Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Inner Turbulence]

The only goalie that has played more games than Quick so far this year is Carter Hart. He has ONE more game than Quick. He’s also 12 years younger. Twelve.

Of the other 4 goalies that have played the same number of games as Quick, he is AT LEAST 7 years older than all of them.

Up. Yours. Blake.

That is probably not by choice
There just hasn't been an alternative

Though, at this point I'd be tempted to say - run Copley a bit. Can't get any worse with Quick or Petersen.

 

[Bandit]

That is probably not by choice
There just hasn't been an alternative

Though, at this point I'd be tempted to say - run Copley a bit. Can't get any worse with Quick or Petersen.

No shit? There hasn’t been a choice because Blake is a dumbf***. Hence the last line of my last post.

 

[Master Yoda]

I think the point there is the pass happened above the circles. If Roy or any D-man was that aggressive they would be just as likely to get burned and have a 2-0 from that point inwards

The point Foxy was trying to make was that you don't want Laine, who is one of the top snipers in the league, to get the shot in that situation.
So the defender should be overplaying the pass to force the puck carrier to take the shot.
That's actually almost always the right play, to prevent the pass and let the goalie take the shooter.
And that play started from the offensive blueline, so Roy had plenty of time to read the play.

 

[King'sPawn]

And if all the GMs jumped off a bridge, Blake should do it too right?

Kudelski was referring to the assertion that Blake "set the market." Following your example, if Blake followed a bunch of GMs jumping off the cliff, and someone said "Blake jumped first."

 

[Master Yoda]

He stopped defending after the first pass. If he can't do more than that, he needs to go.

He's not capable of doing more than that in his own end, that is obvious by now.
I've ragged on Durzi since last season but I thought he did well to at least get a stick on the first pass to disrupt the rush.
That should have been enough to get the backcheckers into the play to at least prevent another pass.
All I saw was 4 forwards coasting back to the d-zone.

 

[kilowatt]

Petersen is 70th out of 73 goalies in the league this year in save percentage. Quick is 65th. Copley is 6th, although two games is a very small sample size. No Kings goalie this season has put together a stretch of three consecutive games allowing 2 or fewer goals.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Quick does not have a contract for next season.

You’re right. My mistake. Got him confused with Kopitar’s contract.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

I really like Kupari, but it’s time for QB to come up and move Kempe back to wing.

 

[Master Yoda]

I really like Kupari, but it’s time for QB to come up and move Kempe back to wing.

What I don't understand is, last year the managment was talking about Byfield getting into bad habits in the AHL and insinuating that he's better off staying in the NHL. Not that I agreed with the decision but at least they had a plan for him.

Now he's down and obviously back in game shape. And still no sign of coming back to the big club.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Roy is an above average defender but this are his flaws and it really stems from the fact that he plays a smothering defense rather than a preemptive one.
One of the guys post last season that Roy is one of the worse Dmen at preventing zone entry to add to your post and of course now add Durzi.
There seems to have been a change of some kind in how they PK because not only have they gotten worse, they also barely attach the pass as a group and are lame ducks out there.. we need a new coach or staff at Thai point.

Roy needs to go...is way overrated.
He also kills more offense, than any player I've seen in 40 years.
As soon as he's in the zone and has the puck, or receives the puck,
95% of the time in that first second, he shoots a 74 mph slap shot from 50-55 feet out, in which there
is no traffic in front ot the net and never once does he even see if there is another option.
Several times, I see a pass optiion, but Roy is like a robot, eyes fixed on goal and winds up and
shoots a 74 mph dud that the goalie stops every time.
The goalie stops them 100% of the time and the play is dead, or goalie gives to his defense.

Yet, he took over 130 of those shots last year. 100% of the time, 130 zone possesions ended.
If he even threw the puck in the corner, at least a good amount of the time, a King would have gotten the puck and play stlll alive...Not once, does he stop....and take a second or 2 to make a play...OR, even go in closer to
make something happen.Does any other player kill possesion 130 times a year? Out of 130? No.

There often is. He's the only defenseman on the NHL that takes that shot, over 95% of the time.
Drew would never once even take 1 shot like that. I'm honestly shocked that after him doiung this 5 times, the staff told him to never do that again. THIS FACT ALONE, should have Todd called in the office, with Roy, since Todd somehow does not see this? And allows it.

This team needs Clarke and Byfield to get up to speed and BOTH join the team in January.
Start moving several of these vets that are not moving the team forward. Period.

 

[FSL KINGS]

The point Foxy was trying to make was that you don't want Laine, who is one of the top snipers in the league, to get the shot in that situation.
So the defender should be overplaying the pass to force the puck carrier to take the shot.
That's actually almost always the right play, to prevent the pass and let the goalie take the shooter.
And that play started from the offensive blueline, so Roy had plenty of time to read the play.

Was that the play that Laine adjusted the angle of the pass by drifting wider & slowing down, because there was no back check coming & they had all the time in the world?

I'm hard on Doughty, because he is capable of playing better than he is right now. He should have to do 50 pushups after the game every time he hides behind the net killing the breakout or misses the net with a shot, or hits the 1st defenders shin pads. Dudes gunna be ripped.

Over the Righties playing on the left side. Some players can do it. Roy, Durzi or Walker don't appear to be those guys. Don't want Clarke or Spence getting stuck on the Left. So it's easy, unless Doughty can play the left move one of Roy or Doughty. Keep Spence, Clarke & maybe Durzi as a fill in. Get a LD. Playing Durzi on his off side on the second pair didn't work. Who could have guessed?

Edit: If keeping Doughty, someone has to have the PP ice time talk with him.

 

[mysterman2]

Was that the play that Laine adjusted the angle of the pass by drifting wider & slowing down, because there was no back check coming & they had all the time in the world?

I'm hard on Doughty, because he is capable of playing better than he is right now. He should have to do 50 pushups after the game every time he hides behind the net killing the breakout or misses the net with a shot, or hits the 1st defenders shin pads. Dudes gunna be ripped.

Over the Righties playing on the left side. Some players can do it. Roy, Durzi or Walker don't appear to be those guys. Don't want Clarke or Spence getting stuck on the Left. So it's easy, unless Doughty can play the left move one of Roy or Doughty. Keep Spence, Clarke & maybe Durzi as a fill in. Get a LD. Playing Durzi on his off side on the second pair didn't work. Who could have guessed?

Edit: If keeping Doughty, someone has to have the PP ice time talk with him.

Walker and Durzi are liabilities on their natural sides...the idea that you would take a horrible dman, move him to the opposite side and think it would work out was folly from the start. But as mentioned...Tmac gunna Tmac.

 

[kingsfan28]

The Kings are the highest scoring team in the Western Conference... and the bottom 3 in goals against. Average defense and they're probably sitting in a solid second place even with all the games played. Seattle has played 4 fewer and will most likely pick up 5 of those points.

 

[Mcsorley47]

I’m watching The Ducks-Sen’s game and the Duck players always back each other up on the ice. I just watched Jones skate over and grab Kastelic for a hit along the boards.

This team, along with a shit ton of other stuff, needs this.

2023 draft. A new year, and a new us, right.

 

[mysterman2]

The Kings are the highest scoring team in the Western Conference... and the bottom 3 in goals against. Average defense and they're probably sitting in a solid second place even with all the games played. Seattle has played 4 fewer and will most likely pick up 5 of those points.

Great call....at beginning of the year many projected the top D lineup with

Anderson Doughty
Bjornfot Spence
Edler Durzi/Roy

Blake should have let Walker go to waivers. The pairings above far better than the swiss cheese weve seen so far this season. Make a trade for any competent LHD and now a crappy defense raises to average, but that alone is a net gain and will increase Ws.

 

[bouncesonly]

I get what you're saying but there isn't a coach alive that is going to say stand there and coast back into your goaltender and not do anything. You have to make a call. The correct call that gets drilled into everyone since peewee is to get in between there, disrupt the pass, look for a rebound, and box out a man from the crease. A scoring chance shot is likely to be taken, but it is the goaltender's job to take the shooter with the puck, and it is always the defenseman's job to take the passing lane. Roy literally ended up doing absolutely nothing on the play. Quick actually played it perfectly, he was high out of his crease and made a nice side-to-side sprawl. Laine's shot was absolutely perfect over Quick's shoulder high. The only player out of the four involved that could have done anything different was Roy, outside of the rest on the ice not allowing the odd man rush in the first place.

I am fine is giving it to Quick, he is a vet and a fierce competitor, he can take it, but there's literally nothing else for him to do here. Same with the next one as the defense allows two cross-ice passes for another one-timer. He deserves some shit for goals 1, 4, and 6 although all were difficult high-scoring chances he should have made at least one of those, he had absolutely no chance on 2 and 3, while literally all of them could have been prevented with a sliver of defensive awareness, but that goes without saying.

I understand Roy's job is to block that cross ice pass, but if you were Roy, you would expect the cross ice pass to happen pretty much right after the blue line? He probably wasn't expecting the pass to happen so soon, as most passes would have happened a little later, which he was in position for.

 

[kings11]

Roy needs to go...is way overrated.
He also kills more offense, than any player I've seen in 40 years.
As soon as he's in the zone and has the puck, or receives the puck,
95% of the time in that first second, he shoots a 74 mph slap shot from 50-55 feet out, in which there
is no traffic in front ot the net and never once does he even see if there is another option.
Several times, I see a pass optiion, but Roy is like a robot, eyes fixed on goal and winds up and
shoots a 74 mph dud that the goalie stops every time.
The goalie stops them 100% of the time and the play is dead, or goalie gives to his defense.

Yet, he took over 130 of those shots last year. 100% of the time, 130 zone possesions ended.
If he even threw the puck in the corner, at least a good amount of the time, a King would have gotten the puck and play stlll alive...Not once, does he stop....and take a second or 2 to make a play...OR, even go in closer to
make something happen.Does any other player kill possesion 130 times a year? Out of 130? No.

There often is. He's the only defenseman on the NHL that takes that shot, over 95% of the time.
Drew would never once even take 1 shot like that. I'm honestly shocked that after him doiung this 5 times, the staff told him to never do that again. THIS FACT ALONE, should have Todd called in the office, with Roy, since Todd somehow does not see this? And allows it.

This team needs Clarke and Byfield to get up to speed and BOTH join the team in January.
Start moving several of these vets that are not moving the team forward. Period.

He’s not overrated one bit and paired with a better partner has yielded much, much better results. This whole Roy reply on my end was a result of someone saying we’d be lucky to get a 3rd for him.. the truth is that Roy is damn near Weegar or Brodin and would net us a 1st +.. and yes, that is the going market price for a top 4 defensive Dman

 

[Cianide]

I really like Kupari, but it’s time for QB to come up and move Kempe back to wing.

No it's not.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

looks like Arvidsson‘s absence is for a good reason.

he announced his second child is coming in December.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I’m watching The Ducks-Sen’s game and the Duck players always back each other up on the ice. I just watched Jones skate over and grab Kastelic for a hit along the boards.

This team, along with a shit ton of other stuff, needs this.

2023 draft. A new year, and a new us, right.

You realize thats what started the downpour in Toronto....(not like it would have mattered) but That's EXACTLY what Lizotte did.....

So please tell me how we need this, if we already have this....

 

[ru4reals]

I really like Kupari, but it’s time for QB to come up and move Kempe back to wing.

Agree I think it's time to bring him up permanantly and reunite him with Vilardi and Iafallo.

Fiala-Kopi-Kaliyev
Moore-Danault-Arvidsson(when Healthy)
Vilardi-Byfield-Iafallo
Grundstrom-Lizotte-Anderson-Dolan/Lemieux

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

I feel like the plan was written on a bar napkin and someone just spilled a long island iced tea all over the table.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Agree I think it's time to bring him up permanantly and reunite him with Vilardi and Iafallo.

Fiala-Kopi-Kaliyev
Moore-Danault-Arvidsson(when Healthy)
Vilardi-Byfield-Iafallo
Grundstrom-Lizotte-Anderson-Dolan/Lemieux

I'm fine with keeping Byfield away from this team right now. Don't see how being exposed to whatever the King's are doing helps development.

 

[kingsfan28]

I’m watching The Ducks-Sen’s game and the Duck players always back each other up on the ice. I just watched Jones skate over and grab Kastelic for a hit along the boards.

This team, along with a shit ton of other stuff, needs this.

2023 draft. A new year, and a new us, right.

You do realize this is the ducks MO going all the way back to when Brain Burke ran the team, right? Look at all the cheap shit they do when losing, then hide behind someone. The kings have way bigger problems than faux toughness.

 

[funky]

I'm fine with keeping Byfield away from this team right now. Don't see how being exposed to whatever the King's are doing helps development.

until he gets injured and people will be pissed they kept him in the AHL. lose/lose situation sometimes.

I am all for bringing him up. He is confident and needs to show that at the NHL level. Plus ice the best team possible.