Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Piston]

It's pretty wild how things change quickly. The past few years, we've been desperate for a offensive Dman -- puck moving guy who can score and be a top PP guy. But that's no longer the case. We have plenty of offense. We have plenty of PP / PM guys in DD, Durzi, Spence, etc. What we really need is more simple and should be easier to acquire assets wise: a true LHD side guy who has some size/physicality and can get the puck out of our own zone. We have plenty of assets and valuable RHD who teams should desire. We don't need a JC from AZ. Just a basic, defensive minded LHD with size. I'm fine with limited or no offense from the guy.

For Goalie: idk we might be screwed. This summer we need to find an answer though. Maybe there's a top college goalie type who sees the opening here this spring/summer and signs. Maybe we draft a guy #1 -- but that will take a lot of development time. Maybe we can find a team loaded with goalie prospects. Gonna be tough.

Ollie Maata

 

[kings11]

I don't know how much clearer I can make it across the forum that I'm all about playing the kids, not this.

I'm just saying IF you're pursuing these guys, it's going to be pricey.

Imagine thinking I'M saying this team is a contender, sheesh

I don’t think anyone is questioning your stance as I share similar views. However, now is not the time to go for a big acquisition since we spent big on Fiala already.

As for the contender comment, well, if you give up all those assets for two players that won’t move the needle since they don’t address the biggest flaw this team has, then that’s what you have to think about this roster. I mean, why else give up the ask for two LHD, one of which is on a really good contract while the other requires a new deal.

If people want new players on defense, we have Spence, Clarke and Bjornfot.. who are better than what we currently have playing in their stead. Offensively, we’re likely to get a pretty nice boost if QB keeps up his pace.

The biggest problem other than Goaltending this team has is coaching.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

And this is absolutely not the way to do a rebuild, because make no doubt we are still building. That defense is good but still doesn’t solve our goaltending situation.

You’ve also just traded away all our potential future depth to build a team that is maybe good enough to win 2 rounds.. maybe..
The biggest need to is to open spots for Spence, Clarke and Bjornfot.. Trade who you need to make that happen..

Give Byfield another 10-15 games to keep up his play in the A and then call him up. If his production in Ontario keeps pace then that alone is the equivalent of a TDL acquisition.

This is literally what we argued about before last season, how even with the acquisitions of Arvy and PD we need to continue to build. But we got a taste of the playoffs and you guys all act like this team is a contender?
But even worse would trade the future for what? A low tier playoff team?

You’re tilting at windmills here, Don.

 

[Seattle King]

I'm not opposed to trading for Chychrun because he's injury prone but because it will take the farm to get him which will limit our flexibility everywhere else. Also Gavrikov is a UFA in the summer. Why not just try signing him then? Also for goalie why not simply draft the top ranked prospect Michael Hrabal who's 6 foot 6 in the upcoming draft?

Goaltending takes years to develop and is the most difficult position to project success for an 18 year old player. A goalie drafted in 2023 will not see NHL games until 2028 or later, usually.

 

[kings11]

You’re tilting at windmills here, Don.

Ok

 

[Cianide]

All of those moves have to do with development because its basically blocking players from playing in the NHL and getting minutes/experience.

No it doesn't. Bringing other players in has nothing to do with development. Development starts at the draft and until that player "makes" it in the big leagues. Adding players to the roster and "blocking" prospects has nothing to do with development.

 

[King'sPawn]

No it doesn't. Bringing other players in has nothing to do with development. Development starts at the draft and until that player "makes" it in the big leagues. Adding players to the roster and "blocking" prospects has nothing to do with development.

So a player no longer develops once they play in the NHL? Bjornfot stopped developing when he debuted at the age of 18? What about when he played 70 games last season?

While the NHL isn't a developmental league, you're ignoring that players continue to develop even after they "make it."

 

[Cianide]

So a player no longer develops once they play in the NHL? Bjornfot stopped developing when he debuted at the age of 18? What about when he played 70 games last season?

While the NHL isn't a developmental league, you're ignoring that players continue to develop even after they "make it."

No I'm not. What I'm saying is that if Blake/Tmac decides to keep certain players in the lineup over prospects, that has nothing to do with development. That's roster management.

 

[Trash Panda]

No I'm not. What I'm saying is that if Blake/Tmac decides to keep certain players in the lineup over prospects, that has nothing to do with development. That's roster management.

Piss poor roster management, when you consider the state of things around the franchise.

 

[Cianide]

Piss poor roster management, when you consider the state of things around the franchise.

I'm putting my money on Byfield and Vilardi being the future of this franchise with another premier forward rounding out the 2nd line.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Kupari and Spence sent back to Ontario

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Kupari and Spence sent back to Ontario

I hope this is a joke....Spence was outstanding his first game and almost won it in OT.
He made Edler look / play better, for that Maatta. (ten impunded and not a typo)
Kupari had the best wall play of his career (and there have been many good ones) and
kept the play moving and assisted on Jad's goal. Jad's goal was not an 'automatic' thing
and a very good shot. So, there's 3 kids right there, doing great jobs...and 2 are sent down?

Is this so Walker can play again? Spence is better than than al lof the D core, not named Doughty
and Anderson....and a year from now, may be the best...he's that good. He's only getting better.
(and added strength has helped)

A year from now, the Kings can have 4 RHD PP quarterbacks....DD, Durzi, Clarke, Spence.
And DD will be the 4h best. Crazy.

Oh, and WTAF putting Gabriel on line 4?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

it sounds like a paper transaction

but nothing surprises me anymore

 

[BringTheReign]

For any players who are waiver exempt we won't know if it's a paper transaction or not unless until the next game day. Every GM does this stuff in order to maximize/minimize accrued cap hit. It helps make space come trade deadline.

 

[Fishhead]

I hope this is a joke....Spence was outstanding his first game and almost won it in OT.
He made Edler look / play better, for that Maatta. (ten impunded and not a typo)
Kupari had the best wall play of his career (and there have been many good ones) and
kept the play moving and assisted on Jad's goal. Jad's goal was not an 'automatic' thing
and a very good shot. So, there's 3 kids right there, doing great jobs...and 2 are sent down?

Is this so Walker can play again? Spence is better than than al lof the D core, not named Doughty
and Anderson....and a year from now, may be the best...he's that good. He's only getting better.
(and added strength has helped)

A year from now, the Kings can have 4 RHD PP quarterbacks....DD, Durzi, Clarke, Spence.
And DD will be the 4h best. Crazy.

Oh, and WTAF putting Gabriel on line 4?

That was probably the best game Vilardi has played in a while, that line was outstanding most of the night. Their ice time was too low really, they probably should have gotten a few shifts in place of the 3rd line.

Arty looked poor on that 2nd line, definitely square peg/round hole. He's looked great with Kopitar, probably needs to be moved back.

 

[Trash Panda]

I still cannot fathom how Blake ever thought Walker was impactful enough to necessitate a 4 year deal north of 2.5M.

It’s truly baffling.

 

[Mats26]

I still cannot fathom how Blake ever thought Walker was impactful enough to necessitate a 4 year deal north of 2.5M.

It’s truly baffling.

Not as bad as what he gave to Cal. And Cal didn't get a slap shot to the face and tear up his leg to slow him down.

 

[Cianide]

Not as bad as what he gave to Cal. And Cal didn't get a slap shot to the face and tear up his leg to slow him down.

yeah Blake does write checks like they're going out of business.

 

[Schmooley]

Arty looked poor on that 2nd line, definitely square peg/round hole. He's looked great with Kopitar, probably needs to be moved back.

Arty Lizotte and Arvidsson is not a good mix of players. Plus Arvidsson was dogging it most of the game until he took a shift with Danault and Moore and he decided to try harder.

 

[AbsentMojo]

For any players who are waiver exempt we won't know if it's a paper transaction or not unless until the next game day. Every GM does this stuff in order to maximize/minimize accrued cap hit. It helps make space come trade deadline.

I dont get how that works exactly... wouldnt teams do this for all waiver exempt players constantly? e.g. whenever there's an off day, file paper transaction for all waiver exempts?

 

[BringTheReign]

I dont get how that works exactly... wouldnt teams do this for all waiver exempt players constantly? e.g. whenever there's an off day, file paper transaction for all waiver exempts?

Yes, and they do do it constantly. It is a bit confusing, but I've put a pretty solid explanation from Puckapedia below. I mainly just try to remember that cap space is calculated every new day based on the days remaining in a season. If you're trying to add a player later, you want that daily number as small as possible to accrue the extra space. If you're about to LTIR someone, you want that daily number as close to the cap as possible before doing so in order to "gain" the max amount of relief.

A team’s cap hit is calculated based on each day of the season (186 days). For every day a player is on the roster, the team’s cap hit is their full year cap hit divided by 186. Once a player is on the roster, the calculations assume they will be on the roster for the remainder of year. Example: If a player with a $925K cap hit gets called up 86 days into the season (100 days remaining), on that day the team’s projected cap hit for the year goes up $497,312 ($925K/186)*100.

Cap space “accrues” over time. A team with $500K cap room to start the year can add a player with a $1,000,000 Cap Hit halfway through season (Day 93). Due to the way the cap is calculated, a player worth $1M annually will only count for $500,000 in actual cap charge through the remainder of the year.

8. Team Cap Hit Calculations & Accrued Cap Space | Puckpedia.

 

[King'sPawn]

No I'm not. What I'm saying is that if Blake/Tmac decides to keep certain players in the lineup over prospects, that has nothing to do with development. That's roster management.

Except Blake, who manages the entire org, and McLellan, who manages the team, has to account for long-term effects and developmental impact as well as day-to-day performances.

It's why they will understandably NOT dress a prospect or put him in over his head even if he's better than a scrub.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Yes, and they do do it constantly. It is a bit confusing, but I've put a pretty solid explanation from Puckapedia below. I mainly just try to remember that cap space is calculated every new day based on the days remaining in a season. If you're trying to add a player later, you want that daily number as small as possible to accrue the extra space. If you're about to the LTIR someone, you want that daily number as close to the cap as possible before doing so in order to "gain" the max amount of relief.

8. Team Cap Hit Calculations & Accrued Cap Space | Puckpedia.

Thanks much.. 'paper transaction' makes much more sense now..

 

[deaderhead28]

it sounds like a paper transaction







but nothing surprises me anymore

 

[AmadiosAmigos]

22 - 11 - 34
12 - 24 - 9
28 - 89 - 13
19 - 46 - 91

Move 33 in the quest for a LHD/G … wouldnt mind seeing 19 and 46 gone this year or atleast next year… 9/13 can interchange based on which one they gel with best.. be great with Fagemo & Byfield even replacing 19/46…

44 - 8
xxx - 3
7 - 50/53

Shoot 2 and 26 to the moon, ASAP. 50 likely gone in a trade for the LHD. Make 57 your 7th