tny760
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Speculation: LA Kings Offseason Thread
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I’m assuming Easton Armstrong is Derek Armstong’s son? He and Modey’s kid are absolute units going by their physical stats..
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Ziggy Stardust
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Remember when Drew told all of Calgary to suck his dick? He really meant it.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
Great to see a Modry in a Kings uniform again.
kingsfan28
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King'sPawn
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Excited to see the younger players play. I remember liking Tschigerl in his draft year in my limited viewings. Could be another decent bottom-six player if they wanted to sign him to a contract.
Nickster
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Found this on LAK Reddit... If you want a picture of who PLD is, and will be for the Kings, this is a good interview, really current, long and talks a lot about the Kings. I've never seen these guys before, but they are local, and seem to have a lot of NHL/Kings connections:
Can we all stop with the Doughty wife talk...
We have the Rookie Tourney, the TV Deal (which is annoying as f to talk about also), the debut of PLD, Talbot, Englund, and potentially seeing a healthy Turcotte, Thomas. Much more exciting things than Doughty's divorce.
We have the Rookie Tourney, the TV Deal (which is annoying as f to talk about also), the debut of PLD, Talbot, Englund, and potentially seeing a healthy Turcotte, Thomas. Much more exciting things than Doughty's divorce.
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Lt Dan
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tigermask48
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Is he a legit prospect or just a courtesy invite to fill out a roster? The size is enticing but he's 24 and never played higher than the ECHL. My instinct says courtesy invite...
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He is a warm body to help ice a full roster for multiple games across different continents during the same timeframe.
Sol
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Just because you live under a rock and have zero clue what you’re talking about is a you problem. And yes there’s predatory women and predatory men. Since that is outside of your world view then you definitely are delusional and sexist. No I’m not gonna flood the thread with that content either so stop whining and give it a rest. Let the prospect talk continue.
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Using a model to predict for another model doesn't really work. Those sample sizes are way too low for that time frame to mean anything. Also, going back to 1990 means there is going to be variations in age of drafted players. Far too many variables involved. The AHL is also way different than it was 30 years ago. With the development of USA Hockey and players utilizing college more, it really skews the numbers.
Interesting analysis, but it looks more like an exercise of coming up with models to support a conclusion that was already made.
johnjm22
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I don't have strong feelings on the analysis. There is some correlation though.
I posted it because some Kings prospects are mentioned.
It's not exactly a profound discovery to find that the more a player produces early on in the AHL means their more likely to have success than those who don't.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Production does matter, especially when it comes to forwards you used high picks on. That is why the "stat watching" stuff never made sense to me when it came to many of the Kings high picks who struggled offensively immediately upon entering the organization. I mean if you use a top-10 pick on a forward and the player just doesn't score at levels even close to where he should, it's not "stat watching" to point it out, it's a very big problem and should be discussed as one, because in the majority of cases the player does not recover to what the pre-draft expectation was. But often times fans and teams themselves defer to excuses as to why the production hasn't been there, even when it's not close to being there. This is why I think NHL teams should be more aggressive in looking to trade young players if there is any concern about the player not only failing to return the draft capital used on them but more importantly if they will reach whatever their current value is at the time. And in theory the team itself should be more onto flaws in the player than maybe the rest of the league is, as they aren't paying as much attention and may continue to defer to their pre-draft analysis, where the player was heavily scouted. This is why I would have traded Turcotte at either the 2020 or 2021 drafts, not only did the drafting of QB block a likely path for him in both the immediate and the long-term, the Kings were also going to be going in a different direction with the Danault signing, there was literally no room. Faber and Grans are the two notable young players who were actually moved. Faber had (other than Clarke) probably the most dominant D+1/D+2 seasons of any prospect taken by Blake and was the major piece in a trade for a fringe star winger, which as much love Faber was a good trade for what the Kings were trying to accomplish. And Grans was probably declining a bit and was part of the CP cap debacle, so harder to evaluate.
As far as Thomas, he has obviously battled injuries. He showed some offensive production last year in a small sample size, the tough thing for him, as discussed before is the competition from other similar players, guys who he will be fighting for those bottom line scraps. Laferriere, Turcotte, JAD. There are just so few spots for these guys. And a guy like Thomas is beginning to age out, he turns 24 in January, if you are 24 and not yet an NHL regular (never even played a game) the odds are pretty against you becoming one after that. This is why it's such an important camp for guys like him and JAD.
Obviously as you go further down the draft production doesn't matter as much as you are more likely to be looking for depth pieces or taking shots on flawed players. But at the top, yeah it matters, a lot.
As far as Thomas, he has obviously battled injuries. He showed some offensive production last year in a small sample size, the tough thing for him, as discussed before is the competition from other similar players, guys who he will be fighting for those bottom line scraps. Laferriere, Turcotte, JAD. There are just so few spots for these guys. And a guy like Thomas is beginning to age out, he turns 24 in January, if you are 24 and not yet an NHL regular (never even played a game) the odds are pretty against you becoming one after that. This is why it's such an important camp for guys like him and JAD.
Obviously as you go further down the draft production doesn't matter as much as you are more likely to be looking for depth pieces or taking shots on flawed players. But at the top, yeah it matters, a lot.
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Little Psycho
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Hmm always got chill vibes from her, usually can tell the bitchy ones apart. Though Drew has mellowed out since becoming a dad. Sucks for the kids.
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I feel bad for the people flying out potentially to Melbourne to watch the Kings play a nothing game lol. Especially against the Yotes. Think it’d be much more interesting for the Kings to have some exhibition matches against the Oilers/Flames/Knights. No one cares about the Coyotes.
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The problem is it lacks context. Thomas is in his group B but lack the serious injury’s he’s had and the recovery from them.
edit: didn’t read other replies before I responded.
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