he plays the game like a russian wheels for the most part of the time. Hutson is more dangerous than Girard with or without the puck. With the kind of team we try to built, he will play a major role on offensive.

To resume at the time of they got draft each, I saw Girard as a small defenseman with some offense and I see Hutson as a small defenseman with a forward mentality who need some time to work on his game but a offensive dynamo. Prospect (Girard) vs Suspect (Hutson)!

Hutson can make the big show only with is offensive with some sheltering ice time in the worst way but Girard need to be a all around defenseman if he want to have a long career; the two has some of the same NHL tools but not a copy-paste!

We didn't see often that kind of defenseman who play the game like that : Brent Burns, Erik Karlsson, Sandis Ozolinsh, Paul Coffey, Phil Housley is some of the name I have in head the way they generates offense and be dangerous with or without the puck playing like a 4th forward.

At every level, Hutson has started with 2 strikes with the prehistoric talk "he is too small too play" but each time he finish as the main guy on his team passing the older and bigger one because he is simply a lot better at playing hockey.

The NHL is only the next step where he will prove at everyone how freaking dumb they are maybe they will have reason on the point you can't play him like everyone else but you can't do what he is doing and I would not bet against him because like he has do it before he will find a way to be effective.

Even Scotty Bowman notice this kid at a hockey tournament in 2013 ... Because of this tweet, the family of Hutson take his career more seriously and believing he can achieve something and we are here today at 2 points to break the Brian Leetch record for a NCAA Rookie Defenseman and the reason why is team will be playing on Finals!!

MONTRÉAL – Le vénérable Scotty Bowman a publié 213 messages sur Twitter depuis son inscription sur la plateforme en 2010. Deux d'entre eux concernent Lane Hutson.

« Dans un tournoi à l'Université Notre Dame, j'ai vu une jeune étoile montante née en 2004 du nom de Hutson », écrivait Bowman en septembre 2013. Le joueur qui avait attiré son attention était alors âgé de 9 ans.

« Il était plus jeune que tous les autres garçons et laissez-moi vous dire que c'était quelque chose à voir. Le dernier que j'ai vu patiner aussi bien à cet âge est Todd Marchant d'East Amherst NY. Wow! Quel plaisir de les voir jouer. »

Ironiquement, ces quelques mots ont peut-être ouvert la voie à l'arrivée de la jeune merveille, près de neuf ans après qu'ils aient été écrits, dans la même ville où leur auteur a paradé cinq fois avec la coupe Stanley. Rob Hutson, en tout cas, les a pris au sérieux.

« C'est à ce moment-là qu'on s'est dit qu'on devrait peut-être prendre tous les moyens qu'on pouvait pour le "kid" », relate le père du polarisant espoir du Canadien dans une conversation avec RDS.

PS: Lapointe is the guy I love the most from the Big 3 nothing bad about him and I only want to said to use him like Lapointe at the time when you need a goal or offense because they bring something others can't. Every great team have that kind of "specialists" on PP, PK, Offense, Defense etc ... and Hutson can be a elite one!
Girard is no way as good as Hutson, Hutson is one step up.
 

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He is definitely not doing it on both sides.....this last game perfectly illustrates it for those who know what to look for. He is a nightmare for his own team at times defensively, fortunately there are not very many good players in Hockey East to take advantage like the kids at the WJC did and had him stapled to the bench for long stretches.

He quite literally can not backskate at all, he will go into a glide but the second he is about to get beat wide which is almost every time he either fully turns or awkwardly side shuffles. He even flat out fell the one time that he tried to pivot at speed. You never see him in a remotely acceptable back skating posture where his thighs should be parallel to the ice.

He likely just needs to add some lower body strength especially in his thighs and he needs to grow an ass so that he will be able to implement the instruction that he is currently unable to execute. He is entirely unable to perform back crossovers which leaves him in a perilous situation when defending the rush. He is smart enough to take good routes which helps to somewhat mitigate the terrible back skating but he will need to fix this (and I think he will) if he has any hope of playing in the NHL.

This game like the vast majority of his games highlights his incredible puck skill, creativity, vision and intelligence as well as his glaring skating deficiencies. Most of the time that he is twisting and turning, a bigger/stronger/faster dman easily shields the puck/fends off the forechecker and gains the outside with an extra step. While many are wowed by this glaring example of inefficiency it is a problem that needs to be improved upon. Much like Subban, most of Hutson's crazy maneuvering up the ice is due to a lack of foot speed although P.K. developed the one handed pylon turn to help him navigate past forecheckers with his strength and balance.

Now I wait for the hoarde to entirely ignore the positive comments and fixate on the negative because it doesn't fit the perfect fairy tale. So please remember that I like the kid and would absolutely bet on him being a significant offensive contributor in the NHL. He just has a lot of work ahead of him still.
Jeez, it's so refreshing to read a realistic take on this kid.
 

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He is definitely not doing it on both sides.....this last game perfectly illustrates it for those who know what to look for. He is a nightmare for his own team at times defensively, fortunately there are not very many good players in Hockey East to take advantage like the kids at the WJC did and had him stapled to the bench for long stretches.

He quite literally can not backskate at all, he will go into a glide but the second he is about to get beat wide which is almost every time he either fully turns or awkwardly side shuffles. He even flat out fell the one time that he tried to pivot at speed. You never see him in a remotely acceptable back skating posture where his thighs should be parallel to the ice.

He likely just needs to add some lower body strength especially in his thighs and he needs to grow an ass so that he will be able to implement the instruction that he is currently unable to execute. He is entirely unable to perform back crossovers which leaves him in a perilous situation when defending the rush. He is smart enough to take good routes which helps to somewhat mitigate the terrible back skating but he will need to fix this (and I think he will) if he has any hope of playing in the NHL.

This game like the vast majority of his games highlights his incredible puck skill, creativity, vision and intelligence as well as his glaring skating deficiencies. Most of the time that he is twisting and turning, a bigger/stronger/faster dman easily shields the puck/fends off the forechecker and gains the outside with an extra step. While many are wowed by this glaring example of inefficiency it is a problem that needs to be improved upon. Much like Subban, most of Hutson's crazy maneuvering up the ice is due to a lack of foot speed although P.K. developed the one handed pylon turn to help him navigate past forecheckers with his strength and balance.

Now I wait for the hoarde to entirely ignore the positive comments and fixate on the negative because it doesn't fit the perfect fairy tale. So please remember that I like the kid and would absolutely bet on him being a significant offensive contributor in the NHL. He just has a lot of work ahead of him still.
Almost every 19 years old hockey players have flaws in their game, obviously. You're right about his flaws but if he didn't have any flaws he would have been selected first overall in the draft. His strengths overshadow his flaws by a lot.
 

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