Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

[Quinntessential]

At this point, I kinda feel bad for him. Habs fans always have a way to ruin their prospects.


That's because these fans dish out abuse at a much higher rate than non-Canadian teams.

Fair.

 

[Leafshater67]

No but Karlsson is f***ing horrific defensively and it hasn’t stopped him from winning 3 Norris trophies

It’s really not that complicated

He wasn’t when he won those trophies. He was a force back then pre injury.

 

[TBF1972]

Arguable, but thats because we have the largest fanbase, and we also have the most passionate fanbase.

and least self-entitled

 

[TeamRenzo]

The amount of people that are so happy to dunk on this kid is pretty pathetic. He's got warts, we knew this.

People like to dunk on obnoxious fans

 

[TBF1972]

Your first sentence is pretty much the point I'm making. If Hutson's main issue is his defensive side, then he should be and needs to be worried about his defensive side. So it doesn't really make sense saying he needs to have a partner that will make him not worry about his defensive side.

Having a good partner such as Methot for Karlsson is nice to have if the goal is to win games and maximize your players' talents and on ice results. But I think Montreal is more focused on developing their players rather than winning games.

As a Canucks fan, I've read a lot about Hutson in college last season because Willander was on the team. A lot of the reports mentioned concerns about Hutson's game and hyper-rover style of play translating to the NHL. So far, it sounds like Hutson needs to adjust his game if he wants to stick in the NHL and I don't see how having a babysitter for him is mandatory in achieving that.

Hughes improved defensively not because he was babysat by Tanev or Schenn but because he made a conscious effort to work on his game every year. Schenn and Tanev were definitely helpful in covering Hughes' weaknesses but that mainly impacted on ice results rather than Hughes' actual development.

Obviously making too many mistakes that end up in the back of the net could negatively effect Hutson's confidence where he might feel overwhelmed and start playing too scared. But again, that's something coaching and Hutson's own perseverance can help with. Having a babysitter isn't mandatory for that either.

i think success and confidence play a huge role in development. setting someone up for failure can also staunch the development.

 

[HabzSauce]

People like to dunk on obnoxious fans

Fans are obnoxious for getting excited about a player? Weird

 

[TBF1972]

I love when people bring up +- on here lol

People LOVE using the stat when trying to hype up a player if it’s a good +- but then those same people will say +- is a useless stat when a player has a bad +-

It’s always entertaining as hell seeing posters use +- to fit their argument one way or the other

….Anyways, sooner or later I strongly feel Hutson will either need a few games sitting in the press box or some time in the AHL… TSN overdrive was actually talking about him today saying how much of a train wreck he was VS the Rangers last night and should spend some time in the AHL to get better defensively but said that Habs fans would come unglued if that were to happen

Alot of fans always hate the idea of certain players being sent to the AHL… there is never anything wrong with high end young players spending time in the AHL… and I guarantee down the road, players will admit they needed that time in the minors to become better NHL players. A lot of fans love having the bragging rights of their prospects going straight to the show and never setting foot in the AHL… but a lot of prospects need that time. Even if it’s just a half a season

does montreal have better alternatives?

guhle and matheson are their only d's who would play in the d rotation of any team in the league.

 

[TBF1972]

He’s not killing the clubs chances of winning as no player could save this team but I agree that there’s no point keeping him up and letting him get cooked every night

are there any alternatives in the organization? i see lindstrom and other prospects which are most likely not ready for the nhl.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Everytime someone bring +/- stats, I remember Mark Fraser in 2012/13 who was the leader on the entire maple leaf roster. This is the only usefull things I need to know about that garbage stats.....

Do you also think scoring 50 goals is a meaningless stat because Cheechoo once did it?

 

[bud12]

Do you also think scoring 50 goals is a meaningless stat because Cheechoo once did it?

Are you really comparing goal stats and +/- ??????

 

[Sasha Orlov]

are there any alternatives in the organization? i see lindstrom and other prospects which are most likely not ready for the nhl.

That’s half the problem, there’s nobody more ready

They need to make a trade at this point

 

[RickyLafleur]

Is this guy still a lock for the Calder?

 

[TBF1972]

That’s half the problem, there’s nobody more ready

They need to make a trade at this point

no veteran ufa out there. stanley cup is not on the line.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

no veteran ufa out there. stanley cup is not on the line.

Not even to win more games, they just need an NHL level defenseman to help the kids develop

It is not a good situation right now

 

[Fatass]

Has Hutson been sent to the minors yet?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Is this guy still a lock for the Calder?

Yes

Has Hutson been sent to the minors yet?

no

 

[Fatass]

Yes

no

The Habs sent Caufield to the minors for a stint and that was a good move for the player’s development. It’s time for Hutson to play in the A. I see him getting sent down fairly soon. Best for him.

 

[Maitz]

Hutson doesn't need to go to the AHL, he makes mistake he is only 20 years old but he is the only spark offensively, most of the turnover no forward is backing him. At least he tries, can't say the same about other players on that team

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Arguable, but thats because we have the largest fanbase, and we also have the most passionate fanbase. Something youll never get to experience.

seriously man.

The pretentiousness in this comment is wild lol. How do you even quantify something like this?

 

[Favster]

He's going to need 2 full seasons to learn the league, he's such a smart player he'll figure out what he can and can't do. He's so skilled and good with the puck on his stick it's crazy. No doubt in my mind he'll figure it out and be dominant for a very long time.

 

[amnesiac]

The pretentiousness in this comment is wild lol. How do you even quantify something like this?

If you dont think Montreal and Toronto are the top 2 Hockey Meccas of the planet then you may want to inform yourself a bit more about the sport. I guarantee you its not an American city if you happen to think so.

Post a poll if you need more convincing

 

[Rodgerwilco]

If you dont think Montreal and Toronto are the top 2 Hockey Meccas of the planet then you may want to inform yourself a bit more about the sport. I guarantee you its not an American city if you happen to think so.

Post a poll if you need more convincing

In terms of size, sure those two are the biggest. But how do you quantify "passion"? (Outside of an HFBoards poll, I guess.)

 

[Ghetty Green]

Have they awarded him the Norris yet ?

 

[amnesiac]

In terms of size, sure those two are the biggest. But how do you quantify "passion"? (Outside of an HFBoards poll, I guess.)

 

[Golden_Jet]

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In all seriousness, if you lived a few years in Montreal youd get the idea.

For one, its the only (major) sports team Montreal has, so all our attention, even in the summer, is directed towards the Habs

theyre obviously the most historic and winningest franchise in hockey, which is a big part of it (similar to the Yankees and Celtics)

they take the time and effort to put on amazing spectacles such as opening night and number retirements, as theyre taken very seriously

practically all our sports media is 95% Habs talk (24/7 english and french radio, RDS (french TSN), TVA sports)

we sell out practically every game 21000+, even during long frustration droughts and rebuilds (unlike other cities who only go when their team is winning Cups like Chicago and Detroit)

the city's buzz and excitement during playoff runs such as 2021 are bigger than most actual Cup winners (see Kucherov's infamous quote). Low key sports bars have to take reservations.... Hell, I was at game 6 in 2002 when Montreal (7th seed) eliminated Boston (2nd seed) in the 1st round, youd swear we had just won the Cup seeing how we celebrated afterwards.

There are more Habs fans in OTHER Canadian cities than any other team (mostly for historic reasons). Youll hear loud cheers for the Habs whether theyre in: Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Ottawa, or Toronto.... Last draft was in Las Vegas of all cities, and the biggest cheer BY FAR was when Celion Dion said Ivan Demidov's name. By far.

Id even say this FORUM and THREAD is a pretty good indication too of how passionate the fanbase is.


Look Im not saying Leafs or Nucks fans dont love their team as much, but in Montreal its a religion.... With that comes a lot of bad apples and idiot homers, I wont deny that at all. Just goes to show.

The cheers were for Celine, as was a institution in Vegas.