Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

[Szechwan]

Hes almost too good for the AHL offensively, but he needs to focus on his defensive game. I hope management see that.

Weird take imo. He's only too good for the AHL if he can go down there and play his offensive style without getting lit up in the other direction. If he goes down there and exhibits his high end offense and sieve-like D, he's just another in a long line of Eric Brannstroms- guys with superb offensive instincts an no ability to temper them in the name of responsible D.

He can't be "too good" at a single aspect of hockey if the rest of his game is in shambles - he needs to be able to learn how to find a balance, and the AHL is a great place to do it.

 

[Golden_Jet]

You can answer your own question by watching the game. He’s the #1 player in the league in average puck possession per game.

He’s been nothing short of amazing. It’s hard to say the same about Caufield, Slaf, Suzuki, Dach & Newhook so far this year. They have been worrisome to say the least.

Which stat(s) are you using to determine puck possession and site.

 

[My3Sons]

But you enjoy "watching his downfall".

so you are saying someone should make a YouTube video of a dictatorial character reacting to Lane Hutson's play eroding based on the movie "Downfall"? Hmm.....

 

[Peasy]

I think its mostly the posters posting stupid threads hyping this player or that player after only a few games

Its as bad as seeing Stolarz for Vezina hype. Come on man give it a season

The ironic thing is most of the time these threads on the mainboards arent even created by fans of said team lol.

Think some people just want to watch the chaos ensue.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Some of the comments in this thread are truly deranged.

The idea that you bump a thread every game a rookie has a bad game is hard to believe someone has that time on their hands and hate for a random rookie.

Was he awful last night? Absolutely, he had a complete stinker. But the Habs are just a bad team. They were giving up 5 whether they had Lane or anyone in his lineup spot.

And even within the bad games you see his ability. He’s going to put up a lot of points this year and drive play offensively. He’s going to rip off a scoring streak soon, and the tone of many of these comments will change.

He’s a 20 year old rookie in the NHL. If you don’t expect ups and downs, you’re crazy. And he was a late second rounder. And he’s a 5’10 defenseman. And he’s the absolute lightest player in the league this year. Only 162 pounds.

Give it time. You don’t need to live and die on his every game. Hutson will have an overall very positive season and be one of the best rookies in the league. And that comes with some downs. If you focus on all the downs, says more about you than him.

Well, to be fair the thread also gets bumped every time he has a good game.
We will have to see where he is at the quarter point of the season.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Do not look up Erik Karlsson’s stats through his first two seasons!!! (3 Norris trophies btw)

Not sure what you're suggesting with this comment.

Karlsson had 26 points in 60 games (and 6 points in 6 playoff games) in his 19YR old rookie season.

In his 20YR old season (same development year Hutson is in now) he had 45 points in 75 games on the 2nd lowest scoring team in the league.

That was also during a period where scoring was significantly lower than it is now, particularly for defensemen.

Also Hutson isn't anywhere close to as fast as Karlsson was pre-Cooke or even after having his achilles cut. None of his skills are up to Karlsson's level come to think of it. Not sure why his name was even brought up.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Not sure what you're suggesting with this comment.

Karlsson had 26 points in 60 games (and 6 points in 6 playoff games) in his 19YR old rookie season.

In his 20YR old season (same development year Hutson is in now) he had 45 points in 75 games on the 2nd lowest scoring team in the league.

That was also during a period where scoring was significantly lower than it is now, particularly for defensemen.

Also Hutson isn't anywhere close to as fast as Karlsson was pre-Cooke or even after having his achilles cut. None of his skills are up to Karlsson's level come to think of it. Not sure why his name was even brought up.

Karlsson had 45 points and was a -30 in his second season, funny how you leave that out

Not very hard to figure out what the point is (for me anyway)

 

[Hale The Villain]

Karlsson had 45 points and was a -30 in his second season, funny how you leave that out

Not very hard to figure out what the point is (for me anyway)

I literally spoke to his 45 point season in the third sentence of my post.

Your point is stupid, which is the point of my post.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I literally spoke to his 45 point season in the third sentence of my post.

Your point is stupid, which is the point of my post.

You left out the -30 which is the entire point so clearly you have comprehension issues

 

[branch]

If he keep???? It's the first time he had a bad game for god sake. And it's not because he had a bad +/- because with a normal perf by a nhl goalie, he would have probably be only -1, it's because he was nervous after the giveway that resulted in a goal. He was affected by that and it showed on the ice.

He's looked pretty bad the last 3 games or so. It's part of the normal development curve of a player. That's all I am saying. It all adds up

 

[TeamRenzo]

Weird as hell to see people cheering when a defenseman who’s played like 10 games has warts.

Equally as weird as claiming a rookie dman is a "burgeoning star" with 10 games

 

[CanadienShark]

I'm just looking forward to the book of excuses Habs fans are going to pull out.

"At least we didn't get eliminated in round 1 again."

 

[Hale The Villain]

You left out the -30 which is the entire point so clearly you have comprehension issues

If you think plus/minus is a valuable stat in the year 2024 you are beyond help.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

If you think plus/minus is a valuable stat in the year 2024 you are beyond help.

LMAO ok so then what’s the knock against Hutson exactly? He has 6pts in 9 career games so far, clearly living up to his hype as an offensive defenseman

 

[Golden_Jet]

If you think plus/minus is a valuable stat in the year 2024 you are beyond help.

Yep, I only look at really to compare amongst teammates, is player near the top or bottom on the team.
Comparing a player on negative goal differential teams with big positive goal differential teams is almost useless.

So for example Lane is 18th on the habs out of 22 players.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yep, I only look at really to compare amongst teammates, is player near the top or bottom on the team.
Comparing a player on negative goal differential teams with big positive goal differential teams is almost useless.

So for example Lane is 18th on the habs out of 22 players.

Yes you’re correct, and it’s also important to note he’s #1 in icetime on a bottom 3 team

Never going to be a great defensive player and was never drafted to be that

Others talking about +/- throughout the whole thread was the only reason I mentioned Karlsson btw

 

[CanadienShark]

Some of the comments in this thread are truly deranged.

The idea that you bump a thread every game a rookie has a bad game is hard to believe someone has that time on their hands and hate for a random rookie.

Was he awful last night? Absolutely, he had a complete stinker. But the Habs are just a bad team. They were giving up 5 whether they had Lane or anyone in his lineup spot.

And even within the bad games you see his ability. He’s going to put up a lot of points this year and drive play offensively. He’s going to rip off a scoring streak soon, and the tone of many of these comments will change.

He’s a 20 year old rookie in the NHL. If you don’t expect ups and downs, you’re crazy. And he was a late second rounder. And he’s a 5’10 defenseman. And he’s the absolute lightest player in the league this year. Only 162 pounds.

Give it time. You don’t need to live and die on his every game. Hutson will have an overall very positive season and be one of the best rookies in the league. And that comes with some downs. If you focus on all the downs, says more about you than him.

Well said. When he has a hot streak, all the usual trolls will go into hiding until he has another bad game. It's just part of the process.

 

[Hale The Villain]

LMAO ok so then what’s the knock against Hutson exactly? He has 6pts in 9 career games so far, clearly living up to his hype as an offensive defenseman

With the high risk high reward one-dimensional game he plays, he'll need to put up those kind of numbers consistently to be considered a top 4 defenseman.

If he can fix those issues he could be great, but it wouldn't surprise me if he had a Gostisbehere-type career instead of ending up being the elite D some think he'll become.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

With the high risk high reward one-dimensional game he plays, he'll need to put up those kind of numbers consistently to be considered a top 4 defenseman.

If he can fix those issues he could be great, but it wouldn't surprise me if he had a Gostisbehere-type career instead of ending up being the elite D some think he'll become.

I have no problem with this assessment at all, I am apologetic regarding our previous exchange

 

[boompuffboom]

he's getting pushed around, much like all of Habs defense.
kid is struggling with the big bodies.

he has the brain and legs and hands otherwise.
the fact that he is currently one the top players in the whole league for actual puck possession time is outstanding.

imho, these past few games are a reflection of how horrawful the habs have been, not of Laner's play.

stay tuned, this is just the start of a special talent in the greatest hockey league on the planet.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

I'm high as a kite. Thought it said "Lane Hutson is binging Star Wars" and got confused and almost got tricked into thinking we're in the off-season.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

You left out the -30 which is the entire point so clearly you have comprehension issues

Jeff Schultz is +78 in 409 games played.
Erik Karlsson is -103 in 1010 games played.

So... Schultz >> Karlsson then eh?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Jeff Schultz is +78 in 409 games played.
Erik Karlsson is -103 in 1010 games played.

So... Schultz >> Karlsson then eh?

No but Karlsson is f***ing horrific defensively and it hasn’t stopped him from winning 3 Norris trophies

It’s really not that complicated

 

[bud12]

Everytime someone bring +/- stats, I remember Mark Fraser in 2012/13 who was the leader on the entire maple leaf roster. This is the only usefull things I need to know about that garbage stats.....

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I love when people bring up +- on here lol

People LOVE using the stat when trying to hype up a player if it’s a good +- but then those same people will say +- is a useless stat when a player has a bad +-

It’s always entertaining as hell seeing posters use +- to fit their argument one way or the other

….Anyways, sooner or later I strongly feel Hutson will either need a few games sitting in the press box or some time in the AHL… TSN overdrive was actually talking about him today saying how much of a train wreck he was VS the Rangers last night and should spend some time in the AHL to get better defensively but said that Habs fans would come unglued if that were to happen

Alot of fans always hate the idea of certain players being sent to the AHL… there is never anything wrong with high end young players spending time in the AHL… and I guarantee down the road, players will admit they needed that time in the minors to become better NHL players. A lot of fans love having the bragging rights of their prospects going straight to the show and never setting foot in the AHL… but a lot of prospects need that time. Even if it’s just a half a season