Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

[tny760]

watch them re-sign brown and trade for hertl and staple him to brown... now that would be good

Man, it sucks they don't play again for a week.

yeah this break sucks, especially given how many other teams are playing in the meanwhile. guess it's an opportunity to see everyone else in action a bit

 

[YP44]

watch them re-sign brown and trade for hertl and staple him to brown... now that would be good



yeah this break sucks, especially given how many other teams are playing in the meanwhile. guess it's an opportunity to see everyone else in action a bit

I am surprised they did not send QB down to keep him playing games. he has played so few since his draft that any games are good games no?

 

[deaderhead28]

Where do you see they have interest in signing him for next season?
That would be a weird strategy. Be really bad and tank for top picks with Brown on the team.
Develop those picks and trade them right when they are ready without ever giving them a chance because Dustin Brown is on the team and they need to go all in and also get more draft picks

“I didn’t get the impression [Brown is] going anywhere. I think he’s going to retire a King and his number retired there too,” Elliotte Friedman said on his 32 Thoughts podcast. “But [Rob] Blake said he’s happy with him as the third-liner on Byfield’s wing to help him out, and we’ll see. His contract is up this summer, right? So I think they just want to have a conversation on where he thinks Brown’s head is. I don’t think they’re rushing to trade him or anything like that.”
Brown and Blake did meet over the All-Star break.
“Brown has been pretty vocal about not wanting to go anywhere. I think the [New York] Islanders last year poked around at him. I’ve got to think everyone [in Los Angeles] is looking that if they can, Dustin Brown retires as an LA King.”
Dustin Brown hoping to stick around in LA past this season

 

[All The Kings Men]

I am surprised they did not send QB down to keep him playing games. he has played so few since his draft that any games are good games no?

It would only have been 2 games and the Reign are already overflowing with forwards.

I'm sure one could argue that hey 2 games is 2 games but in the grand scheme of things I suspect it wouldn't really be worth it.

 

[Schmooley]

“I didn’t get the impression [Brown is] going anywhere. I think he’s going to retire a King and his number retired there too,” Elliotte Friedman said on his 32 Thoughts podcast. “But [Rob] Blake said he’s happy with him as the third-liner on Byfield’s wing to help him out, and we’ll see. His contract is up this summer, right? So I think they just want to have a conversation on where he thinks Brown’s head is. I don’t think they’re rushing to trade him or anything like that.”
Brown and Blake did meet over the All-Star break.
“Brown has been pretty vocal about not wanting to go anywhere. I think the [New York] Islanders last year poked around at him. I’ve got to think everyone [in Los Angeles] is looking that if they can, Dustin Brown retires as an LA King.”
Dustin Brown hoping to stick around in LA past this season

Yea hes finishing the year here for sure but it doesnt say anything about playing beyond this season.

 

[deaderhead28]

Yea hes finishing the year here for sure but it doesnt say anything about playing beyond this season.

Sounds to me they want him to stay but at what term and money? Is Brown willing to play on the third line reduce role?Something to ponder,Brown wants to play and that's not a opinion. So if i am a betting man,if Brown is traded,it's cause they couldn't agree on a new contract.

 

[Schmooley]

Sounds to me they want him to stay but at what term and money? Is Brown willing to play on the third line reduce role?

I dont see that from the article but wouldnt be suprised. If Brown is on the third line next year and they trade Turcotte, Vilardi, Kupari, JAD for Chariot types it would be a sad state of affairs.

 

[YP44]

1 yr $1M for Brown than sure. Not sure how much higher I would go, and I know a lot on here would be mad at that as a lot just want the roster spot.

 

[Islcey]

I'm thinking 1 year, 2.5 million for brown as a bottom 6 forward. The experience he brings to the locker room is not valueless.

 

[Yog S'loth]

A good analog for Brown is Dave Taylor. Kings lifer, heart-and-soul guy, physical threat, former captain, playing into his mid-30s and trying to keep giving his best despite a body ground down by nearly two decades of NHL abuse.

Brown is currently in his 36-year-old season, which equates to Taylor's 92-93 campaign. If anybody here remembers back then, people were saying the same things then about Taylor we're saying about Brown now. Ground down, slowed down, just trying to chip in from the bottom-six. Taylor struggled badly that season, but found a little life in the playoffs as the Kings made their cup run. He finished 10th amongst forwards in playoff scoring as he settled into a 4th line role. We didn't lose that cup because of Dave Taylor.

Afterwards, he was brought back for one final season, where the gas really did finally run out. He struggled quite a lot in his 37-year-old season, and it was pretty much a mercy when Warren Rychel accidentally bopped his head in during practice and ended his career.

Brown's actually doing better than Taylor was at that time. I think you'll see him brought back for at least one more.

 

[cyclones22]

38 years old in November. He will be older, slower and worse. This is a hard no unless he's discovered Barry Bonds hidden Balco stash.

 

[YP44]

I'm thinking 1 year, 2.5 million for brown as a bottom 6 forward. The experience he brings to the locker room is not valueless.

I would probably be ok with this, but also cherish as much cap space as possible. if the prospects take a step forward next year maybe the year to add

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Brown should look up to Aki Berg and follow his footsteps if he wants to still be around the team. FYI, Aki Berg is now an equipment manager in Finland.

Brown's usefulness as a player is dwindling, and he hasn't exactly reinvented his playing style the way Dave Taylor did in the late stages of his career, as a defensive minded winger who was an excellent penalty killer.

 

[Fishhead]

My biggest worry with Brown coming back isn't so much his play, he's shown he can be serviceable and productive with reduced time. It's the cap hit. As long as there is space to make a deadline add if the team looks good next year, I'm good with it.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Wherever Brown has played this year he has really dragged that line down. And his time on the PP really took a nosedive. Before when he was screening the goalie and knocking home those greasy goals last year he was a machine. This year, not so much to say the least.

I'd rather see Vilardi on Byfield's wing than Brown next year. And who knows if AA will be brought back.

I think this team would look totally different if we can get that 3rd line going with Byfield centering.

Regarding re-signing Brown next season I think it may be a different scenario if we didn't have a gluttony of forwards already knocking on the door ready to take his job.

 

[JTeller97]

I dont see that from the article but wouldnt be suprised. If Brown is on the third line next year and they trade Turcotte, Vilardi, Kupari, JAD for Chariot types it would be a sad state of affairs.

I like JAD but think the writing's basically on the wall for him especially if we resign Lizotte. It would honestly be a disservice to him and his career to hold on to him much longer. He should be a prime candidate to be moved.

 

[bmr]

I' m still pissed they waived Clague over Maatta

I was pissed initially, but that's before Maatta started to play better. In 32 games, he has 1 goal, 2 assists and is a +7. That ain't bad for a last pairing guy.

What's Clague doing? 1 goal, no assists and -5 in 12 games for Montreal. The more I think about it, the more I realize we didn't have space for him on the team and he had no trade value. Such is life.

 

[Statto]

Yea hes finishing the year here for sure but it doesnt say anything about playing beyond this season.

Yep. It’s completely non committal in either direction. If they wanted him back they’d say something like “we’d love him back, it’s up to Dustin…”. This sounds like he’s retiring but not ready to announce it, or they’d like him to retire but hope he gets to that decision without them needing to give him a push. Maybe.

It certainly doesn’t imply that he’s coming back.

I’m not massively against Brown coming back in a limited role but I’d need as little convincing it’s a good idea given the log jam up front. Yes his experience has value but there is experience elsewhere on the roster. Danault, Arvidsson and even Edler help fill that need and who is to say Brown can’t immediately slot into the back room staff if his off ice impact is so good. I love Brown,
I do, but the end of the contract feels like a natural break. If they trade a bit of wing depth for a blue line upgrade then maybe, but I think this probably should be it.

 

[DAkings20]

Man all this Brownie talk has me upset. Not because of his play, but because we are both in our 30’s.

Getting old as f***

 

[King'sPawn]

Man all this Brownie talk has me upset. Not because of his play, but because we are both in our 30’s.

Getting old as f***

30 is not old. Quiet, you youngin'!

 

[Piston]

Unfortunately, there is no room for sentimentality in professional sports. It's about production and fielding/icing the best team. There's no shame in telling DB that his career has run its course. He's made $66mm in his career, carried the Cup twice as captain and is a border line HOFer who will receive the ultimate honor of seeing #23 in the rafters forever. Send him out with a band like with Luc at the end of '06, but it is time to move on.

 

[BigKing]

Unfortunately, there is no room for sentimentality in professional sports. It's about production and fielding/icing the best team. There's no shame in telling DB that his career has run its course. He's made $66mm in his career, carried the Cup twice as captain and is a border line HOFer who will receive the ultimate honor of seeing #23 in the rafters forever. Send him out with a band like with Luc at the end of '06, but it is time to move on.

It would have to be cheap and he'd have to be cool with 4th line minutes and a dedication to being, primarily, a heat seeking missile again. That's the skill set he could bring that the team mostly lacks but I can't see him doing that unless he felt the Kings were a legit contender next season.

 

[kingsfan28]

Too much. if I am dealing a first and Turcotte I want a top pair LHD.

Yep, if you're moving essentially moving 2 firsts, you better get more than a Hertyl [rental] or Miller.

 

[kingsfan28]

I' m still pissed they waived Clague over Maatta

Me too. The Kings could really use that one goal and -5 right now.
Maatta, believe it or not, hasn't been as bad as he was the first 25 games. He's done the job, and thats all that matters.

 

[Herby]

Brown should look up to Aki Berg and follow his footsteps if he wants to still be around the team. FYI, Aki Berg is now an equipment manager in Finland.

Brown's usefulness as a player is dwindling, and he hasn't exactly reinvented his playing style the way Dave Taylor did in the late stages of his career, as a defensive minded winger who was an excellent penalty killer.

The LA Kings, the organization that used 1st round picks on an equipment manager and a construction worker.

Unfortunately, there is no room for sentimentality in professional sports. It's about production and fielding/icing the best team. There's no shame in telling DB that his career has run its course. He's made $66mm in his career, carried the Cup twice as captain and is a border line HOFer who will receive the ultimate honor of seeing #23 in the rafters forever. Send him out with a band like with Luc at the end of '06, but it is time to move on.

If he had one season left it's a different animal, but with his contract expiring it's much easier to have that discussion with Brown if he says he wants to come back next season.

Brown isn't at the Mike Richards final season level, but if he is brought back next season it could be that bad, and no one wants to see a franchise legend embarrass himself out there. I think Brown has enough juice left to be a bottom-six guy for one more playoff run, but that is it.

I really hope Dustin gets it and doesn't try and play one more season in a different market, it would be special to have him be a King lifer.