Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[King'sPawn]

I do think that's what Detroit did. My point is if Blake did have the balls to take a player completely off the grid that he 100% believed in there is no reason to believe that Seider would have been that player. Maybe Blake did have the balls to take a player completely off the grid he 100% believed in there just wasn't an off the grid player he 100% believed in. The Detroit Seider pick came out of nowhere.

For what it's worth, I have reasons to believe a few other players they liked early in the first, aside from Turcotte and Byram, were:
Zegras
Boldy

I also think they liked Harley and Seider late in the first. Not sure if they ranked them higher than Bjornfot.

Of course nothing that will ever be confirmed.

I can't remember my own list pick by pick, but I actually was pretty meh on York, Broberg, and Soderstrom relative to their ranking. I actually liked Seider 2nd after Byram and Bjornfot 5th (after Byram, Seider, Heinola, and Harley). I know that doesn't contribute much. I guess I just want to reinforce that I don't think Blake would have grabbed Seider, even though I would have been happy with the pick.

 

[Cianide]

I agree he uses space well but he’s been very good at finding those soft spots playing wing.

Not really. It's a round peg in a square hole.

 

[kings11]

Anyone have any insight on one Jonathan Davis??
Mentioned today that the Kings will move one of Kempe or Vilardi?? Has anyone heard anything like this before today?

 

[kingsfan28]

I do think that's what Detroit did. My point is if Blake did have the balls to take a player completely off the grid that he 100% believed in there is no reason to believe that Seider would have been that player. Maybe Blake did have the balls to take a player completely off the grid he 100% believed in there just wasn't an off the grid player he 100% believed in. The Detroit Seider pick came out of nowhere.

I.e. its akin to saying "I wish Lombardi had the balls to take McDonagh/Shattenkirk/Subban in 2007".....he did have the balls...he just thought Hickey was the ballsy pick.

As I said earlier, if it's a ballzy, off the grid move they'd have gone with Knight. They probably had him on their list somewhere, but also, as bad a year as they had, it wasn't the right time to take a risk. Turcotte was the right pick at 5, just sucks a lot a bad things happened to him so far. Seider was a total swing at the fences, and they got lucky although he's struggling this year.

 

[cyclones22]

I don't believe anything like that. Kings trades are rarely leaked ahead of time. That's one thing this organization does well.

 

[kingsfan28]

In that McKenna interview he was really puzzled how they gave Cal the contract.. this is a guy that knows what goalies should be paid.. i think most everyone here thought it was crazy.. but a few said its the going rate...Its a very bad misstep - esp if it prevented getting the future guy like Knight or Wallstedt. Turcotte could develop.. he's basically lost a full year to injuries of some sort.

I think someone reported that there was a possible offer sheet for him, but i'm not sure. I also think Blake saw him as the fulltime starter 2 seasons ago, and paid him accordingly.

 

[kilowatt]

Anyone have any insight on one Jonathan Davis??
Mentioned today that the Kings will move one of Kempe or Vilardi?? Has anyone heard anything like this before today?

The lead singer of Korn?

 

[kings11]

The lead singer of Korn?

Lmfao, that’s what I thought but he’s some Kings writer and podcaster

Edit: westcoasthky twitter

 

[Statto]

Not really. It's a round peg in a square hole.

It’s not though, he played plenty of RW in junior and had his most productive spell on the wing.

 

[Fishhead]

Anyone have any insight on one Jonathan Davis??
Mentioned today that the Kings will move one of Kempe or Vilardi?? Has anyone heard anything like this before today?

They certainly won't move Vilardi because he's still restricted. Kempe, maybe. He will still probably hit 50 points this year, and at 5.5 that's a decent price for that production. It would have to be a really good deal.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I’ve said it elsewhere but I feel strongly about cleaning house. This franchise is still half living under the specter of 2012 and 2014 and Blake and Luc are eternal losers in LA.

Get rid of Blake and Todd. Luc Robitaille should never make a hockey decision for this franchise for the rest of his life.

Trade Kopitar at next year’s deadline and retain. Explore the Doughty market. The franchise simply can’t move forward with these two names still on the marquee. That’s more clear now than ever. In addition, trade all of these awkward bridge players, Kempe, Iafallo, Walker, and Roy.

Identify a small core from these Blake years (Byfield, Clarke, Kaliyev, and Vilardi) and commit to a real rebuild with a real GM who has real vision and identity.

The team is rudderless. It’s very unlikely they make the playoffs this year, and what about next year? The goaltending situation is still an unmitigated disaster. Maybe Byfield starts to break out, but is Byfield alone enough to move the needle? Will Byfield fix the D or give us a system that isn’t outcoached in the matter of 4-5 shifts? Probably not.

This team has roster issues top to bottom. Blake is not the guy. He never has been.

 

[deaderhead28]

I see some do not watch or remember Blake's plan to develop and fill out the team over a 5 year period. The team is fine cause it's still being developed and patched. Many have this imaginary time frame set to their timeline not the organizations. The team isn't a finished project and is not behind according to Blakes and organization timeline. Relax enjoy the development and prospects.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I see some do not watch or remember Blake's plan to develop and fill out the team over a 5 year period. The team is fine cause it's still being developed and patched. Many have this imaginary time frame set to their timeline not the organizations. The team isn't a finished project and is not behind according to Blakes and organization timeline. Relax enjoy the development and prospects.

What?

Rob Blake says Kings don't need to rebuild | NHL.com

New Los Angeles GM has long to-do list, including hiring coach

www.nhl.com

Five and a half years ago. “We don’t need to rebuild.”

REPORT: Rob Blake Has New Extension to Remain as LA Kings GM

mayorsmanor.com

And here’s its reported Blake and co. decided to rebuild in December 2018 with a 3 year plan.

 

[deaderhead28]

This app is having formating issues when trying to quote errr.

 

[deaderhead28]

Rob Blake tried a soft rebuild on the fly hoping to make another run at it in 2018 and it failed. 2019 they hired Todd to be the head coach and even i was confused what they were trying to do. During the welcoming press conference Todd was using words like it's going to be a marathon and hinting at 3 years. Then Blake started tearing things down doing a full rebuild and drafting. Last year the organization goal was to make the playoffs. He and Luke next goal was to repeat but to get deeper in the playoffs. No one in the organization said this team is a Stanley Cup contender or did they say the goal was to win it this year. Blake has come out many times explaining the plan to get pieces but not going to overpay. Relax

 

[FSL KINGS]

Doughty: Think it's time to ask Doughty if he wants a trade. He seems down. Could be wrist injury recovery. Those have messed with other players. EP40, Mathews. Might be getting older & seeing the turnover on the team. It's just him Kopi & Quick left at this point. Getting Carter vibes from his play right now.

If he wants to stay, move him to the left & pair with Clarke. The first pair needs to transition the puck better.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I’ve said it elsewhere but I feel strongly about cleaning house. This franchise is still half living under the specter of 2012 and 2014 and Blake and Luc are eternal losers in LA.

Get rid of Blake and Todd. Luc Robitaille should never make a hockey decision for this franchise for the rest of his life.

Trade Kopitar at next year’s deadline and retain. Explore the Doughty market. The franchise simply can’t move forward with these two names still on the marquee. That’s more clear now than ever. In addition, trade all of these awkward bridge players, Kempe, Iafallo, Walker, and Roy.

Identify a small core from these Blake years (Byfield, Clarke, Kaliyev, and Vilardi) and commit to a real rebuild with a real GM who has real vision and identity.

The team is rudderless. It’s very unlikely they make the playoffs this year, and what about next year? The goaltending situation is still an unmitigated disaster. Maybe Byfield starts to break out, but is Byfield alone enough to move the needle? Will Byfield fix the D or give us a system that isn’t outcoached in the matter of 4-5 shifts? Probably not.

This team has roster issues top to bottom. Blake is not the guy. He never has been.

Have you seen the other crap the Kings are fighting with for a playoff spot? A Dave Hakstol and Martin Jones led Seattle team is within striking distance for home ice in the 1st rd.

I know, I get it, 1st rd and out, blah, blah, blah. All the good stuff, all the classic hits. To say they're very unlikely to make it though, just come on. I know Nas has 5 games in hand, but the Preds also suck. Are they guaranteed to make up the 6pts as things currently stand? There might be 5 teams from the Pac that make the playoffs this year, that's how bad the West is.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Doughty: Think it's time to ask Doughty if he wants a trade. He seems down. Could be wrist injury recovery. Those have messed with other players. EP40, Mathews. Might be getting older & seeing the turnover on the team. It's just him Kopi & Quick left at this point. Getting Carter vibes from his play right now.

If he wants to stay, move him to the left & pair with Clarke. The first pair needs to transition the puck better.

Asking him anything doesn't change 33 years old, 4 years, $11m hit, $44m in cash. His 1 goal isn't going very far.

And now, after all this time, at his age, etc, etc, never having played the left side ever in the NHL, possibly recovering from an injury, you want to move Doughty to the left side? And we think Durzi is bad there.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Have you seen the other crap the Kings are fighting with for a playoff spot? A Dave Hakstol and Martin Jones led Seattle team is within striking distance for home ice in the 1st rd.

I know, I get it, 1st rd and out, blah, blah, blah. All the good stuff, all the classic hits. To say they're very unlikely to make it though, just come on. I know Nas has 5 games in hand, but the Preds also suck. Are they guaranteed to make up the 6pts as things currently stand? There might be 5 teams from the Pac that make the playoffs this year, that's how bad the West is.

The defense and goaltending is significantly worse than last year.

Currently 27th in GA, last year 17th. Quick is down from a .903/2.84 to .887/3.42.

Vegas and Seattle are better. Edmonton and Calgary are right there with LA and have better, more talented top players. Nashville has a great goaltender.

 

[kings11]

Doughty: Think it's time to ask Doughty if he wants a trade. He seems down. Could be wrist injury recovery. Those have messed with other players. EP40, Mathews. Might be getting older & seeing the turnover on the team. It's just him Kopi & Quick left at this point. Getting Carter vibes from his play right now.

If he wants to stay, move him to the left & pair with Clarke. The first pair needs to transition the puck better.

I want to touch on this..
I don’t think he’s having a good year but he is trying, I think he and others are simply trying too much..
doughty and Durzi are pushing the play to hard and it’s leading to all these TOs. Matt Roy hasn’t been the same since our own Kevin Fiala slobberknocked him.
At this point it’s time to cash in on Durzi and Roy while inserting Spence, Bjornfot and Clarke.
I still think Drew cares very deeply but I also think he’s starting to realize that he’s not a #1 Dman

 

[KingsFan7824]

The defense and goaltending is significantly worse than last year.

Currently 27th in GA, last year 17th. Quick is down from a .903/2.84 to .887/3.42.

Vegas and Seattle are better. Edmonton and Calgary are right there with LA and have better, more talented top players. Nashville has a great goaltender.

I know, every other team has exceptions and reasons for why things happen, the Kings are just terrible. Can believe in Sea, despite being coached by Hakstol. Can't believe in the Kings, because they're coached by McLellan.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I know, every other team has exceptions and reasons for why things happen, the Kings are just terrible. Can believe in Sea, despite being coached by Hakstol. Can't believe in the Kings, because they're coached by McLellan.

I can’t believe in the Kings because they are just so unlucky under the current regime. If only they could just catch a bunch of lucky breaks, then things would be so much better.

 

[funky]

They certainly won't move Vilardi because he's still restricted. Kempe, maybe. He will still probably hit 50 points this year, and at 5.5 that's a decent price for that production. It would have to be a really good deal.

The way I look at it is we are overloaded for once in our life with top 9 forwards. In my opinion this makes sense.

Fiala - absolute stud
Arvidsson- staple on second line, 50 points
Kaliyev - up and comer
Vilardi - up and comer
Moore - great complement to Phillipe
Iafallo - need these bulldogs in bottom 6

That’s 9 guys that can be slotted in proper positions in the top 9 plus we have a guy like Fagemo that needs a chance. Now he may get it once Arvidsson’s contract ends in two years as they are similar.

We also have younger guys that may suprise like Chromiak or even a converted Turcotte (health willing)

Kempe has value and frees up a lot of cap space if packages in a trade for a left shot Defenceman. You put him in a package with Durzi or Bjornfot who is just collecting dust and that is an attractive package.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Asking him anything doesn't change 33 years old, 4 years, $11m hit, $44m in cash. His 1 goal isn't going very far.

And now, after all this time, at his age, etc, etc, never having played the left side ever in the NHL, possibly recovering from an injury, you want to move Doughty to the left side? And we think Durzi is bad there.

There are crazy GM's that trade for guys like Lucic & Risto. OEL to Van comes to mind. 2 of those guys no longer GM's, but it just takes one.

Moving Doughty to the left: Durzi struggles on his off side trying to make passed up ice. Doughty mostly regroups & goes behind the net anyways so moving the puck up ice quickly on his backhand shouldn't be an issue.

Doughty's inability to move the puck quickly should have him paired with a puck mover. Clarke, Spence, Durzi are all Righties. I'd give Doughty a shot on the left side. Having Clarke, Spence & Durzi in the lineup probably helps more than Doughty on offside hurts.

Trading for an offensive top pair left defender is going to be expensive & may be unnecessary with the defenders the King's have coming if Doughty can make the switch.

 

[kilowatt]

We have three guys in the top 50 points scorers among defensemen. Durzi (19th), Doughty (24th), and Roy (40th).

Before we make all these huge changes at the top, let’s make some simple ones at the bottom. Trade or waive Walker and call up Moverare. Move forward with this:

Anderson - Doughty
Bjornfot - Roy
Moverare - Durzi
Edler

Feed Durzi power play time and shelter the rest of his minutes. No penalty kill and certainly don’t put him out there to protect a lead with three minutes left in the game.

If a big trade comes along for Durzi and Kempe, pull the trigger.