Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

Miller Time

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Agree to disagree. He's a phenomenal talent and he'll learn to make less risks over time, but he's not there yet.
Yup.

And, he's already ahead of Hamilton, Casey & Hughes in that department... fyi

You just like making false posts without backing them up, huh?

Nope. Back up is right there to see... including in this most recent post.

Very unreasonable to claim player A is "too careless with the puck", while said player is far better at puck possession (give away to take away ratio) than other players one claims are "better defenders", especially when said opinion is backed up presumably because of a (mis)perceived lower risk approach to puck management

Hot takes are finally and all, but that kind of inconsistency reflects poor reasoning. Get it?
 

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Yup.

And, he's already ahead of Hamilton, Casey & Hughes in that department... fyi
Hamilton, yes. Not Casey or Hughes
Nope. Back up is right there to see... including in this most recent post.

Very unreasonable to claim player A is "too careless with the puck", while said player is far better at puck possession (give away to take away ratio) than other players one claims are "better defenders", especially when said opinion is backed up presumably because of a (mis)perceived lower risk approach to puck management

Hot takes are finally and all, but that kind of inconsistency reflects poor reasoning. Get it?
Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

Not like it matters, that post was still after you claimed most of my posts in this thread were unreasonable, a claim you have continually refused to support.

So I'll give you one last chance to support your statement. Otherwise we're done here.
 

Miller Time

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Hamilton, yes. Not Casey or Hughes
Statistically speaking this is incorrect.

Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.
That's an unreasonable and poorly informed perspective.

Not like it matters, that post was still after you claimed most of my posts in this thread were unreasonable, a claim you have continually refused to support.
Nope. Just read and everything should be clear.

So I'll give you one last chance to support your statement. Otherwise we're done here.
Bye
 

dgibb10

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Hamilton, yes. Not Casey or Hughes

Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

Not like it matters, that post was still after you claimed most of my posts in this thread were unreasonable, a claim you have continually refused to support.

So I'll give you one last chance to support your statement. Otherwise we're done here.
Giveaway and Takeaway stats, which were horrific and not indicative of much before, are even worse this year in how they're tracked lmao.
 

bud12

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Another strong showing from that bum!!!!

Oh, and since we have nj fans coming in each times Hutson make a mistake, can we look how bad was Hughes on the empty net tonight.
 
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FerrisRox

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Claiming that a giveaway to takeaway ratio represents anything is laughable.

I'll bite.

Please explain why the giveaway to takeaway ratio doesn't represent anything.

Giveaway and Takeaway stats, which were horrific and not indicative of much before, are even worse this year in how they're tracked lmao.

Please explain why they were "horrific and not indicative of much."

(And for the love of God, just answer the question I asked you and leave the goalposts alone.)
 
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dgibb10

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I'll bite.

Please explain why the giveaway to takeaway ratio doesn't represent anything.



Please explain why they were "horrific and not indicative of much."

(And for the love of God, just answer the question I asked you and leave the goalposts alone.)
Because there is no real defined, consistent criteria for them.

The tracking for them is horrific and inconsistent, since they're done by the home scorekeeper without any real monitoring or accountability.

That and the fact that there is virtually 0 statistical correlation between them and success, if anything it's an inverse correlation with the best players consistently ranking at the top of the giveaways leaderboard
 
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FerrisRox

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Because there is no real defined, consistent criteria for them.

The tracking for them is horrific and inconsistent, since they're done by the home scorekeeper without any real monitoring or accountability.

That and the fact that there is virtually 0 statistical correlation between them and success, if anything it's an inverse correlation with the best players consistently ranking at the top of the giveaways leaderboard

Well of course the best players are high in giveaways, the best players move the puck the the most often.

How can you suggest that there's no correlation between takeaways and success? That's absurd.
 

dgibb10

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Well of course the best players are high in giveaways, the best players move the puck the the most often.

How can you suggest that there's no correlation between takeaways and success? That's absurd.
Takeaways and giveaways are tracked so poorly and inconsistently that they are not relevant beyond MAYBE comparing players on the same team.
 
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Xirik

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Yada yada, Advanced stats are good at understanding how good a player is.

Something something Advance stats shouldn't exist because you can only rely on your peepers.

Nobody is changing their minds. Lets go back to Hutson talk.
 

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