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Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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Raccoon Jesus said:
2nd boldfaced ties in: you and I have very different definitions of 'opportunity.' I'd like to see my offensive 2nd overall draft pick center at least SNIFF the powerplay, or if he's not going to replace the top Cs, get on a line where he can get high ice time and puck touches and not just have to go out for a checking shift every 5th shift at best. How long did it take Iafallo to flunk off the top line to get replaced by kaliyev--and then how quickly did they bonk Kaliyev back down? Why not take that as an opportunity?
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Look at Minnesota, how they handle Matt Boldy...he has 3 PP goals and 10 PP points - in only 43 games. 10 PP points would be 5th on the Kings. (if he had 77 games, would project to 18 pts and 3rd on the Kings and over 300% more than Iafallo's 5 PP pts) If Boldy even got to make the Kings, he would be line 4 and probably have 0 PP minutes. So you can't say "playoff teams cannot give rookies prime PP minutes" Or, he's not one of the best 5 or 6 forwards. I'm sure Minny has 5 or 6 more seasoned, excellent forwards than Boldy. On the Wild, look for him to be scoring 25 goals and 50 pts next year. On the Kings this year, he would probably have 9 pts and on the verge of being scratched a few games or sent back to the AHL...and certainly not on a path to a possible 50 pt player by next year.

The same could be said for Caufield's 13 pp pts, 1/3 of his 39 pts. Players like Dawson Mercer get PP time and are producing. Beniers has 2 PP goals in 5 games on the Kraken.

Do you think Mercer's Boldy's, Caufield's confidence and progression in making an impact, producing, help their development? Of course. The more success you have, the greater chance to succeed overall comes.

After seeing QB take over, his last shift - circling the zone about 3 times - and was not stopped - 5 on 5, no less....shows his potential in what he's capable of. Sure, may have only resulted in 1 shot or 1 scoring chance, but if he can do that 5 on 5, he can certainly do that 5 on 4 AND, with the most talented players on the ice with him. He has good vision and offensive instincts. He did have that spin around shot from about 10 feet out and was close to scoring. He's shown he can shoot pucks past NHL goalies. Why not give him some PP time? It's not like he's going to flat out fail. No way. Iafallo has mostly failed there 77 games. The PP needs movement as well.
 
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Peter James Bond III said:
Look at Minnesota, how they handle Matt Boldy...he has 3 PP goals and 10 PP points - in only 43 games. 10 PP points would be 5th on the Kings. (if he had 77 games, would project to 18 pts and 3rd on the Kings and over 300% more than Iafallo's 5 PP pts) If Boldy even got to make the Kings, he would be line 4 and probably have 0 PP minutes. So you can't say "playoff teams cannot give rookies prime PP minutes" Or, he's not one of the best 5 or 6 forwards. I'm sure Minny has 5 or 6 more seasoned, excellent forwards than Boldy. On the Wild, look for him to be scoring 25 goals and 50 pts next year. On the Kings this year, he would probably have 9 pts and on the verge of being scratched a few games or sent back to the AHL...and certainly not on a path to a possible 50 pt player by next year.

The same could be said for Caufield's 13 pp pts, 1/3 of his 39 pts. Players like Dawson Mercer get PP time and are producing. Beniers has 2 PP goals in 5 games on the Kraken.

Do you think Mercer's Boldy's, Caufield's confidence and progression in making an impact, producing, help their development? Of course. The more success you have, the greater chance to succeed overall comes.

After seeing QB take over, his last shift - circling the zone about 3 times - and was not stopped - 5 on 5, no less....shows his potential in what he's capable of. Sure, may have only resulted in 1 shot or 1 scoring chance, but if he can do that 5 on 5, he can certainly do that 5 on 4 AND, with the most talented players on the ice with him. He has good vision and offensive instincts. He did have that spin around shot from about 10 feet out and was close to scoring. He's shown he can shoot pucks past NHL goalies. Why not give him some PP time? It's not like he's going to flat out fail. No way. Iafallo has mostly failed there 77 games. The PP needs movement as well.
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So you honestly believe that if Turcotte was on Minnesota he'd be producing Boldy type numbers? Right...
 
tomd said:
So you honestly believe that if Turcotte was on Minnesota he'd be producing Boldy type numbers? Right...
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I never mentioned Turcotte. But I think he would have been playing on the Wild by now and producing and having success. Do you think Boldy would have a meaningful role on the Kings, with PP minutes and 37 pts in 43 games? Or, would he be in the AHL or playing line 4 and not making any kind of impact?
 
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Peter James Bond III said:
I never mentioned Turcotte. But I think he would have been playing on the Wild by now and producing and having success. Do you think Boldy would have a meaningful role on the Kings, with PP minutes and 37 pts in 43 games? Or, would he be in the AHL or playing line 4 and not making any kind of impact?
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I think Boldy would be starring on any team in the NHL. As would Stutzle, Zegras, Raymond, or Seider. The Kings aren't holding their youth back...the youth just isn't good enough yet.
 
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Peter James Bond III said:
I never mentioned Turcotte. But I think he would have been playing on the Wild by now and producing and having success. Do you think Boldy would have a meaningful role on the Kings, with PP minutes and 37 pts in 43 games? Or, would he be in the AHL or playing line 4 and not making any kind of impact?
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I've never seen a team try so hard to keep talent out of the lineup and yet have positive results. Hockey is weird...
 
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Peter James Bond III said:
I never mentioned Turcotte. But I think he would have been playing on the Wild by now and producing and having success. Do you think Boldy would have a meaningful role on the Kings, with PP minutes and 37 pts in 43 games? Or, would he be in the AHL or playing line 4 and not making any kind of impact?
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That's the typical BS counter-argument you get here. Well the reason why those kids are producing on those other teams is because their prospects are good and ours all suck. Yeah that's why. Every single freaking forward that the Kings draft sucks. Not long ago Arty was scoring 50 goals in juniors. Two seasons ago he led the Reign in goals and points as a teenager. His reward? A spot on the roster due to injury that he kept because he played a competent 4th line grinding role. What other franchise would do that to their top sniper prospect? Probably none because most teams actually develop offensive forwards in less than five seasons.
 
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tomd said:
So you honestly believe that if Turcotte was on Minnesota he'd be producing Boldy type numbers? Right...
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That's not what was said at all but pretty on-brand for you to deliberately misinterpret.

If Turcotte were in Minnesota, they were desperate for Cs, so if healthy, he'd at least have been in the NHL all year this year if not last year too, not in Iowa not getting PP time.
 
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Avs are not looking like their usual dominate lately. Wonder if this is something valid or simply late season disinterest waiting to turn it up at SC playoff time?
Oilers are really humming the past few weeks. They might have found something. I'm sure they will lose it.
Kraken have been on the rise the past couple weeks with some solid wins against good teams.. That game we have upcoming with them is going to be tough.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
That's not what was said at all but pretty on-brand for you to deliberately misinterpret.

If Turcotte were in Minnesota, they were desperate for Cs, so if healthy, he'd at least have been in the NHL all year this year if not last year too, not in Iowa not getting PP time.
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Then explain why Marco Rossi isn't there
 
AbsentMojo said:
Look at my profile pic - its from this:

Edit: here's another good one:
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So what you’ve shown me here is Quick punching helpless guys in scrums, and refusing to fight Eddie Lack who directly challenged him.

I wasn’t asking for help, but thanks for proving my point that Quick won’t fight and isn’t tough without his teammates around. I appreciate it.
 
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Maynard said:
So what you’ve shown me here is Quick punching helpless guys in scrums, and refusing to fight Eddie Lack who directly challenged him.

I wasn’t asking for help, but thanks for proving my point that Quick won’t fight and isn’t tough without his teammates around. I appreciate it.
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Sure no prob
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
Then explain why Marco Rossi isn't there
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I guess you (deliberately) missed the part where he had a cardiac condition that threatened his career, followed by covid, followed by his delayed comeback and debut before another injury, and now they have him in the 1C and full PP time role shredding the AHL since its' too late in the season so in his absence the top six centers are handled and he's not a bottom sixer--unlike the Kings who would probably try him out at 4C then get mad he wasn't checking well enough before sending him down to the middle six in the AHL and giving him no playing time.

That's not at all the gotcha you think it is, especially since as always you either deliberately missed the point or dishonestly digressed to a point you thought was really 'it'. Great job finding an injury exception to the rule though. Enjoy talking to an empty room.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I guess you (deliberately) missed the part where he had a cardiac condition that threatened his career, followed by covid, followed by his delayed comeback and debut before another injury, and now they have him in the 1C and full PP time role shredding the AHL since its' too late in the season so in his absence the top six centers are handled and he's not a bottom sixer--unlike the Kings who would probably try him out at 4C then get mad he wasn't checking well enough before sending him down to the middle six in the AHL and giving him no playing time.

That's not at all the gotcha you think it is, especially since as always you either deliberately missed the point or dishonestly digressed to a point you thought was really 'it'. Great job finding an injury exception to the rule though. Enjoy talking to an empty room.
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He's played the entire year in the AHL.....so tell me again if Minnesota is developing their prospects, and are HURTING for C's.....why would they have Rossi in the AHL?

Yes, he got covid, yes he had setback.....but that was last year.....this year, he's been fully healthy, maybe a minor injury etc, he's played 61 AHL games...and 2 NHL games....if they are HURTING for C's......like you claimed, Turcotte would be playing etc....ok...then explain why not Rossi? Is Turcotte better than Rossi?
 
I haven’t seen anything from Turcotte that makes him stand out as NHL talent. Over the last two seasons, he has 12 goals and 39 points in 58 AHL games, and it’s been about four years since he had an injury free season.

He might have made the NHL roster on an awful team that ices a bunch of scrubs, like the Coyotes or Sharks, but I can’t see what he would add to a playoff team. He was rather invisible in the limited amount of time we saw him with the Kings. Just like Fagemo and Anderson-Dolan this season.

At least they’re no worse than Lias Andersson.
 
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