Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[WeThreeKings]

The problem was never what management wants to do, but if the Terriers reach the final of Frozen Four. It's on April 13th, Habs last two games are April 15th-16th.

Possible but I don't think Caron is getting them to the final.

 

[HomaridII]

Possible but I don't think Caron is getting them to the final.

100% agree here. Too inconsistent.

 

[HomaridII]

 

[BaseballCoach]

Was Krug on both Boston cup winning teams?

1970 and 1972? Nope

 

[SergeConstantin74]

Future Habs teammates? We wish...

 

[Steve Shutt]

What's better for Hutson in the long run:
A) Return to Boston College for 24-25 season
B) Sign and play a full season in Laval
C) Sign and start the season in Laval, call him up if he looks ready or we have injuries
D) Sign and start in Montreal

I'm under the impression that the lighter 40 game College Schedule gives players more time to hit the gym and build strength and conditioning

 

[Sunfyre]

What's better for Hutson in the long run:
A) Return to Boston College for 24-25 season
B) Sign and play a full season in Laval
C) Sign and start the season in Laval, call him up if he looks ready or we have injuries
D) Sign and start in Montreal

I'm under the impression that the lighter 40 game College Schedule gives players more time to hit the gym and build strength and conditioning

For him probably staying one more year in college…for Montreal package him in a deal and trade him

 

[26Mats]

What's better for Hutson in the long run:
A) Return to Boston College for 24-25 season
B) Sign and play a full season in Laval
C) Sign and start the season in Laval, call him up if he looks ready or we have injuries
D) Sign and start in Montreal

I'm under the impression that the lighter 40 game College Schedule gives players more time to hit the gym and build strength and conditioning

A)

 

[WeThreeKings]

What's better for Hutson in the long run:
A) Return to Boston College for 24-25 season
B) Sign and play a full season in Laval
C) Sign and start the season in Laval, call him up if he looks ready or we have injuries
D) Sign and start in Montreal

I'm under the impression that the lighter 40 game College Schedule gives players more time to hit the gym and build strength and conditioning

Not A - he's dominated that level for 2 years now. There's nothing more to learn except complacency.

What's going to happen is sign with the Habs, play a few games with the Habs to end the year, then he will have to earn a spot during camp, and if he doesn't then it's Laval with call ups when warranted.

 

[26Mats]

Not A - he's dominated that level for 2 years now. There's nothing more to learn except complacency.

What's going to happen is sign with the Habs, play a few games with the Habs to end the year, then he will have to earn a spot during camp, and if he doesn't then it's Laval with call ups when warranted.

This what will happen. It's the same path as Sean Farrell's.

If not the NCAA, I'd have him play in a less physical league than the NHL and AHL purely to prevent injuries that could hamper his development as he continues to bulk up. Note, Farrell has missed significant time this year due to injury, unsurprisingly.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Ok so people want talent and I see the idea of trading Lane freaking Hutson?!?!?!

No way.

This guy will succeed 100% at NHL level, Quinn Hughes have actually the same size of Hutson. Hutson put better numbers than him at NCAA. Hutson have too much IQ to don't become a really really good NHL player.

This guy is a real deal, come on guys, you can't be serious.

If Torey Krug can have a great career in NHL (Hutson have much more talent than Krug), Hutson can easily do that aswell.

Jared Spurgeon, Sam Girard... (Hutson have much talent than both aswell).

 

[Sunfyre]

Ok so people want talent and I see the idea of trading Lane freaking Hutson?!?!?!

No way.

This guy will succeed 100% at NHL level, Quinn Hughes have actually the same size of Hutson. Hutson put better numbers than him at NCAA. Hutson have too much IQ to don't become a really really good NHL player.

This guy is a real deal, come on guys, you can't be serious.

If Torey Krug can have a great career in NHL (Hutson have much more talent than Krug), Hutson can easily do that aswell.

Jared Spurgeon, Sam Girard... (Hutson have much talent than both aswell).

He’s talented alright, no question. The difference is where you see a Quinn Hughes I see a Shayne Gostisbehere. The lack of elite skating combined with his size is most likely going to limit him at the pro level. Going to be most likely a heavy sheltered 3paring guy with PP1 impact. His value might drop significantly after turning pro where his limitations going to be seen in plain sight. I hope I am wrong on this and happily eat crow if I am wrong. Would prefer after the rebuild is over to end up with a big mobile 6 on defense

 

[admiralcadillac]

Both cups? They won one in 2010-2011... and no, he wasn't. lol.

Yeah I was thinking of St Louis but he was signed to replace pietrangelo

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Ok so people want talent and I see the idea of trading Lane freaking Hutson?!?!?!

No way.

This guy will succeed 100% at NHL level, Quinn Hughes have actually the same size of Hutson. Hutson put better numbers than him at NCAA. Hutson have too much IQ to don't become a really really good NHL player.

This guy is a real deal, come on guys, you can't be serious.

If Torey Krug can have a great career in NHL (Hutson have much more talent than Krug), Hutson can easily do that aswell.

Jared Spurgeon, Sam Girard... (Hutson have much talent than both aswell).

A lot of false equivalencies and zero context in these comparisons.

Lane has made some subtle defensive improvements over the last couple of months but still has some glaring issues and it will be really interesting to see him attempt to adapt to the pro game. He has the brains, hands and puck skills of an elite NHL dman but he is the smallest dman to have attempted to play in the NHL in decades and he still struggles mightily with his back skating.

 

[Gustave]

Ok so people want talent and I see the idea of trading Lane freaking Hutson?!?!?!

No way.

This guy will succeed 100% at NHL level, Quinn Hughes have actually the same size of Hutson. Hutson put better numbers than him at NCAA. Hutson have too much IQ to don't become a really really good NHL player.

This guy is a real deal, come on guys, you can't be serious.

If Torey Krug can have a great career in NHL (Hutson have much more talent than Krug), Hutson can easily do that aswell.

Jared Spurgeon, Sam Girard... (Hutson have much talent than both aswell).

Just to play devil’s advocate here; a hypothetical; my theory on trades is that no one is exempt from them, in the sense that the Hawks lose their mind and want to give you Bedard for Lane, you do it.

I get your point when you say (I’ll paraphrase) « Seems like folks want to actively shop him », it would be unwise.

But, say you look at the makeup of the team, and see that a certain player somewhere is a guy you really want for the rebuild (a core player obv), you call up and they ask for Lane, you have to consider it seriously.

We have an abundance of D prospects, it might be wise to trade one in the case where you have a guy in mind or even a certain 1st overall pick (let’s imagine) and you can make a package to move up.

He does have value right now (because he’s so goddamn good!) so we have to foresee what can be done with the cards we hold.

 

[alasania94]

Will he be coming over to play a few games with the Habs?

 

[CHwest]

Ok so people want talent and I see the idea of trading Lane freaking Hutson?!?!?!

No way.

This guy will succeed 100% at NHL level, Quinn Hughes have actually the same size of Hutson. Hutson put better numbers than him at NCAA. Hutson have too much IQ to don't become a really really good NHL player.

This guy is a real deal, come on guys, you can't be serious.

If Torey Krug can have a great career in NHL (Hutson have much more talent than Krug), Hutson can easily do that aswell.

Jared Spurgeon, Sam Girard... (Hutson have much talent than both aswell).

Krug can skate backwards.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Just to play devil’s advocate here; a hypothetical; my theory on trades is that no one is exempt from them, in the sense that the Hawks lose their mind and want to give you Bedard for Lane, you do it.

I get your point when you say (I’ll paraphrase) « Seems like folks want to actively shop him », it would be unwise.

But, say you look at the makeup of the team, and see that a certain player somewhere is a guy you really want for the rebuild (a core player obv), you call up and they ask for Lane, you have to consider it seriously.

We have an abundance of D prospects, it might be wise to trade one in the case where you have a guy in mind or even a certain 1st overall pick (let’s imagine) and you can make a package to move up.

He does have value right now (because he’s so goddamn good!) so we have to foresee what can be done with the cards we hold.

I think he’s the kind of talent that if you trade him, you’ll regret it.

I get that maybe some of what he’s doing won’t translate but he’s competitive, smart and talented. If we trade him away and he becomes a superstar…. I’ll lose my shit man.

I’ll trust Hughes to know what he’s doing. I hope he doesn’t trade this guy.

 

[Goalfield13]

I don't think Laval is a good idea. He needs to bulk up a bit. If he is still sub 170, he should stay another year in the NCAA.

 

[26Mats]

I don't think Laval is a good idea. He needs to bulk up a bit. If he is still sub 170, he should stay another year in the NCAA.

I think so as well.

But Hughes has made it clear, he's signing and turning pro as soon as his NCAA season is done this year.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don't think Laval is a good idea. He needs to bulk up a bit. If he is still sub 170, he should stay another year in the NCAA.

I believe he’s at 162 lbs right now. That’s pretty light. Hopefully he can get close to 170lbs over the summer.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I don't think Laval is a good idea. He needs to bulk up a bit. If he is still sub 170, he should stay another year in the NCAA.

For me, there's nothing left in the NCAA for him. He needs to get to the next level in order to be challenged and progress. If they send him back to college for another year simply to bulk up, then it's a wasted year because he can do that in Montreal or Laval.

I know in the NCAA, there's more time between games to train. But they can still work out a program for him while in the NHL or AHL.

Not to mention if he is signed to an ELC after his college year is done, then Montreal's trainers will have a closer look at him and give him an off-season training program.

You also look at Jared Spurgeon in Minnesota, he carved out a good NHL career and he stands at 5'9" and 165 lbs. BU lists Hutson at 5'10" and 162 lbs. He will bulk up, but he won't all of a sudden be 180 lbs.

 

[26Mats]

For me, there's nothing left in the NCAA for him. He needs to get to the next level in order to be challenged and progress. If they send him back to college for another year simply to bulk up, then it's a wasted year because he can do that in Montreal or Laval.

I know in the NCAA, there's more time between games to train. But they can still work out a program for him while in the NHL or AHL.

Not to mention if he is signed to an ELC after his college year is done, then Montreal's trainers will have a closer look at him and give him an off-season training program.

You also look at Jared Spurgeon in Minnesota, he carved out a good NHL career and he stands at 5'9" and 165 lbs. BU lists Hutson at 5'10" and 162 lbs. He will bulk up, but he won't all of a sudden be 180 lbs.

I have my concerns about him getting injured with his small frame at the pro level.

Can't bulk up with post concussion syndrome or a broken collarbone.

 

[larek]

I'm hoping in next few years he can get to 178 ish

 

[Adam Michaels]

I have my concerns about him getting injured with his small frame at the pro level.

Can't bulk up with post concussion syndrome or a broken collarbone.

He'll be fine. He's not some weakling who needs to be put in bubble wrap in order to play in the NHL.

Guys bigger than him have had concussion issues or broken bones. It's not because he's smaller he will be more or less likely to get injured the way every other player in hockey could get injured no matter the size.