Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII
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Sol
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Eh that’s not important if he’s NHL ready with his important skillset which is offense
FSL KINGS
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1) I like the Byfield pick. Fight me! 
B) With a little luck & a deadline move or 2 think they could go on a run.
B) With a little luck & a deadline move or 2 think they could go on a run.
If the rookies step up and contribute, goalies play well, and they add a chychrun or patrick kane at the deadline maybe they can go deeper. As is they can probably make the 2nd round if healthy.1) I like the Byfield pick. Fight me!
B) With a little luck & a deadline move or 2 think they could go on a run.
Anybody a little worried on re-signing Moore next year? I just worry he’ll sign for high and not be that great. Like was this season a career year, he’s already 27. It’s not like he’ll get that much better.
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Agree 100%. All of these elite young defensemen didn't even penalty kill their rookie seasons or much into their second seasons.
I don't think they should resign him until after the season is near over and only if it makes sense. Heck I don't think they should resign Arvidsson either when his contract expires. That's the whole point of having these young forwards in the pipeline. It's for them to be cheap productive alternatives. And that's why they should be getting prime ice time now.
The issue with Moore and Arvidsson is that the Kings are against the cap and there are replacements for both. From what I’ve read the Kings really like Moore. But Akil Thomas could eventually fill that role. Same with Arvidsson; Fagemo could fill that role.
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players like Moore are unpredictable for the future. Could become the next St. Louis for all we know. As long as he has his speed, I think he will continue to be as good as he is until his mid-late 30s.
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Todd was on Hoven's podcast and--shocker of all shockers--confirmed we're going to see Kempe-Kopitar-Fiala to start. I've laid it out elsewhere, but I'm skeptical that Kopitar playing with two rush-oriented players instead of one will work at all.
It sounds like the second line to start will be Moore-Danault-Fagemo/Vilardi/Kaliyev (depending on who wins the spot) until Arvidsson comes back. It doesn't sound like Arvidsson will miss much of the start of the season though.
It sounds like the second line to start will be Moore-Danault-Fagemo/Vilardi/Kaliyev (depending on who wins the spot) until Arvidsson comes back. It doesn't sound like Arvidsson will miss much of the start of the season though.
Axl Rhoadz
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Can't you just be thankful it's not Brown or Iafallo and just see how it plays out?
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Kopitar is a much better player when he isn’t deferring to his line mates, especially ones who are perceived as “high skill”.
Couple that with the fact that both Kempe and Fiala make their money off the rush, and it’s just not a great fit. That line needs at least one guy to go retrieve loose pucks & attempt to start an O-zone cycle.
Ironically, a healthy Iafallo is actually an ideally suited winger for an engaged Kopitar.
Axl Rhoadz
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lol, OK coach.
Did some digging, looks like we get our first televised pre-season game one week from today vs VGK. will be shown on NHL network.
IMO neither Arvidson or Moore should be extended when due.
Both are not the players you want in a top 6 if you are truly contending for the cup.
Their asking prices will be way to high just to fill out the top 6 role because nobody else is there
Axl Rhoadz
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Two of the hardest working and productive forwards we’ve had in years are players you don’t want?? W….T…..F
KingsFan7824
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If he puts up 50 again, it's going to cost $5m.
If the Kings are good, that likely means he's doing something. That'll be a tough spot with guys like Arvidsson and Iafallo on the payroll. They could be clever and trade him at the deadline in that scenario, but that's unlikely. If the team sucks, he's probably not doing much, but you could probably get something for him at the deadline. Of course the best outcome would be, Kings suck, but Moore is on his way to 70pts. That's multiple assets at the deadline.
Eh he's not wrong on this point....its gonna depend on price point......if Moore puts up another 50 points, and wants 6 million.....would you pay it? Same with Arvidsson?
I'm fine with them going into this year.....but the year after? I think you need to re-evaluate.
Axl Rhoadz
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I don’t know, if they are playing and producing at a top 6 level, you pay them. If there are other players that can replace them, I guess that’s a different subject. But we don’t have that yet…
Agreed, but how long do you pay them? Do you think they are going to go for a 1-2 year contract? With where LA is...and where those two players are......those aren't the players you lockup for 4-5-6 years....at 6 plus in cap.....cap isn't going up on a rocket trajectory any time soon.....so you have to be aware of that,
And as all the pessissimists will point out, we don't know if we have players to replace them, because those players can't get ice time to play.......like I said, I am ok with them going into this year, but I don't know if I resign them, I think I slot Fagemo and Kaliyev, and Kupari among others into those slots down the road, and you can't do that if Moore and Arvidsson are locked in at 6 years for 6 million each etc.
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It's not an easy spot to be in. But like with Clarke, it again goes back to too many bodies.
They have 6 defensemen on 1 way deals, and a 7th who played the most games as a defenseman for the team last year. It's already 9/19. If they expected Clarke to be on the team, it likely would've made sense to move someone by now. Preferably when there was cap space and roster spots open around the league.
What helps with Moore, as of right now, they do have some cap space next summer, without too many big ticket RFAs coming up. Of course that could change if Vilardi, Kupari, and Anderson have a good year.
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I don’t know, if they are playing and producing at a top 6 level, you pay them. If there are other players that can replace them, I guess that’s a different subject. But we don’t have that yet…
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Arvidsson is a no. He's done very well and been an asset. But roster/cap management with several young guys waiting in the wings is simply a no brainer for letting him go once his deal ends. Even better is the young guys push Arvi out and he gets traded (unlikely unless we fall apart).
Moore is a difficult one. I think that one really comes down to how much he's willing to sign for & term to stay a King versus how AK, Kupari, Fagemo, GV, Thomas, etc. prove they are ready & better going into 2023.
Moore is a difficult one. I think that one really comes down to how much he's willing to sign for & term to stay a King versus how AK, Kupari, Fagemo, GV, Thomas, etc. prove they are ready & better going into 2023.
Arvidsson should be a maybe. It is just too early to tell and depends on how they play and what steps the kids take. You don't throw a 20+ goal 50+ points winger in the trash unless there is a proven player to take his place. Moore is iffy but most of our concerns have to do with his history and pedigree. It is up to Kaliyev, Fagemo, Chromiak, etc. to take those spots and make those guys trade bait. The logjam is real, for at least the next two seasons 5/6 of the top 6 is contract locked so something has gotta give.
Hardworking is not relevant. If you want to go for the cup, your top wingers need to score 30+ goals.
If that happens, hardworking or slacking off doesn't matter.
If you decide to go for the cup, you need other winger.
If winning the cup is unreasonable for any reasons, you don't waste millions on old wingers and focus on your prospect development.
This is a knock on the mentioned wingers, it's just reality applied to every player
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hopefully one of the kids actually pan out and we dont resign him.
Axl Rhoadz
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you left out 'productive'. Last I checked, both players would be considered 2nd line players -- maybe Arvy can be considered 1st or 2nd. Are you implying we should have 4 wingers in the top 2 lines scoring 30+ goals each?
LOL, sign me up and you better hope the cap goes up as well.
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