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Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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Trash Panda said:
Acquiring a high dollar question mark when the entire roster is struggling for identity is a fools errand.

This topic shouldn’t be bridged for another season or two at the soonest. Laine isn’t gonna do anything for this team besides give the marketing department an easy way to sell tickets, and casual fans something to falsely be excited about.

So much more is needed of this group than a sub .5ppg floater with a killer shot can provide. Laine is the sizzle, not the steak.
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Your opinion, so agree to disagree, but not sure where you get sub.500 ppg. The guy has a 1.07 ppg this season and a career ppg of .795. If you ignore games coached by Tortorella, it's .839 ppg.
 
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kingsfan said:
Your opinion, so agree to disagree, but not sure where you get sub.500 ppg. The guy has a 1.07 ppg this season and a career ppg of .795. If you ignore games coached by Tortorella, it's .839 ppg.
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It was a typo. Meant to type “gpg” and snuck ppg in there.

The goal scoring prowess isn’t what is the problem with Laine, but his one positive. It’s cost to acquire, cost to retain, and fitment on a team struggling to figure out what they are in the first place.

It’s along the lines of those clamoring for the Kovalchuck signing back in 2010. It’s a sexy name, but it isn’t what’s gonna make this club a winner again.
 
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If Laine was available the Kings would kick the tires at least. He's only one year older than JAD and Vilardi even though he's approaching 400 NHL games. He certainly does things that no one else on this roster can do. And he's a completely different player than he was last year.

What we would have to send back would hurt, however.
 
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Fishhead said:
If Laine was available the Kings would kick the tires at least. He's only one year older than JAD and Vilardi even though he's approaching 400 NHL games. He certainly does things that no one else on this roster can do. And he's a completely different player than he was last year.

What we would have to send back would hurt, however.
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I still go back to the first game of last season when he was still on the Jets. He was an absolute animal. Dropped the gloves sticking up for his teammates while being an offensive weapon. He has game changing ability. People here would love him and not care about the things opposing fans say about a player they never watch but like to talk trash about.
 
Stimpythecat said:
I read a few reports from last season that Laine's first choice was rumored to be LA. I'll see if I can find it. I'm not on my home computer now so it may be a little bit before I do.
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Schmooley said:
I still go back to the first game of last season when he was still on the Jets. He was an absolute animal. Dropped the gloves sticking up for his teammates while being an offensive weapon. He has game changing ability. People here would love him and not care about the things opposing fans say about a player they never watch but like to talk trash about.
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Well shit, if he chooses not to resign with Columbus, would be great if LA went after him. Kid has some snarl while having top end skill.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Before the Kings make any move for a forward, I want them to bring up Vilardi or JAD and see what they can do.

Try and solve your problems internally first.
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If they were the same type of player, I could possibly agree...but they are in different worlds....different styles, thats like saying, let's not bring in Brett Hull because we have Rod Brindamour in the system.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
If they were the same type of player, I could possibly agree...but they are in different worlds....different styles, thats like saying, let's not bring in Brett Hull because we have Rod Brindamour in the system.
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I wasn't talking specifically about Laine.

The Kings have 3 decent forward lines. They just need to fix that "3rd" line and they'll have a real solid group. Before they try trading for players to fix it, I want them to try internally.

There's not much time left though. Deadline is only a month away. And Todd hasn't shown any interest in playing a young guy over AA/Brown.
 
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Before the Kings make any move for a forward, I want them to bring up Vilardi or JAD and see what they can do.

Try and solve your problems internally first.
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Unless the Reign lose early, and the Kings go on a run, I would think this Kings year is over for Vilardi and JAD. Other than injury obviously.

I know we hate AA, but he has the 3rd highest ES gpg % on the team.
 
We as Kings fans are going to look back one day and rue the day Vilardi was traded away. The trade package will be complained about for many years in the future. I can already see Ziggy's "This day in Kings history" post in 2035 and 'wow, that was really, REALLY bad' comment.
 
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TruKingFan said:
Me neither really. If the Cryotes want Vilardi then Kings should demand a direct swap. Nothing else. If Cryotes want more, then pass and just keep Vilardi. I think Moverare can step up.
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Correct me if I’m wrong on this but didn’t the Athletic print that the Kings would need to part with Vilardi, Bjornfot, Moore and a 1st.. and everyone in here said they’d do that in a heartbeat but the cryotes wouldn’t accept it because it wasn’t enough.. what’s everyone’s thoughts on that now???
 
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He's mediocre defensively. He gets injured almost every year. He's a UFA in 3 years.

He has a real good shot though.

What's interesting about his 18 goal season, is that he only scored 5 of them on the PP. 13 ES goals in 56 games. That's a lot for a dman.
 
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Yeah I'm over Chychrun. I have no doubt he would be good, but I don't think he's worth whatever their asking price is. I think if you give up a Turcotte or a Vilardi I think we'd end up regretting it down the line. 1st, Kupari and Grans and maybe something else would probably the most i'd want to give up. If the Yotes are dead set on either Turcotte or Vilardi I say we walk away
 
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kingsfan said:
I can't think of anyone internally who has 40-50 goal upside. There isn't an internal option for a guy like Laine.
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Let’s go over cup winners for the last decade and see how many of them had a skater who scored 40 goals that season.

2011- Boston: none
2012- LA: none
2013- Chicago: none
2014- LA: none
2015- Chicago: none
2016- Pittsburgh: none
2017- Pittsburgh: Crosby with 44
2018- Washington: Ovechkin with 49
2019- St. Louis: None
2020- Tampa: None
2021- Tampa: None


This isn’t to say that successful teams don’t have players capable of scoring 40-50 goals on them, but it is far from being the dictating factor for success that some would make it be.

Teams win championships, and flashy style of goal scoring in particular dries up in the playoffs where things tighten up.

You need skill, but you need a cohesive team much more so.
 
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Since Oct. 29, the Kings have a .651 points percentage. That is good for 9th in the NHL over that span. That is with a dodgy special teams and not having Doty for 20 games.

Fix the special teams to just league average and the Kings would be even better. That's much easier than marginally improving an already good special teams.
 
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For the people that go, OMG we can't trade Vilardi....where do you see him slotting in?

Kempe, Byfield, Fagemo
Turcotte, Danault, Kaliyev

Just spit balling possible top six lineups, that's without Chromiak or other type prospects coming in,

So where do you slot Vilardi in?
 
Don't trade for Chychrun. He took advantage of a bad division last year and the Coyotes are trying to sell him while he still has some of that value. It would be like buying a house in the summer of 2007 right before the housing market crash. Just wait for Edler to return.
 
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What’s the scouting report of Jakob Chychrun? Been watching him for years but never really noticed him. Looks like he’s jacked and in great shape but doesn’t really hit or fight? Weird when you are that strong.

My fear is the Kings include Durzi or Bjornfot in the deal and they end up turning out just as good as Chychrun.

I would imagine the Yotes will want Vilardi, one of Durzi, Bjornfot, Faber and a 1st.
 
Since it’s rumored that Phoenix is looking for a goalie prospect. Could Peterson be included in the package. He is signed multiple years, something that may appeal to the Coyotes.

Quick is still playing well and there are lots of free agent goalies in the next few years that are as good if not better then Peterson.

maybe re-visit Campbell or Kuemper.

just thinking outside the box
 
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