Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

[Steve Zissou]

I think what makes those masks hilarious aren't just the missing teeth but rather the mustache and beard that is included free of charge.

 

[deaderhead28]

You 100% move Iafallo for Carlo given the opportunity.

We disagree,if Kings were a contending team and had someone that could fill Iafallo spot sure.Buti dont think theres one on the roster or in Ontario right now.Kings need cost effective players as well with about 8 million in cap space next year as it is. Use another piece that makes more sense.Plus this team isn't a contender and no need move assets for Carlo this year.

 

[kingsfan]

We disagree,if Kings were a contending team and had someone that could fill Iafallo spot sure.Buti dont think theres one on the roster or in Ontario right now.Kings need cost effective players as well with about 8 million in cap space next year as it is. Use another piece that makes more sense.Plus this team isn't a contender and no need move assets for Carlo this year.

I don't necessarily disagree, but Carlo is both an effective cost controlled player for many more years at basically the same cap hit as Iafallo and he'll be here for more than just this year.

 

[JeanBlanc]

Are there any whispers that Owen Power doesn't want to play in Buffalo?

 

[Statto]

Todd can f***ing piss right off

It’s a deliberately misleading ‘quote’ with sections of what was said removed. It means it’s completely lost context. The full quote reads very differently.

 

[johnjm22]

I don't see any issue with that quote from Todd. Sounds like he just wants him to be more assertive.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

I don't see any issue with that quote from Todd. Sounds like he just wants him to be more assertive.

That’s probably cause you are rationale.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't see any issue with that quote from Todd. Sounds like he just wants him to be more assertive.

Typical QB shift
Dig puck out in corner or off boards since other forwards are worthless, or receive puck from dman
Outlet to Brown and watch the puck go thru his stick or outlet to AA who isn't where he's supposed to be
Puck goes back into corner, rinse, repeat

If puck advances into neutral zone/ozone
QB has to hang back as f3 while brown or AA feebly turns the puck over

hard to be 'more assertive' when you only get every 5th-6th shift with the worst possible complements on the team. Not even going to dive into the numbers again, only that Danault and Kopitar were both literally 5-10% worse with either one of these guys, never mind both, so complaining that Byfield can't carry them is bullshit, might as well tie his skates together. It's just not productive feedback given how much he was crushing it with literally anyone else...and then suddenly without ANY reason TM literally cut his minutes in half and threw AA in the mix too.

 

[bmr]

It’s a deliberately misleading ‘quote’ with sections of what was said removed. It means it’s completely lost context. The full quote reads very differently.

Completely agree - and called it out on Twitter too. They read totally different.

 

[Piston]

By field would be better off in Ontario playing big minutes than being saddled with Brown. Anyone can see that Brown is hurting this team. Loyalty only goes so far. It’s time to hang them up, Dustin

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Completely agree - and called it out on Twitter too. They read totally different.

Please stop…the Kings brass hates the kids and Todd really sucks, the end.

 

[bmr]

Please stop…the Kings brass hates the kids and Todd really sucks, the end.

Totally.

I agree with what Todd said, but Bernstein's quotes are misleading and distort the context.

 

[KingsFan7824]

By field would be better off in Ontario playing big minutes than being saddled with Brown. Anyone can see that Brown is hurting this team. Loyalty only goes so far. It’s time to hang them up, Dustin

Brown isn't retiring in Feb, and Tynan is leading the Reign to where they're going this year.

 

[Statto]

Completely agree - and called it out on Twitter too. They read totally different.

Don’t anyone get me wrong, I’d much prefer better deployment for Byfield however I can’t be doing with the twisted BS. DB clearly wanted his Twitter feed to be busier.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Don’t anyone get me wrong, I’d much prefer better deployment for Byfield however I can’t be doing with the twisted BS. DB clearly wanted his Twitter feed to be busier.

Even it being a cherry-picked quote, I don't agree with it necessarily being negative as so many here seem to think. When I first read it, I thought of something like this.."we are going to push Byfield to be more assertive" -- that's it.

 

[bmr]

Even it being a cherry-picked quote, I don't agree with it necessarily being negative as so many here seem to think. When I first read it, I thought of something like this.."we are going to push Byfield to be more assertive" -- that's it.

I guess it all comes down to how it's interpreted. My big issue with some media outlets is how paraphrasing and media clips end up losing the essence of the original intent of the message. I don't think it became such a big issue until social media blew up.

 

[Kurrilino]

We disagree,if Kings were a contending team and had someone that could fill Iafallo spot sure.Buti dont think theres one on the roster or in Ontario right now.Kings need cost effective players as well with about 8 million in cap space next year as it is. Use another piece that makes more sense.Plus this team isn't a contender and no need move assets for Carlo this year.

Sorry, i have to side with the other guys,
If a young 6'5 defender who really can play hockey is available, Iafallo will not be on the unavailable list

 

[Kurrilino]

I don't really know to be honest. I'd prefer not to move him, as he's part of the team's future leadership corps and the crown jewel of our botched 2015 draft, but if the right offer came around I do think he's movable. If anything, I'd include him as part of package offer for Byfield maybe.

The intension was to have him on a team with Byfield
But i agree you should really stick with him despite me wanting him badly

 

[Cook24]

According to Seravalli, Canucks getting lots of calls on Boeser…

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

According to Seravalli, Canucks getting lots of calls on Boeser…

The biggest hurdle with Boeser is his upcoming qualifying offer, which will be at $7.5M. He's a productive player who'll soon be turning 25, but I'm not sure if he's a player I would want to spend $7.5M on.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think the quote itself--context or not--is an issue to me because TM talks about Byfield as if he has nothing to do with it. You don't say you want someone to be more assertive while cutting their PP time completely, their playing time in half, and saddle them with less capable linemates. It's talking out both sides of one's mouth.

You want a guy to take the bull by the horns? Give him more responsibility and opportunity.

Last time TM positioned guys like this was right before guys got sent down--it's repetitive. Put them in a position to fail, call them out on it, send back to AHL.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The biggest hurdle with Boeser is his upcoming qualifying offer, which will be at $7.5M. He's a productive player who'll soon be turning 25, but I'm not sure if he's a player I would want to spend $7.5M on.

Was gonna mention the QO. I bet if he moves it's as a rental and someone doesn't qualify him and signs him for less. He's likely to have to 're prove' himself at this point.

Canucks are such a confusing team to me right now. No clue what to make of them.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Was gonna mention the QO. I bet if he moves it's as a rental and someone doesn't qualify him and signs him for less. He's likely to have to 're prove' himself at this point.

Canucks are such a confusing team to me right now. No clue what to make of them.

And that should hurt Boeser's value in the trade market, unless the Canucks granted permission to team's to negotiate an extension.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I think the quote itself--context or not--is an issue to me because TM talks about Byfield as if he has nothing to do with it. You don't say you want someone to be more assertive while cutting their PP time completely, their playing time in half, and saddle them with less capable linemates. It's talking out both sides of one's mouth.

You want a guy to take the bull by the horns? Give him more responsibility and opportunity.

Last time TM positioned guys like this was right before guys got sent down--it's repetitive. Put them in a position to fail, call them out on it, send back to AHL.

Sorry, that's absolutely bullshit, you are giving Byfield a pass on ANY of his ice time, because coach is mean, because his linemates suck, because of this, because of that, that's utter bullshit, Byfield is responsible for his play no one else, you can have absolute shit linemates, and be assertive, look at Kopitar for....the past...how long? 16 years? Hell, McDavid was saddles with goddamn Zack Kassian..... Matthews was saddled with Hyman,

Does having better linemates and more ice time, lead to better results, absolutely, but they aren't looking at results, they are looking at process, when he gets the process down and becomes assertive, maybe he gets better linemates, maybe he gets better ice time, there are games where he's bene out there protecting a lead in the dying minutes, and some that he hasn't.....

But again, they are looking at the process, if he's assertive, and the chances come and he doeesn't convert, who f***ing cares, the process worked and he's getting the chances.....it's nearly the same goddamn argument back in 2012, when Sutter was hired, on a macro level, they were getting the chances, but not converting, for Byfield, he's not putting himself in the right spot to get the chances..... and I know, blame Brown, blame AA, but whatever you do, don't blame the kid who is actually responsible for his play.

 

[Schmooley]

Sorry, that's absolutely bullshit, you are giving Byfield a pass on ANY of his ice time, because coach is mean, because his linemates suck, because of this, because of that, that's utter bullshit, Byfield is responsible for his play no one else, you can have absolute shit linemates, and be assertive, look at Kopitar for....the past...how long? 16 years? Hell, McDavid was saddles with goddamn Zack Kassian..... Matthews was saddled with Hyman,

Does having better linemates and more ice time, lead to better results, absolutely, but they aren't looking at results, they are looking at process, when he gets the process down and becomes assertive, maybe he gets better linemates, maybe he gets better ice time, there are games where he's bene out there protecting a lead in the dying minutes, and some that he hasn't.....

But again, they are looking at the process, if he's assertive, and the chances come and he doeesn't convert, who f***ing cares, the process worked and he's getting the chances.....it's nearly the same goddamn argument back in 2012, when Sutter was hired, on a macro level, they were getting the chances, but not converting, for Byfield, he's not putting himself in the right spot to get the chances..... and I know, blame Brown, blame AA, but whatever you do, don't blame the kid who is actually responsible for his play.

Youre wrong. He looked great in his first couple games. Did you watch last game? Brown couldnt give or take a pass. Neither winger could get it out of the zone until byfield came in and helped making it impossible to get up ice. You put number two overall in the best position to succeed and if he fails you demote him. You dont tie his hands behind his back and ask him to carry two anchors that not even Kopitar could carry this year. Hyman is 10x the linemate aa is and Kassian at that time was better than brown is now.