Proposal: Laf for Turcotte

[kinghock]

the thing is, LAK folks say they need LD not RD
(Clarke soon, and still Doughty, i get it)
and they want a young upside LD w size and skill

but the guy who NYR could offer that fits that description
(just turned 22, 6'4, 216#,107 NHL games, recently scored a wicked shootout goal, then next game a wicked wraparound),
would only possibly be made available for the perfect fit of skill, age, build and meets a need -
like a recent 2OA guy that LAK has no intention at all of moving

the deal that always seemed a fit to me was Zac Jones for Gabe or Kupari
but the vocal Kings posters always argue "too small"

How many times should KIngs say NO to Zac Jones?

 

[kinghock]

I think it's a pretty fair deal. Turcotte is a solid prospect blocked in the big league. Nils is a solid prospect blocked in the big league. If you want to say Turcotte can play Center, therefore 'worth more', there could be a minor add. Whether it's a mid pick or a player like Hajek/Gauthier.

LA has much deeper and more talented prospects pool comparing to NY.
Your surplus players are not needed by Kings at all.

 

[bernmeister]

How about Nils Lundkvist for Turcotte?

no

Nils &?

no, even more emphatic

the thing is, LAK folks say they need LD not RD
(Clarke soon, and still Doughty, i get it)
and they want a young upside LD w size and skill

but the guy who NYR could offer that fits that description
(just turned 22, 6'4, 216#,107 NHL games, recently scored a wicked shootout goal, then next game a wicked wraparound),
would only possibly be made available for the perfect fit of skill, age, build and meets a need -
like a recent 2OA guy that LAK has no intention at all of moving

the deal that always seemed a fit to me was Zac Jones for Gabe or Kupari
but the vocal Kings posters always argue "too small"

this ^, but like you say, size is a dealbreaker.
And this is not a shrimp under bottom of average at 5'10
cf lists at 5'11

Robertson + Gauthier

I’m huge on Robertson, so I’d hate to see him go, I also think Turcotte is a wing in the NHL. But if I’m NYR, I’d take the gamble

No, would not give up Robbie for a better return from LA and def not for Turcotte, imo not worth the gamble.

Robertson has mini-Schneider upside. Very mini at this pt, but imo there. When Lindy forced to go b'c we need cap for LaF/KK, having Robertson there will be huge.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Turcotte’s value is probably a low 2nd round pick at this point. He’s not even a good AHL player. Wasn’t that good of a college hockey player either.

I'd give up the Sens 2nd (~39th overall) for him pretty easily, so I think you're undervaluing him.

 

[jay from jersey]

no


no, even more emphatic


this ^, but like you say, size is a dealbreaker.
And this is not a shrimp under bottom of average at 5'10
cf lists at 5'11


No, would not give up Robbie for a better return from LA and def not for Turcotte, imo not worth the gamble.

Robertson has mini-Schneider upside. Very mini at this pt, but imo there. When Lindy forced to go b'c we need cap for LaF/KK, having Robertson there will be huge.

Robertson is bigger then Schneider, but they have different styles of play....
I’m in no rush to trade Robertson, but if they chose to keep lindgren/Miller/Jones on the left, he could possibly be moved.
They both move the puck well and are very mobile for big men, but Robertson won’t likely be as physical as Schneider.
He’ll likely take more after Staal. Sound positionally, won’t shy away from the rough stuff, but it’s not his calling card.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

How many times should KIngs say NO to Zac Jones?

One more time than we say no to Laf for Turcotte.

 

[glenbuis]

as a neutral fan at least laf is playing in the nhl . i would think that if turcotte was gonna be even an average nhl player he would be playing there by now .

 

[kinghock]

One more time than we say no to Laf for Turcotte.

Laff for Turcotte is not fair for Rangers
We can agree on this.
Can we also ask Rangers fans stop offering their surplus players to Kings?

 

[Schmooley]

No sane Kings fan thinks Turcotte is worth Laf and a fan of neither team made this thread. Should shut her down

 

[McJedi]

I'd give up the Sens 2nd (~39th overall) for him pretty easily, so I think you're undervaluing him.

So a pretty high second rounder. Ok.

 

[bernmeister]

Robertson is bigger then Schneider, but they have different styles of play....
I’m in no rush to trade Robertson, but if they chose to keep lindgren/Miller/Jones on the left, he could possibly be moved.
They both move the puck well and are very mobile for big men, but Robertson won’t likely be as physical as Schneider.
He’ll likely take more after Staal. Sound positionally, won’t shy away from the rough stuff, but it’s not his calling card.

concur
as I have said previously, cap crunch next season will be SO severe, Lindy may have to go to get scratch to extend LaF/Kakko/Blais
Robbie's elc will be invaluable then

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

as a neutral fan at least laf is playing in the nhl . i would think that if turcotte was gonna be even an average nhl player he would be playing there by now .

Allow me to introduce you to the LA Kings, the org who recently put on the record that they'd like to use all their AHL waiver eligibility years on said prospects.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Allow me to introduce you to the LA Kings, the org who recently put on the record that they'd like to use all their AHL waiver eligibility years on said prospects.

It should suppress AAV's on 2nd contracts & leave plenty of room to run out the vet contracts like Brown.

We just can't have nice things.

 

[bert]

I don't think either team does this. Turcotte is better than his numbers, and plays the more important position.

Kings would fire Turcotte on a rocket ship to NYR to get this done. It's not remotely close

 

[GaryPoppins]

I don’t get why there are so many that talk about trading/trading for Laf. To me, I see it likely as a Jack Hughes trajectory with likely more upside.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Rangers aren't trading Lafreniere, its not happening.

 

[CupSeeker]

LA has much deeper and more talented prospects pool comparing to NY.
Your surplus players are not needed by Kings at all.

This is untrue; the pools are comparable. Turcotte has a 3C upside at this point; his value falls as he plays; no thanks.

 

[kinghock]

This is untrue; the pools are comparable. Turcotte has a 3C upside at this point; his value falls as he plays; no thanks.

The pools are comparable? LOL
I wonder how many people even from NY fans will agree with your opinion.

 

[Kurrilino]

Rangers aren't trading Lafreniere, its not happening.

Sometimes i wonder who comes up with that idea over and over again after both parties agree this will not happening.
I am absolutely convinced, Laf will hit the 20 goal mark this year and 30 maybe 2 years after.
The rangers will have a 30 goal winger for a long time.

Including him into trade offers is nuts

 

[Rsswmu]

The pools are comparable? LOL
I wonder how many people even from NY fans will agree with your opinion.

As a Ranger fan I would trade our pool for the Kings in a heart beat. If you are talking 24 and under players it’s a different discussion. But the Rangers have or in process of graduating a lot of the blue chip prospects.

 

[sasha barkov]

Sometimes i wonder who comes up with that idea over and over again after both parties agree this will not happening.
I am absolutely convinced, Laf will hit the 20 goal mark this year and 30 maybe 2 years after.
The rangers will have a 30 goal winger for a long time.

Including him into trade offers is nuts

Ehhhh dont see it happening

I see the proposal as swapping likely busts

laf wont ever hit 30 goals nor will turcotte

 

[bsu]

I wouldn't trade Laf for 2 Turcottes at this exact moment. Turcotte hasn't shown much at the pro level and is always injured. Laf is playing in a smaller role than he should which is leading to some deceiving numbers. Now that he is playing with better players his numbers are going up.

 

[5cotland]

Ehhhh dont see it happening

I see the proposal as swapping likely busts

laf wont ever hit 30 goals nor will turcotte

The fact you are labelling Lafreniere a bust only 18 months after being drafted is a joke

 

[sasha barkov]

The fact you are labelling Lafreniere a bust only 18 months after being drafted is a joke

his production thus far is a joke for a first overall draft pick

 

[bsu]

his production thus far is a joke for a first overall draft pick

He has scored 25 goals in the NHL already. Byfield has scored 2 goals in the NHL already. They are both young, you are overacting.