Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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Iafallo is a better player than Laine.
Hes a more rounded player. But he has never taken over a game and been as dangerous in the offensive zone like Laine has. The Kings have a lot of well rounded forwards on the team also. You could substitute Arvidsson for Iafallo as his salary going the other way would probably work but I dont think hes going anywhere after a season.
 
You guys need to stop with the awesome trade ideas because in the end, they’re simply not going to happen… just listen to Rob, he’s still says the team is in the last phase of their rebuild which is damn impressive considering how the team has looked…
The truth is, our big addition will come in the off-season via UFA, I don’t see the team selling off kids just yet.. I do think the 2022 1st is in play and maybe some of our prospects in the 10-20 range but that’s it
 
I think contract price savings.If Vilardi started pulling a Kempe and lightening it up,the Kings negotiations position wouldn't be good and wouldnt be able to resign Vilardi to a cheap extention.

I see what you did. I was referencing the other half of your sentence. Why would they bring him up, and where would he play? Provided they continue as a playoff team, Brown isn't going to sit, and neither is AA. There's nowhere for Vilardi to play. Unless they have a spot clinched, and they expand rosters. Or, injury.
 
Hes a more rounded player. But he has never taken over a game and been as dangerous in the offensive zone like Laine has. The Kings have a lot of well rounded forwards on the team also. You could substitute Arvidsson for Iafallo as his salary going the other way would probably work but I dont think hes going anywhere after a season.
Iafallo has also not disappeared for weeks at a time, shown little interest in defending or alienated multiple head coaches and hasn't played his way out of an organization.

Laine is something you add when the room can absorb him and all you need is an offensive boost. The Kings aren't there yet.
 
I live in

Unfortunately I have.. I moved to Vegas and between going back to LA, Vegas and Phoenix I gotten either free tickets or super cheap tickets when the Avs played the Yotes… VGK tickets are damn expensive.. Also saw the wild game versus the shorks in SJ.. the wife is a sharks fan from the bay and my brother in law is a Knights fan:skeptic:

Sounds like any kid you have will be a ducks fan. :eek:
 
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Iafallo has also not disappeared for weeks at a time, shown little interest in defending or alienated multiple head coaches and hasn't played his way out of an organization.
To my knowledge Alex has also never been addicted to video games.
 
There is no money to sign a Laine.Some of that cap is already spoken for to resign some of the kids and Kempe is getting a raise. Who are you going to trade that has the value to make a trade work and not make another hole? Kings got holes to fill in the offseason. Mayor did a whole article on it breaking it down.

I guess it depends on what Kempe resigns for but let's assume he gets $6 mill per on a six year deal. I'll also assume Lemieux reups for $1.7 million per and Lizotte reups for $1.1 million per, JAD does a one year deal at $850,000 and that we trade away Grundstrom and Andersson. On defense, I'll assume we resign Anderson at $3 million per on a three year deal, Durzi at $2 million per on a two year deal and Moverare resigns for one year at $850,000. The other question mark is what Laine would resign for. That'll be hard to figure out given he's more prone to getting any range of term on a deal but let's assume he goes around $7.5 million per.

For next year, assuming no trades, we have:

Kopitar: $10 mill cap hit
Danault: $5.5 mill
Arvidsson: $4.25 mill
Iafallo: $4 mill
Kempe: $6 mill
Moore: $1.875 mill
Lemieux: $1.7 mill
Kaliyev: $894,167
Byfield: $894,167
Lizotte: $1.1 mill
Laine: $7.5 mill
Kupari: $863,333
Turcotte: $894,167
JAD: $850,000

Total forwards: $46,320,834 cap hit

Doughty: $11 mill
Roy: $3.15 mill
Bjornfot: $894,167
Anderson: $3 mill
Durzi $2 mill
Clarke: $894,167
Walker: $2.65 mill

Total defense: $23,588,334 cap hit

Quick: $5.8 mill
Peterson: $5 mill

Total goalies: $10.8 million cap hit

Buried penalty for Wagner: $8,333
Buyout for Phaneuf: $1,062,500
The Mike Richards neverending buyout: $900,000

Total cap hit: $82,680,001

If the cap goes to $83 million as projected, it works.

Who would I send the otherway in a Laine deal? It'd have to be most picks/prospects so guys like Vilardi, Turcotte, Kupari, etc. If they want bodies back I'd offer up one of Roy/Anderson/Walker on defense and offer Arvidsson or see if they want to buy high on Moore. Replacing a forward from within should be manageable since that's where most of our top prospects are plus Laine would obviously replace 18-22 minutes a night up front. Replacing a defenseman would be more difficult but we do have some more veteran prospects that could help do so in Moverare, Spence, Strand or we could use the money to try and get another Edler type on the UFA market as a stop gap.

The next off-season we have only Moore and Bjornfot to reup and we have Quick coming off the books, as well as the Phanuef buyout and the Richards buyout drops to $700,000, so that'll give us approximately $10 mill to replace Quick, resign Moore and Bjornfot. The year after that Kopitar, Arvidsson, Roy and Walker come off the books and while some will be resigned it'll free up some cap space as well. If there's one thing I'll give Blake kudos for it's staggering the contracts so there's cap flexibility each off-season.

Obviously I could be off on some of the estimated resign costs but I don't think by much and it's within reach to make it happen.

I think it's all doable to get Laine and still manage the cap.
 
Laine would work capwise if they send Roy/Walker and Iafallo in the package back the other way along with the futures Columbus wants. Would have to be an offseason move. If they think Clarke can replace Roy on the second pair and Laine comes in for Iafallo in the top six.
Then you create more holes.It doesn't work and the Kings have no cap space.This was already discussed by Mayor's article explaining in detail.The money is also needed to resign our young guys,Kempe is getting a raise as well.
 
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I see what you did. I was referencing the other half of your sentence. Why would they bring him up, and where would he play? Provided they continue as a playoff team, Brown isn't going to sit, and neither is AA. There's nowhere for Vilardi to play. Unless they have a spot clinched, and they expand rosters. Or, injury.
Cause that was the news given to Mayor by the Kings organization.He has a partnership this year with the team.
 
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Then you create holes.It doesn't work and the Kings have no cap.
You arent creating holes if Clarke comes in for Roy and Laine comes in for Iafallo. You also have Spence and Faber that could potentially earn that defense spot and Kaliyev could also on the forward spot. Iafallo and Roy contracts are about equal to Laine but a million less. Im not saying this is something they are going to do or should do but if they want a true goal scorer and dont think Vilardi or Kaliyev can be a top line winger he may be the best player possibly available for the position. Not gonna lie though I wanna see a kempe-byfield-laine line. Big bodies that can control the pace of the entire game with their presence if they hit it off.
 
You arent creating holes if Clarke comes in for Roy and Laine comes in for Iafallo. You also have Spence and Faber that could potentially earn that defense spot and Kaliyev could also on the forward spot. Iafallo and Roy contracts are about equal to Laine but a million less. Im not saying this is something they are going to do or should do but if they want a true goal scorer and dont think Vilardi or Kaliyev can be a top line winger he may be the best player possibly available for the position. Not gonna lie though I wanna see a kempe-byfield-laine line
Ok we'll see how this plays out.Cause Laine needs to be resigned and it's not going to be cheap.I also don't think Blake will give the assets to get the deal done.
 
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I feel like it's always the players no one ever talks about that end up getting moved.

Like we'll end up landing Dylan Strome and Jeremy Lauzon.
I think you’re right.. if we stay in a playoff spot and the ducks sink they might… huge maybe, trade with us.. Lindholm would be a huge help and he’d stay in CA which I think the ducks would do for him especially if they plan on pursuing him in FA
 
Someone else said this and I agree that the team should wait a bit for the new leaders to arise before adding someone thats a potential cancer.. the cup teams had an unshakeable room - and that was design. DL sought out Stoll, Greene, Williams to cement the leadership - then it didnt matter who was added - there was no way they were going to screw up the team.
 
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Domi and Chiarot could be two good short term acquisitions to improve the odds of a strong playoff showing. Like 7-12 games across two rounds. The Kings should be able to make the money work post deadline.

Chiarot will cost a 1st and a prospect. I’d include Kupari. For Domi, I think Grans, AA and a 3rd is good value. Domi could turn into Sam Bennet next to Byfield and Chiarot can finally bump Maata out of the lineup. Is it worth a 1st, Kupari, Grans and a 3rd for an extra 3-8 playoff games?
 
Would you guys do Vilardi and a 1st for Chychrun? The more I think about it, the more I don't want to trade for him. I just think getting Edler back is as good as anything right now. I know we need help on the left side, but he should be tearing it up this year and he isn't.
 
While I have no objection to trading a 1st and a prospect that doesn't fit the Kings plans, I don't think Chiarot is that guy the Kings need to get.
 
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