TSN: Laine cleared to return from Player Assistance Program

[elmaco]

There's been plenty of rumors discussed because of it over the last few years

I was being sarcastic Nothing is ever confirmed.

 

[Baksfamous112]

That's why I wrote the Russian proverb ("Greed was the undoing of a dude"). GMs are waiting to see if Waddell will make price lower, I don't believe they don't work are in the holidays. But they can, as we say in Slovakia, miscalculate.

I know, it is strange but PAP can be a very strong argument, especially if Patrik was so long in it.

They basically want to give him away. How much lower can a team realistically go

 

[thebus88]

Can you provide a source for anything you've said in this topic? I live in Columbus, have connections to media who follow the Jackets (I actually covered the Jackets as a writer briefly, lol), and pay as much attention to the Jackets as probably anyone who actively roots for another team. This would be the first time I've heard of him not being respected by his coaches and teammates in Columbus. You're just saying a bunch of bullshit. If this is what happened in Winnipeg, it's not what happened in Columbus.

WHAT is wrong in the Columbus Blue Jacket locker room?? WHO is the actual problem?? Based on the sources/media/writers and/or Columbus based CBJ fans. He’s literally had some sort of “extraordinary” issue or incident, or made negative comments about each of the 3 head coaches he’s had with the CBJ. I’d be willing to bet Laine had something to do with the Babcock era ending so soon also.

Can you provide a source or anything about ANY CBJ player having a negative thought or feeling about a teammate?? Does that mean they don’t exist?? You think the CBJ players enjoy that he stopped playing for the team and essentially wants to only come back to play with another team, partly due to the reason he’s “sick of losing”….??

Something has obviously been very wrong, yet all we ever get is overly vague PR BS answers about everything. Some players have hinted towards issues, but, there’s never any digging or discussion about anything, and those things are enough for a headline or a paragraph and it’s time to move on.

I’ve personally mentioned multiple times the comments made by Gudbranson that essentially everyone took as comments about the coach/Brad Larsen, when you could EASILY INTERPRET them another way, and read them as a “shot” at the other players (a certain group/Laine) not being prepared for practice, or in general as NHL hockey players.

Laine is a HUGE reason we are on COACH 3 (actually 4) that have been used as a scapegoat and essentially blamed for all problems regarding the teams performance.

It’s almost like everyone ADMITS there’s been a problem with the team, yet, nobody can acknowledge who or what it could actually be, other than blaming the coaching, that has changed almost yearly, or a goalie you at one time couldn’t even express negative opinions about. Adding Monahan and removing Jake Bean and Adam Boqvist ain’t enough.

 

[thebus88]

It’s all been there to see. On the ice. Off the ice. Been an issue from the start. Reminder that the Larsen/bench incident was literally a few games into his time with the CBJ.

Tortorella on Laine benching: 'It's what I feel I need to do'

Patrik Laine was benched for the third period of Monday's 3-2 win over the Carolina Hurricanes after skating 11:14 in the first two frames. After the game, Tortorella was asked about his decision to sit the young star down.

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Patrik Laine on healthy scratch: 'Probably the most embarrassing thing that’s happened to me' | TSN

Columbus Blue Jackets winger Patrik Laine spoke to the media on Tuesday for the first time since sitting out Sunday's loss to the Philadelphia Flyers as a healthy scratch.

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Laine will return to Blue Jackets lineup against Blackhawks after 'embarrassing' healthy scratch | NHL.com

Forward did not dress for 1st time in NHL on Sunday

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READ THE DUDES ACTUAL QUOTES—PLEASE

Columbus Blue Jackets Pascal Vincent on Patrik Laine: 'Nobody is bigger than the Blue Jackets' | TSN

Columbus Blue Jackets winger Patrik Laine sat out Sunday's 5-2 loss to the Philadelphia Flyers as a healthy scratch. The 25-year-old has two goals and one assist in nine games this season, and Blue Jackets head coach Pascal Vincent is hoping the move will help Laine rediscover his previous form.

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“Nobody is bigger than the Blue Jackets”

Well said, Vincent.

 

[Viqsi]

WHAT is wrong in the Columbus Blue Jacket locker room?? WHO is the actual problem?? Based on the sources/media/writers and/or Columbus based CBJ fans. He’s literally had some sort of “extraordinary” issue or incident, or made negative comments about each of the 3 head coaches he’s had with the CBJ. I’d be willing to bet Laine had something to do with the Babcock era ending so soon also.

Can you provide a source or anything about ANY CBJ player having a negative thought or feeling about a teammate?? Does that mean they don’t exist?? You think the CBJ players enjoy that he stopped playing for the team and essentially wants to only come back to play with another team, partly due to the reason he’s “sick of losing”….??

Something has obviously been very wrong, yet all we ever get is overly vague PR BS answers about everything. Some players have hinted towards issues, but, there’s never any digging or discussion about anything, and those things are enough for a headline or a paragraph and it’s time to move on.

I’ve personally mentioned multiple times the comments made by Gudbranson that essentially everyone took as comments about the coach/Brad Larsen, when you could EASILY INTERPRET them another way, and read them as a “shot” at the other players (a certain group/Laine) not being prepared for practice, or in general as NHL hockey players.

Laine is a HUGE reason we are on COACH 3 (actually 4) that have been used as a scapegoat and essentially blamed for all problems regarding the teams performance.

It’s almost like everyone ADMITS there’s been a problem with the team, yet, nobody can acknowledge who or what it could actually be, other than blaming the coaching, that has changed almost yearly, or a goalie you at one time couldn’t even express negative opinions about. Adding Monahan and removing Jake Bean and Adam Boqvist ain’t enough.

It’s all been there to see. On the ice. Off the ice. Been an issue from the start. Reminder that the Larsen/bench incident was literally a few games into his time with the CBJ.

Tortorella on Laine benching: 'It's what I feel I need to do'

Patrik Laine was benched for the third period of Monday's 3-2 win over the Carolina Hurricanes after skating 11:14 in the first two frames. After the game, Tortorella was asked about his decision to sit the young star down.

www.sportsnet.ca

Patrik Laine on healthy scratch: 'Probably the most embarrassing thing that’s happened to me' | TSN

Columbus Blue Jackets winger Patrik Laine spoke to the media on Tuesday for the first time since sitting out Sunday's loss to the Philadelphia Flyers as a healthy scratch.

www.tsn.ca

Laine will return to Blue Jackets lineup against Blackhawks after 'embarrassing' healthy scratch | NHL.com

Forward did not dress for 1st time in NHL on Sunday

www.nhl.com

READ THE DUDES ACTUAL QUOTES—PLEASE

Columbus Blue Jackets Pascal Vincent on Patrik Laine: 'Nobody is bigger than the Blue Jackets' | TSN

Columbus Blue Jackets winger Patrik Laine sat out Sunday's 5-2 loss to the Philadelphia Flyers as a healthy scratch. The 25-year-old has two goals and one assist in nine games this season, and Blue Jackets head coach Pascal Vincent is hoping the move will help Laine rediscover his previous form.

www.tsn.ca

“Nobody is bigger than the Blue Jackets”

Well said, Vincent.

"Speculation speculation speculation speculation and I'm blaming the one guy I don't like."

You keep doing this.

 

[um]

"Speculation speculation speculation speculation and I'm blaming the one guy I don't like."

You keep doing this.

Hmmm. It doesn’t look like they are speculating.

Those are not random sources.

 

[thebus88]

"Speculation speculation speculation speculation and I'm blaming the one guy I don't like."

You keep doing this.

Your opinions aren’t respected by me. Quit responding to all my posts in this way while adding nothing of substance or even involving any subject other than MY opinions. Try talking some hockey.

You don’t or shouldn’t represent ALL CBJ fans.

 

[Baksfamous112]

"Speculation speculation speculation speculation and I'm blaming the one guy I don't like."

You keep doing this.

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

 

[Lt Dan]

WTH did I just read

 

[ManWithNoName]

They basically want to give him away. How much lower can a team realistically go

Oh, another ”Source: trust me bro”

 

[Marioesque]

READ THE DUDES ACTUAL QUOTES

"It's probably over my career the most embarrassing thing that's happened to me, so I'm obviously not happy about that," Laine said after practice Tuesday. "They know that. It is what it is. It's done and now we're back, so just try to focus on playing.

"I mean, I'm not going to start analyzing it that much, because I don't know what I'm going to say. I'll just keep it at that. I'm not going to say anything dumb. It's up to them. I just play here, and I play whenever they tell me."

What's the problem with this?

Because it wasn't standard hockey BS like "we just gotta play our own game, the game isn't over til it's over, we have to want it more"?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Debatable

Your assessment belies this.

Not even remotely true.

One-off injuries, but otherwise true.

Never has. He's asked out but never quit.

This is the most ludicrously absurd thing in your entire post.

So, basically, you're 1 for 6 in your assessment. Not very good work. I advise you get over the days when folks used to insist he was better than Matthews and stop butting into threads trying to push nonsense narratives about the guy.

Asking out is quitting on the team it's the same thing.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'm intrigued by this story, we have a player that is extremely talented but is also damaged goods until proven otherwise.

And let's be clear right now he is damaged goods, you can't come out of the player assistance program and not be damaged goods.

His trade value is very likely rock bottom right now

 

[Marioesque]

And let's be clear right now he is damaged goods, you can't come out of the player assistance program and not be damaged goods.

I don't think such a rule is written anywhere. This might be how you feel but I don't. Had Carey Price returned from his time in it, I would have considered him elite goalie Carey Price until he showed otherwise.

And wouldn't they be "refurbished " at least

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I don't think such a rule is written anywhere. This might be how you feel but I don't. Had Carey Price returned from his time in it, I would have considered him elite goalie Carey Price until he showed otherwise.

And wouldn't they be "refurbished " at least

It doesn't need to be written you don'tgo into that program unless you are damaged goods.

The fact that he had to go into it, is enough to call him damaged goods, and until he steps on the ice be it for Columbus or somebody else, and proves he's got his shit together and he's that sniper again he's damaged goods and his trade value is rock bottom

 

[Marioesque]

It doesn't need to be written you don'tgo into that program unless you are damaged goods.

The fact that he had to go into it, is enough to call him damaged goods, and until he steps on the ice be it for Columbus or somebody else, and proves he's got his shit together and he's that sniper again he's damaged goods and his trade value is rock bottom

 

[ManWithNoName]

Asking out is quitting on the team it's the same thing.

In general I agree with you, but surely there has to be nuances to this.

Giving 50%, not caring, not taking responsibility for your actions is quitting on your team.

Asking for a trade because of a family situation, being “misused”, management issues or as in this case needing a fresh start coming out of the PAP I wouldn’t consider quitting.

 

[Monstershockey]

Asking out is quitting on the team it's the same thing.

I agree with this. Guys on teams that I follow, as soon as they ask out, I stop caring what they do. Sooner they are gone the better. I want guys that want to be there, trying hard to make the team better. It doesn't always work out, but it makes rooting for the team better. I don't care to root for guys that want out.

 

[HabsAddict]

I'm still scratching my head to figure out if he would be good for the Habs.

There is no escaping the Habs media. They can make you into a God...or beat you like a rented mule.

On the other hand it's a young, hungry team and Hughes values team spirit. "Its a family"...and if he fits in, I can see a massivly different Laine.

Don't know....

 

[Marioesque]

WHAT is wrong in the Columbus Blue Jacket locker room?? WHO is the actual problem?? Based on the sources/media/writers and/or Columbus based CBJ fans. He’s literally had some sort of “extraordinary” issue or incident, or made negative comments about each of the 3 head coaches he’s had with the CBJ. I’d be willing to bet Laine had something to do with the Babcock era ending so soon also.

Can you provide a source or anything about ANY CBJ player having a negative thought or feeling about a teammate?? Does that mean they don’t exist?? You think the CBJ players enjoy that he stopped playing for the team and essentially wants to only come back to play with another team, partly due to the reason he’s “sick of losing”….??

Something has obviously been very wrong, yet all we ever get is overly vague PR BS answers about everything. Some players have hinted towards issues, but, there’s never any digging or discussion about anything, and those things are enough for a headline or a paragraph and it’s time to move on.

I’ve personally mentioned multiple times the comments made by Gudbranson that essentially everyone took as comments about the coach/Brad Larsen, when you could EASILY INTERPRET them another way, and read them as a “shot” at the other players (a certain group/Laine) not being prepared for practice, or in general as NHL hockey players.

Laine is a HUGE reason we are on COACH 3 (actually 4) that have been used as a scapegoat and essentially blamed for all problems regarding the teams performance.

It’s almost like everyone ADMITS there’s been a problem with the team, yet, nobody can acknowledge who or what it could actually be, other than blaming the coaching, that has changed almost yearly, or a goalie you at one time couldn’t even express negative opinions about. Adding Monahan and removing Jake Bean and Adam Boqvist ain’t enough.

You have a lot of feelings about the player. You don't have any facts on your side but I respect it in a Don Quixote way. It's mental but dedicated.

You've invented these Laine problems and try to sell it as truth. I'm sure YOU see all these connections but to the outsider it's your Pepe Silvia

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-17-2016/G2yRZm.gif

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

In general I agree with you, but surely there has to be nuances to this.

Giving 50%, not caring, not taking responsibility for your actions is quitting on your team.

Asking for a trade because of a family situation, being “misused”, management issues or as in this case needing a fresh start coming out of the PAP I wouldn’t consider quitting.

What does "misused" even mean?

I mean if you took say Auston Matthews and put him on the 4th line with Dewar and Reaves consistently sure that would be misusing him but no coach is going to do that.

Guys generally play where they belong and if they don't it's usually because they are to high in the lineup, case in point Tyler Bozak until Matthews was drafted.

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

So the question is,
Is the problem that Laine wants to play a certain style and method that is different than what the coaches want? More offensive starts less defensive starts or a team that has offense only lines and defence only lines.
Or maybe that they need to pass it to him more often?

Is it play Laine’s way or he don’t like it?

That’s what it sounds like. What team would that be?

 

[HabsAddict]

So the question is,
Is the problem that Laine wants to play a certain style and method that is different than what the coaches want? More offensive starts less defensive starts or a team that has offense only lines and defence only lines.
Or maybe that they need to pass it to him more often?

Is it play Laine’s way or he don’t like it?

That’s what it sounds like. What team would that be?

None.

The habs so far had a loose team and MSL allowed them to play their game. But...it will end soon. Unless a team has the 75 habs firepower, no team has enough offense to win a cup.with "let them play" coach.

Laine will need to conform to the teams structure...or get lost.

On the other hand i simply don't know that much about the player or his attitude to form a strong opinion on his game. I've watched him maybe 10 times as just another player, not a potential trade.

 

[Bouboumaster]

I'd try him on the Habs, but I'm sure as shit not ready to pay the price Colombus would want
I'd be ready to throw an unprotected 2026 1st round pick + for him

 

[Marioesque]

So the question is,
Is the problem that Laine wants to play a certain style and method that is different than what the coaches want? More offensive starts less defensive starts or a team that has offense only lines and defence only lines.
Or maybe that they need to pass it to him more often?

Is it play Laine’s way or he don’t like it?

That’s what it sounds like.

No.

He's been playing the roles he's been given, and even offered to try C when team was short on C. His usage on PP has been dumb, but he has played the position they ask.

Why are we making stuff up?