Speculation: LA Kings with heavy interest in Landeskog

[YP44]

I wonder if DL knew that Taylor Hall was available, for a top D, if he'd have offered/packaged Muzzin

I am guessing at the time he knew that he was available however at the time Forbort was more of a question mark, as was gravel. I know small sample size but I have loved Forbort and I am guessing the only reason why potentially moving out a d-man is because of how well he has played.

At the start of the year the Kings D looked a lot worse than it does now.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Me thinks Vrbata goes to the hawks

Or do they go crazy trading another first round pick and top prospect for Vanek.

 

[YP44]

Or do they go crazy trading another first round pick and top prospect for Vanek.

no way is Vanek worth either of those let along both.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

no way is Vanek worth either of those let along both.

Might be the best rental forward available. Someone will overpay.

 

[Johnny Utah]

It wasn't just Kings Scouts at the Flyers/Sabres game last night, according one of the Buffalo media, the Kings have been actively scouting Kane (sabres games) for 2 months.

He noted that the broken ribs are finally healedand Kane has been very physical, throwing his weight around and playing well. And it could be the time off and his agent convinced him to play for a trade. Head case? yes. Problem child? Yes. But didn't DL say you can't have a lockerroom full of choir boys? Helluva talent but a risk...
ANd if the asking price for Landy is too rich for his blood, it could be Kane isn't. No secret the Sabres are trying/have been trying to move him for months.

Sabres are looking for a top 4 d, who is a puck moving leftie than can work a PP.
And Terry Murray is the defense coach there and knows the Kings d well.

They won't protect Kane in the draft, so his price tag could be dropping...

I would love Evander Kane. That would be great for the community and add another Simmonds type to the fold.

My concern with him is his attitude. He has problems both in Winnipeg and Buffalo now, imagine if he comes to a city like Los Angeles now.

 

[AlphaBravo]

Based on these recent rumors regarding Tampa, I think the Kings would make better trade partners for them. Tampa is in their cup window and is desperate to make a trade now to make a playoff push. The Kings need a trade now to help them as well. Colorado, on the other hand, can take their sweet time into the off season and just push up the prices.

I am uncomfortable trading Muzzin or Martinez, but trading McNabb makes sense on a lot of levels. First, although he is not an elite or number 2 defenseman, I think based on his play here in LA, he is good enough to fetch a secondary scorer. Tampa is loaded with forwards and is willing to move one. McNabb will provide some stability to their defense, and with the rise of Forbort and Gravel, we really have no use for McNabb, considering we may lose him in the expansion draft anyways.

I wouldn't mind doing a McNabb for Boyle and 2nd round pick trade if one can be worked out. Boyle has the size to play LA style, would be perfect on the 3rd or 4th line, and has some offensive upside.

 

[theMajor]

I don't know. Stoll is back in some capacity, if Richards could still play we never even know about the border thing, and he did let Voynov practice with the team that one time while he was suspended.

Stoll walked in free agency. Richards was bought out. Dean letting Voynov practice once doesnt really mean much in the grand scheme of things. none of these things really lend any credence to the point I think you're trying to make. E Kane has a LOT of upside and is an extremely talented player. I think its realistic that Dean could trade for him but I dont want it to happen just cause of the potential risks concerning his behavior. we already have enough fans complaining about Brown and Gaborik, can you imagine if we get Kane and he's a dud? I cringe thinking about it. my opinions aside, Buff and LA have made good trade partners in the past. this could happen. if it does, I just hope it doesnt involve our first round pick this year

 

[BigKing]

Based on these recent rumors regarding Tampa, I think the Kings would make better trade partners for them. Tampa is in their cup window and is desperate to make a trade now to make a playoff push. The Kings need a trade now to help them as well. Colorado, on the other hand, can take their sweet time into the off season and just push up the prices.

I am uncomfortable trading Muzzin or Martinez, but trading McNabb makes sense on a lot of levels. First, although he is not an elite or number 2 defenseman, I think based on his play here in LA, he is good enough to fetch a secondary scorer. Tampa is loaded with forwards and is willing to move one. McNabb will provide some stability to their defense, and with the rise of Forbort and Gravel, we really have no use for McNabb, considering we may lose him in the expansion draft anyways.

I wouldn't mind doing a McNabb for Boyle and 2nd round pick trade if one can be worked out. Boyle has the size to play LA style, would be perfect on the 3rd or 4th line, and has some offensive upside.

Brian Boyle? That's disgusting and doesn't help the team this season at all at the expense of McNabb.

Unless they can get a legit offensive threat, they shouldn't be trading any of the young guys at this point. If they feel they are out of it at the deadline and can do something to get a pick back for a guy they might lose in the expansion draft then okay, but Boyle is not a solution to any on-ice problems.

 

[Trolfoli]

I wonder if DL knew that Taylor Hall was available, for a top D, if he'd have offered/packaged Muzzin

EDM needed RHD.

Maybe if the price tag for Landy is too high, DL can call Stevie Y...


http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/mckenzie-something-has-got-to-give-for-struggling-lightning/

Bob McKenzie on TSN's 1040 on Tuesday theorized that the Bolts D is dreadful, and I they don't make a move soon for top 4 d help, they might not make the playoffs.
And as has been common knowledge, they have a boatload of contracts, heavy on forwards, to be signed this summer and can't afford to keep them all.




Elliotte Friedman spoke to that same thing earlier this week on the radio.

Asked on the trade section thread about Tampa's D and RHD was what they were saying they needed.

We should just swap Muzzin's stick with a Doughty one and everything would be perfect.

 

[AlphaBravo]

Brian Boyle? That's disgusting and doesn't help the team this season at all at the expense of McNabb.

Unless they can get a legit offensive threat, they shouldn't be trading any of the young guys at this point. If they feel they are out of it at the deadline and can do something to get a pick back for a guy they might lose in the expansion draft then okay, but Boyle is not a solution to any on-ice problems.

We are overloaded with left handed defenseman, and will likely lose McNabb in the expansion draft. McNabb's value is not high enough to fetch a top sixer, so if we can get a physical depth guy who can score at a Dwight King level (10-15 goals), it helps the team and also provides us a 2nd rounder to stock pile our cupboard.

 

[deeshamrock]

http://www.fanragsports.com/news/friedman-think-price-higher-duchene-than-landeskog/

Cost of doing business for Landy (from 630 CHED radio today)

Darren Dreger indicated it could be “a top-level defenseman, a first-round draft pick, plus,†which he said some have deemed “a bit outrageous.â€

Too rich for DL's blood...(and quite a few other GM's too) but someone will bite. As EF pointed out, high character player , young, good paper and top 6 forward.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Based on these recent rumors regarding Tampa, I think the Kings would make better trade partners for them. Tampa is in their cup window and is desperate to make a trade now to make a playoff push. The Kings need a trade now to help them as well. Colorado, on the other hand, can take their sweet time into the off season and just push up the prices.

I am uncomfortable trading Muzzin or Martinez, but trading McNabb makes sense on a lot of levels. First, although he is not an elite or number 2 defenseman, I think based on his play here in LA, he is good enough to fetch a secondary scorer. Tampa is loaded with forwards and is willing to move one. McNabb will provide some stability to their defense, and with the rise of Forbort and Gravel, we really have no use for McNabb, considering we may lose him in the expansion draft anyways.

I wouldn't mind doing a McNabb for Boyle and 2nd round pick trade if one can be worked out. Boyle has the size to play LA style, would be perfect on the 3rd or 4th line, and has some offensive upside.

Brian Boyle? That's a "we're one piece away from winning" type move. UFA at the end of this season making more money than the Kings can afford to pay him. You don't trade two futures for a guy like that.

 

[tsanuri]

We are overloaded with left handed defenseman, and will likely lose McNabb in the expansion draft. McNabb's value is not high enough to fetch a top sixer, so if we can get a physical depth guy who can score at a Dwight King level (10-15 goals), it helps the team and also provides us a 2nd rounder to stock pile our cupboard.

Almost every team is overloaded on the left side.
But a depth guy scoring 10-15 goals on this team is a joke. Our top line guys are in or barely above that range in most years.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Stoll walked in free agency.

http://lakingsinsider.com/2017/01/11/stoll-gains-experience-open-ended-development-internship/

He walked, but his party habits don't seem to have stopped Lombardi from letting him be around the team in Ontario. If he could still play, and still had a year left on his deal, is he really gone from the team after 2015?

Richards was bought out

He was, but not before Lombardi believed in the myth of Mike Richards the previous summer. If he was still capable of being even a 3rd line center, does Lombardi really buy him out after that less than major international border incident?

Dean letting Voynov practice once doesnt really mean much in the grand scheme of things. none of these things really lend any credence to the point I think you're trying to make

Voynov is probably gone either way, but we also saw the World Series champs have a guy in a similar situation. If things are a bit different, if Voynov is American for example, maybe Lombardi could've at least gotten something for him in a trade.

E Kane has a LOT of upside and is an extremely talented player. I think its realistic that Dean could trade for him but I dont want it to happen just cause of the potential risks concerning his behavior. we already have enough fans complaining about Brown and Gaborik, can you imagine if we get Kane and he's a dud? I cringe thinking about it. my opinions aside, Buff and LA have made good trade partners in the past. this could happen. if it does, I just hope it doesnt involve our first round pick this year

I'm just saying, I don't think Lombardi is that special. If he thinks Kane can play, I'm not sure simple behavior will keep him from doing a deal. Kane has 1 year left on his contract after this season. If he's a dud, he's nowhere close to Brown or Gaborik. Just let him walk. Of course, it all depends on what he would have to trade to get a guy with 1 year until he's a UFA, and has some issues. I think that would be the determining factor if Lombardi is interested, not what happened with some players a couple years ago.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Brown and Martinez for Kane and Bogosian do it Deano

 

[BigKing]

We are overloaded with left handed defenseman, and will likely lose McNabb in the expansion draft. McNabb's value is not high enough to fetch a top sixer, so if we can get a physical depth guy who can score at a Dwight King level (10-15 goals), it helps the team and also provides us a 2nd rounder to stock pile our cupboard.

Boyle in and McNabb out does not help the team this season. McNabb is more important. I'd only be interested in something like this at the deadline if they are completely out of it and it somehow guarantees they don't lose someone they really care about for nothing, as might happen with McNabb. Even then, just give me the pick unless Boyle becomes expansion draft fodder.

 

[Johnny Utah]

If that is the asking price for Landy, that is too high and Kings can't spare another 1st.

I would focus on Kane.

Iginla is too old and makes too much.

 

[YP44]

Brown and Martinez for Kane and Bogosian do it Deano

no way Buffalo does that.

What about Gaborik and Martinez for Kane and Moulson....than LA deals a 3rd plus king to the Devils for Cammy. Call up Purcell and get Boyle from Tampa (not at the price of McNabb), all former kings return!!

In seriousness the Gaborik and Martinez for Kane and Moulson would intrigue me as Moulson's deal is off the books two years sooner and would align with when Doughty becomes a UFA.

 

[YP44]

If that is the asking price for Landy, that is too high and Kings can't spare another 1st.

I would focus on Kane.

Iginla is too old and makes too much.

I agree if the price is a top 4 D-man, 1st and prospect that is too much. However I would not rule out dealing a first for a top level forward locked in longterm. Would basically be carter trade 2.0. The first would have to come with the condition of LA winning the cup. Cause then who the hell cares. If people say LA is stupid for always dealing 1st and that the pipeline sucks, we can just throw the 3rd cup in their face.

Edit: I also agree on Kane. Cost is less but still would be a great add

 

[AlphaBravo]

The ask for Landeskog is insane. Dean better not bite on that. There is no way we are giving up Muzzin, a 1st and a plus for a winger. I think it will be better to keep our top 4 defensemen until next year. At that point, we will have a better grasp of whether Forbort can sustain his good play, whether Gravel can be consistent, and if there is any chance LaDue can play full time in the second pairing. Once those issues are resolved, then we can decide if it is worth moving Muzzin or A-Mart for a top 6 winger.

With respect to McNabb, I think there is a split on how people view him. My personal opinion is that he is a decent defenseman, but has no more upside or potential. He is solid on the bottom pairing, but I think Forbort (and maybe Gravel) has surpassed him. If we can get a draft pick for him either at the trade deadline or before the draft, instead of losing him, I am all for it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Re: McNabb, I think his potential is a Muzzin clone. Neither guy can skate well enough to lug the puck to be a more offensive player like Doughty or Martinez, but both are good with defensive responsibilities and breakout passes with moments of questionable IQ. I DO think he has good value, though, the problem is that we have some redundancies right now.

If the ask for Landy is that high then good on Sakic for now, they're in no hurry obviously. But I don't see DL getting rid of a 1st this year even for a long-term guy like Landeskog unless we go on a CBJ-esque winning streak but still need offense.

 

[Reaper45]

The ask for Landeskog is insane. Dean better not bite on that. There is no way we are giving up Muzzin, a 1st and a plus for a winger. I think it will be better to keep our top 4 defensemen until next year. At that point, we will have a better grasp of whether Forbort can sustain his good play, whether Gravel can be consistent, and if there is any chance LaDue can play full time in the second pairing. Once those issues are resolved, then we can decide if it is worth moving Muzzin or A-Mart for a top 6 winger.

With respect to McNabb, I think there is a split on how people view him. My personal opinion is that he is a decent defenseman, but has no more upside or potential. He is solid on the bottom pairing, but I think Forbort (and maybe Gravel) has surpassed him. If we can get a draft pick for him either at the trade deadline or before the draft, instead of losing him, I am all for it.

so to understand your logic you'd rather trade McNabb than lose him in the expansion? Meaning you'd rather lose him and say Lewis or him and Forbort than just him?

 

[YP44]

Re: McNabb, I think his potential is a Muzzin clone. Neither guy can skate well enough to lug the puck to be a more offensive player like Doughty or Martinez, but both are good with defensive responsibilities and breakout passes with moments of questionable IQ. I DO think he has good value, though, the problem is that we have some redundancies right now.

If the ask for Landy is that high then good on Sakic for now, they're in no hurry obviously. But I don't see DL getting rid of a 1st this year even for a long-term guy like Landeskog unless we go on a CBJ-esque winning streak but still need offense.

I think McNabb is more physical where as Muzzin is better in the offensive zone.

 

[BigKing]

so to understand your logic you'd rather trade McNabb than lose him in the expansion? Meaning you'd rather lose him and say Lewis or him and Forbort than just him?

Would it be that Boyle replaces McNabb on the unprotected list and Forbort gets protected? Hope they take Boyle? Does Boyle have another year on the contract?

RE: Kane and his issues.

So he's had issues in Winnipeg and Buffalo so someone mentioned "Imagine him in LA". I totally understand that line of reasoning but, on the flip side, maybe he would be happy for the first time since he'd be in a great city (i.e. major metro area, weather etc.) plus the fact that he wouldn't have too much scrutiny on him in the media as he surely did in Winnipeg and has now in Buffalo.

I would love the team to take a chance on him at the right cost. Also, the kid needs to be on a team with strong leadership. Not throwing shade at ATL/WPG/BUF, but those were/are all teams that are young and generally don't have a ton of guys that have won a Cup, let alone won one (or two) together. This organization has created a culture and I think that fact leads to a strong possibility that Kane could come in and not be a problem.

DL loves his reclamation projects he can get on the cheap. Carter was a whiny ***** when that trade was made and he got him for below what his market value should have been. Gaborik. Vinny. Even Regher kind of.

There are only a handful of teams that should even think about Kane since they have the proper leadership and franchise culture. Then it comes down to what teams out of those need him, want him or have the assets to part with.

If DL is going to really improve this team, he's going to need to get a bargain and have it be a steal.

 

[YP44]

so to understand your logic you'd rather trade McNabb than lose him in the expansion? Meaning you'd rather lose him and say Lewis or him and Forbort than just him?

If LA feels Vegas is going to take one of McNabb or Forbort (which ever one is left unprotected) than I would be ok with dean dealing one of them for a pick at the end of the season but before the expansion draft.

If DL deals Forbort for a 2nd and protects Drew, Muzzin, Martinez and McNabb on D. Vegas could then take a Lewis or something..Works for me.