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Raccoon Jesus said:
I doubt it given it's a conditioning assignment. He's not 'there' like Spence, Fagemo are especially (but others too including turcotte madden)



It is a bummer but if the PK can simply not be AWFUL and the PP stays top 10 that bodes well.

Last year we were the only playoff team with BOTh special teams in the toilet

Every playoff team had at least one top tier special team, either PP or PK, even if the other was 'just' mediocre. And it often went along with the team's identity (like 2018 Kings' elite PK).

But then--that has been the problem with the team's identity too...
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Last year identity was 1) tenacious forecheck to beat teams 5 on 5, 2) light-checking, 3) shit special teams, 4) below average defense, 5) below average goaltending.. this year its basically the same, but change 4) to league bottom defense, 6) league bottom goaltending, change 3) to 1 shit special team, and 1 upper 3rd special team... improved in 1 area digressed in 2.... but improving the talent in the d-corps they could quickly improve 4) and 3). What should the identity be given the roster and pipeline? dont see any way to have success in the playoffs without adding some size and more diverse D players like Zadarov types. In the end you can lean toward skill, speed and have some above average D/goaltending, with maybe league average physicality and that could be your identity. Edit: what im assuming is this is a zero sum game - if you go for speed, you give up in size (generally speaking), you go for skill you give up some physicality.. so this is the identity based on how you allocate between the categories
 
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I have a kid that funnels me this shit - he said trade this ****** i like Durzi but I cant chalk this up to gen-z, hockey mustve taught him enough not to do things like this
 
So thats it Vilardi going to C!
Jk, severely outvoted.
These posts are archived, for futer ref.
Byfields making progress so he could be back.
But God forbid Kopi or Danault gets hurt and they could give Gabe a look in the middle.
I am saying look at him at 3c to keep expectations and pressure low.
Then if he excels move him up.
Ya I know, Blasphemy!
 
Surf Nutz said:
So thats it Vilardi going to C!
Jk, severely outvoted.
These posts are archived, for futer ref.
Byfields making progress so he could be back.
But God forbid Kopi or Danault gets hurt and they could give Gabe a look in the middle.
I am saying look at him at 3c to keep expectations and pressure low.
Then if he excels move him up.
Ya I know, Blasphemy!
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Bud, they’ve already tried Vilardi at center. It didn’t work.

It’s not that people are ideologically opposed to Vilardi at C. We’ve just seen it happen already, and it’s not a good position for him. It actually makes him a worse forward overall.
 
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SettlementRichie10 said:
Bud, they’ve already tried Vilardi at center. It didn’t work.

It’s not that people are ideologically opposed to Vilardi at C. We’ve just seen it happen already, and it’s not a good position for him. It actually makes him a worse forward overall.
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They did try him there your right with that except that was a 20ish lbs lighter not as healthy Vilardi I think he might do a ton better now that he's stronger
 
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KingTech said:
They did try him there your right with that except that was a 20ish lbs lighter not as healthy Vilardi I think he might do a ton better now that he's stronger
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Perhaps, but that doesn’t supersede continuing to play him at the position in which he’s currently having his big breakout year.
 
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KingTech said:
They did try him there your right with that except that was a 20ish lbs lighter not as healthy Vilardi I think he might do a ton better now that he's stronger
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But he's not that much faster. And I don't want him concentrating on who he needs to pick up in transition either, I want him concentrating on using his top offensive skillset.
 
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All I was/am trying to point out is that when the king had him at center he was a different player and his linemates were not all that talented
 
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AbsentMojo said:
I have a kid that funnels me this shit - he said trade this ****** i like Durzi but I cant chalk this up to gen-z, hockey mustve taught him enough not to do things like this
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brutal.

tiktok is seriously one of the worst things to happen to humanity in a long time and all these zoomers working in sports front offices thinking this is how to market the game are right up there too
 
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tny760 said:
brutal.

tiktok is seriously one of the worst things to happen to humanity in a long time and all these zoomers working in sports front offices thinking this is how to market the game are right up there too
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Agree. I hope hockey values survive this generation.. the things that make it great dont align with whats going on in pop culture.
 
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Surf Nutz said:
So thats it Vilardi going to C!
Jk, severely outvoted.
These posts are archived, for futer ref.
Byfields making progress so he could be back.
But God forbid Kopi or Danault gets hurt and they could give Gabe a look in the middle.
I am saying look at him at 3c to keep expectations and pressure low.
Then if he excels move him up.
Ya I know, Blasphemy!
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I dont get the resistance to the idea either. Only strategic diff playing center is faceoffs and defensive responsibility covering the 3rd fwd..otherwise its f1, f2, f3 in both zones based on when they enter. The main thing is the amount of skating.. centers play lower in the d-zone and have more stops and starts having to cover f3 (assuming the typical system). So its a stamina thing more than anything. Trying him at 3C if it lets us get 2 good wings next to him is def worth a try. Id even try him at 1C w Kempe and Fiala.. and you could share the faceoff responsibility because GV is R and AK is L so they are always on their strong side.
 
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kilowatt said:
You guys sound pretty ridiculous, times change. If Durzi wants to make TikToks and people enjoy them, who cares?

That's somehow worse than this?



Let people like what they like you old losers
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I think by and large social media has taken a downturn as people turn into terrible beings for Internet clout, but I also see merit in having these other venues for people to express themselves. The different things people come up with is pretty cool.
 
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AbsentMojo said:
I dont get the resistance to the idea either. Only strategic diff playing center is faceoffs and defensive responsibility covering the 3rd fwd..otherwise its f1, f2, f3 in both zones based on when they enter. The main thing is the amount of skating.. centers play lower in the d-zone and have more stops and starts having to cover f3 (assuming the typical system). So its a stamina thing more than anything. Trying him at 3C if it lets us get 2 good wings next to him is def worth a try. Id even try him at 1C w Kempe and Fiala.. and you could share the faceoff responsibility because GV is R and AK is L so they are always on their strong side.
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Its a different Gabe this year, and yeah I can see him going up from 3c to 2c to 1c. Injuries will probably make it happen some day. Mojo knows hockey!
 
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Surf Nutz said:
Its a different Gabe this year, and yeah I can see him going up from 3c to 2c to 1c. Injuries will probably make it happen some day. Mojo knows hockey!
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Kings really tried to plan for Kopi's decline - they drafted Vilardi, Turcotte and Byfield all centers - and none of them are close.. so I think they need to get creative for 2 years until someone emerges and worse comes to worse sign a FA in 24/25 when Kopi comes off the books.
 
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AbsentMojo said:
I have a kid that funnels me this shit - he said trade this ****** i like Durzi but I cant chalk this up to gen-z, hockey mustve taught him enough not to do things like this
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I would be so embarassed to have to do this as a hockey player. So cringe... And to be clear, this is coming from a person who think's Durzi has great energy and seems to be a guy you'd really enjoy having in the locker room.

I'm confused at a lot of people's reaction as if he made this tiktok himself and put it out there on his own innitiative. It's clearly something the Kings PR/marketing team asked him to do and he's trying to be a good sport about it. Hey, PR/marketing... can you knock it off?
 
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I don't know why people are saying that Vilardi failed at center in 2020-21 he certainly held his own in his first season as a regular in the NHL, putting up a positive GF Rel% and scoring 10 goals and 23 points in 54 games. I think Vilardi was moved to wing because the team signed Danault and wanted Byfield to be the center of the future. and the same thing is likely going to happen with Turcotte.
 
crassbonanza said:
I don't know why people are saying that Vilardi failed at center in 2020-21 he certainly held his own in his first season as a regular in the NHL, putting up a positive GF Rel% and scoring 10 goals and 23 points in 54 games. I think Vilardi was moved to wing because the team signed Danault and wanted Byfield to be the center of the future. and the same thing is likely going to happen with Turcotte.
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I agree. Yes, Vilardi struggled the first full season he played at center, but I don't think that disqualifies him from being a center in the future.

That said, I'd rather he establish himself as an NHLer first instead of asking him to adjust his game AGAIN while also trying to break out.
 
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kilowatt said:
You guys sound pretty ridiculous, times change. If Durzi wants to make TikToks and people enjoy them, who cares?

That's somehow worse than this?



Let people like what they like you old losers
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Other people aren't allowed to have fun while I sit and complain about life. So I'll make fun of him for it to make me feel better.

I guess that's how people think at least.
 
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