Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

[Miller Time]

Agree to disagree. He's a phenomenal talent and he'll learn to make less risks over time, but he's not there yet.

Yup.

And, he's already ahead of Hamilton, Casey & Hughes in that department... fyi

You just like making false posts without backing them up, huh?

Nope. Back up is right there to see... including in this most recent post.

Very unreasonable to claim player A is "too careless with the puck", while said player is far better at puck possession (give away to take away ratio) than other players one claims are "better defenders", especially when said opinion is backed up presumably because of a (mis)perceived lower risk approach to puck management

Hot takes are finally and all, but that kind of inconsistency reflects poor reasoning. Get it?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Yup.

And, he's already ahead of Hamilton, Casey & Hughes in that department... fyi

Hamilton, yes. Not Casey or Hughes

Nope. Back up is right there to see... including in this most recent post.

Very unreasonable to claim player A is "too careless with the puck", while said player is far better at puck possession (give away to take away ratio) than other players one claims are "better defenders", especially when said opinion is backed up presumably because of a (mis)perceived lower risk approach to puck management

Hot takes are finally and all, but that kind of inconsistency reflects poor reasoning. Get it?

Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

Not like it matters, that post was still after you claimed most of my posts in this thread were unreasonable, a claim you have continually refused to support.

So I'll give you one last chance to support your statement. Otherwise we're done here.

 

[Miller Time]

Hamilton, yes. Not Casey or Hughes

Statistically speaking this is incorrect.

Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

That's an unreasonable and poorly informed perspective.

Not like it matters, that post was still after you claimed most of my posts in this thread were unreasonable, a claim you have continually refused to support.

Nope. Just read and everything should be clear.

So I'll give you one last chance to support your statement. Otherwise we're done here.

Bye

 

[dgibb10]

Hamilton, yes. Not Casey or Hughes

Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

Not like it matters, that post was still after you claimed most of my posts in this thread were unreasonable, a claim you have continually refused to support.

So I'll give you one last chance to support your statement. Otherwise we're done here.

Giveaway and Takeaway stats, which were horrific and not indicative of much before, are even worse this year in how they're tracked lmao.

 

[bud12]

Another strong showing from that bum!!!!

Oh, and since we have nj fans coming in each times Hutson make a mistake, can we look how bad was Hughes on the empty net tonight.

 

[FerrisRox]

Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

I'll bite.

Please explain why the giveaway to takeaway ratio doesn't represent anything.

Giveaway and Takeaway stats, which were horrific and not indicative of much before, are even worse this year in how they're tracked lmao.

Please explain why they were "horrific and not indicative of much."

(And for the love of God, just answer the question I asked you and leave the goalposts alone.)

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

just the most random pissing contest

 

[dgibb10]

I'll bite.

Please explain why the giveaway to takeaway ratio doesn't represent anything.



Please explain why they were "horrific and not indicative of much."

(And for the love of God, just answer the question I asked you and leave the goalposts alone.)

Because there is no real defined, consistent criteria for them.

The tracking for them is horrific and inconsistent, since they're done by the home scorekeeper without any real monitoring or accountability.

That and the fact that there is virtually 0 statistical correlation between them and success, if anything it's an inverse correlation with the best players consistently ranking at the top of the giveaways leaderboard

 

[Bouboumaster]

All 3 of those guys are much better defensive players than Hutson.

Can we stop bringing up devils players in this thread?

They ain't tho

Maybe Lane Hutson should teach them how to play the game

 

[ole ole]

All i can say is i'm sure glad we stole him with that 62nd rd pick.

 

[FerrisRox]

Because there is no real defined, consistent criteria for them.

The tracking for them is horrific and inconsistent, since they're done by the home scorekeeper without any real monitoring or accountability.

That and the fact that there is virtually 0 statistical correlation between them and success, if anything it's an inverse correlation with the best players consistently ranking at the top of the giveaways leaderboard

Well of course the best players are high in giveaways, the best players move the puck the the most often.

How can you suggest that there's no correlation between takeaways and success? That's absurd.

 

[dgibb10]

Well of course the best players are high in giveaways, the best players move the puck the the most often.

How can you suggest that there's no correlation between takeaways and success? That's absurd.

Takeaways and giveaways are tracked so poorly and inconsistently that they are not relevant beyond MAYBE comparing players on the same team.

 

[bud12]

Takeaways and giveaways are tracked so poorly and inconsistently that they are not relevant beyond MAYBE comparing players on the same team.

Like advance stats

 

[Xirik]

Yada yada, Advanced stats are good at understanding how good a player is.

Something something Advance stats shouldn't exist because you can only rely on your peepers.

Nobody is changing their minds. Lets go back to Hutson talk.

 

[Devilsfan2326]

What's the chance that Hutson starts shooting more this season?

 

[Boxscore]

All i can say is i'm sure glad we stole him with that 62nd rd pick.

Yep. Franchise-altering talent later in the draft. Great pick by Habs.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Yep. Franchise-altering talent later in the draft. Great pick by Habs.

You'd think so, but according to 2 or 3 Devils fans, he's the worst defensemen in the league, and now I don't know what to believe

 

[Joe n]

You'd think so, but according to 2 or 3 Devils fans, he's the worst defensemen in the league, and now I don't know what to believe

You seem to be really but hurt. All I've seen is that he will be a really good player but that he has flaws. I guess people on here aren't allowed to criticise him on the occasions that he makes a bad play.

 

[Bouboumaster]

I guess people on here aren't allowed to criticise him on the occasions that he makes a bad play.

They are allowed to criticise Whoever they want, and in return I am allowed to call out their opinion when I find it stupid.

I am also allowed to call out on your ass when you seems to assume that free speech is a one way street.

 

[Joe n]

They are allowed to criticise Whoever they want, and in return I am allowed to call out their opinion when I find stupid.

I am also allowed to call out on your ass when you seems to assume that free speech is a one way street.

who has said that he isn't or won't be a good player. You just seem to get upset every time someone comments that he could still improve his game. sorry that people don't think he's the best Dman since Bobby Orr..

 

[usiel]

Cole will be better.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

You'd think so, but according to 2 or 3 Devils fans, he's the worst defensemen in the league, and now I don't know what to believe

Yeah I've been so critical of Hutson. Especially when I said this earlier in the thread:

He's a brilliant OFD. Anyone who doubted his abilities to make plays at the NHL level is looking pretty silly. I don't suspect he'll ever be above average defensively, but with his talent and IQ it might not matter, especially if he's played with more of a shutdown guy.

He is going to score a lot of points in this league. Really fun player to watch.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Cole will be better.

What happened to him? I had thought he was going to go top 10-15 in last years draft and he fell all the way to 2nd round, 43 overall. (washington)

Size concerns as well?

 

[FiveTacos]

What's the chance that Hutson starts shooting more this season?

Is that something a guy can just flip a switch on? Seems to me with dmen especially, getting shots on net is as much a skill as anything.

What happened to him? I had thought he was going to go top 10-15 in last years draft and he fell all the way to 2nd round, 43 overall. (washington)

Size concerns as well?

Being small on D can drop you quite a bit, especially if there's other talented D prospects available without the size issue. Last year there were lots of legitimately good D options in the 1st round without size concerns.

That said, a gifted enough D can certainly overcome the issues that arise from being small. But not often does someone want to roll the dice high in the draft. It seems early 2nd is the standard draft range for guys like that, for teams who already banked a high pick, and it seems to pay off sometimes.