Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[FSL KINGS]

So, Chychrun or Kaliyev on the PP?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So, Chychrun or Kaliyev on the PP?

Yes.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Only if the top line is composed of two kids and Fiala

Fiala-Byfield-Vilardi could be a seriously dangerous first line as soon as next year.

Which means Blake and Todd will make sure it won’t happen.

 

[Sol]

I think whatever the cost is, if the Kings can get a really good LD and not give away Byfield and Clarke then they should pay up the cost. You’re not getting a ready LD in the draft nor through the pipeline. Gonna need one externally regardless. I’m fine with a Kings ransom.

 

[kings11]

Fiala-Byfield-Vilardi could be a seriously dangerous first line as soon as next year.

Which means Blake and Todd will make sure it won’t happen.

I think we might see a little of it this season by accident.. I also don’t think Todd survives the season

 

[kingsfan28]

So, Chychrun or Kaliyev on the PP?

so 2 first rounders , plus a top prospect, plus another b prospect and probably more, for a guy who's the injured defensive version of Gaborik, or...

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Please don't jinx it..... i beg you

Blake has a running, 2 year history of resigning one he should have passed on. AA, after a pretty MEH year, is resigned to a 270% raise???? like 1 million to 2.7 mil? Should have let him walk. Then Edler was a good signing...but was not quite the same after ankle break...although valiant to return. That does not mean you resign him. There could have been better options. So, with Quick and Lemieux being the only UFA...is he signing either? It's time to let Quick retire or go. Lemieux? Depends if he plays well (or at all) the remaining part of year. He's not been the same, since his opeing month last season, where they were something like 7-0 with him.

It's time to let most all the 33+ year old vets go and let the youth play and play in meaningful roles.
Please don't *resign Kopi...or, only based on like ONE YEAR at 3-4 million and he's told he's the 3rd line player.
It's not an insult. It;s life. How many Thornton's, Perry's, Staal's etc, played at 750,000 to 1 million?

*that being Kopi in Summer of 2024. That's 125 games away and hard to say where he'll be at,
in his game, come June 2024. Arviddson? No complaints, but Summer 2024. Do not resign.

 

[Cianide]

Blake f***ed up an entire rebuild. Trade Toffoli and immediately spend as many assets plus more on Arvidsson and Fiala. Keeping legacy players as the core. Not playing any of the 3 top 10 picks in the lineup.
Doubling down on mediocre players like Walker Roy Edler.
Just a completely mishandled rebuild. All because Doughty cried to the media about not wanting to go through it?

I don't see any of those reasons as being big screw ups. His mistake is his philosophy on development of players. He has actually done well with trades and acquiring key players, ie Danault, Moore, Durzi. If Byfield comes in here and tears it up I will be impressed with Blake, especially if we can get Vilardi going.

 

[Schmooley]

I don't see any of those reasons as being big screw ups. His mistake is his philosophy on development of players. He has actually done well with trades and acquiring key players, ie Danault, Moore, Durzi. If Byfield comes in here and tears it up I will be impressed with Blake, especially if we can get Vilardi going.

All of those moves have to do with development because its basically blocking players from playing in the NHL and getting minutes/experience.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Stockpiling every hockey prospect in the local super cluster deserves no praise whatsoever. A handful of us have been saying this for literal years. Any ape can listen to their scouting staff and hold onto picks, especially when you’re playing with house money from ownership.

Blake has never been under any pressure to deliver until now. And he’s falling flat on his face. The team is not improving. The prospects are not taking over. There are logjams at wing and RHD and gaping holes at LHD and goal.

Blake deserves no praise for anything until a team led by his drafted and developed players wins a playoff round. That is the bar.

Maybe he needs another six years to reach it.

 

[aceofpace]

I'm not opposed to trading for Chychrun because he's injury prone but because it will take the farm to get him which will limit our flexibility everywhere else. Also Gavrikov is a UFA in the summer. Why not just try signing him then? Also for goalie why not simply draft the top ranked prospect Michael Hrabal who's 6 foot 6 in the upcoming draft?

 

[johnjm22]

I would say that Chychrun is a much more advantageous contract situation. 2.5 seasons at 4.6 million for a top pair defenseman is fantastic, when Fiala was traded he didn't even have a contract.

For some reason I thought he was only signed through next year. 2.5 years isn't too bad, but still not ideal IMO.

Fiala's contract with the Kings was a forgone conclusion. They traded Faber + 1st for a ppg winger for 7 seven years.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I just don’t think we need a player like Chychrun. Gavrikov is already a perfect fit.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Here’s another option.

 

[KingTech]

Here’s another option.

Kempe. Tobias Bjornfoot Matt Roy and Madden back

 

[FSL KINGS]

Here’s another option.

So add a 2nd & Madden to the Chychrun offer?


Edit: was thinking something like Roy & Kempe for Horvat +. Kopi, Danault, Horvat to Byfield Danault, Horvat.

Also Cal for OEL at 5M might not be terrible. Other D I like first, but freeing up Cal's contract to someone who at least fills a need is something.

 

[Seattle King]

Kings arent looking for an offensive defenseman here. Not Chychrun, not QHughes.
We have two offensive defensemen we cant play in Clarke and Spence.
We need a LHD who can play in the top 4, a guy who can shut things down and bring some truculence and grit.

 

[kilowatt]

So add a 2nd & Madden to the Chychrun offer?


Edit: was thinking something like Roy & Kempe for Horvat +. Kopi, Danault, Horvat to Byfield Danault, Horvat.

Also Cal for OEL at 5M might not be terrible. Other D I like first, but freeing up Cal's contract to someone who at least fills a need is something.

I’d rather extend Cal another three years than take on OEL.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Kings arent looking for an offensive defenseman here. Not Chychrun, not QHughes.
We have two offensive defensemen we cant play in Clarke and Spence.
We need a LHD who can play in the top 4, a guy who can shut things down and bring some truculence and grit.

Doughty isn't doing great on transition & offense right now. Looking forward a season or 2 an offensive D could fit nicely.

Provorov, Doughty
Mikey, Clarke
Björnfot, Spence

Mikey, Doughty
Gavrikov, Clarke
Björnfot, Spence

This might be cheaper both with regards to cap & assets. Adding an offensive D would lead to a more dynamic defense, while actual defending would be better with a shutdown guy. It'll come down to who is available at what price.

 

[psych3man]

We need a LHD who can play in the top 4, a guy who can shut things down and bring some truculence and grit.

Nice lexicon! .. word of the day for sure

 

[funky]

Doughty isn't doing great on transition & offense right now. Looking forward a season or 2 an offensive D could fit nicely.

Provorov, Doughty
Mikey, Clarke
Björnfot, Spence

Mikey, Doughty
Gavrikov, Clarke
Björnfot, Spence

This might be cheaper both with regards to cap & assets. Adding an offensive D would lead to a more dynamic defense, while actual defending would be better with a shutdown guy. It'll come down to who is available at what price.

Partied with two Philly fans last night. They are both willing to give us Provorov for free. They said we should probably watch the Flyers this year before we think about him as he has been horrible and keeps getting worse. They did concede that he would probably make a great #3 with reduced minutes and easier assignments but neither thought he belonged on the 1st pairing with Doughty,

I loved Provorov in Brandon and he looked like he was on the right track early in the NHL but the shine is wearing off quickly. I would hope that he and Doughty would boost each others game but the two Philly fans were skeptical at best.

Not much out there for Left shot talent these days.

 

[kilowatt]

Partied with two Philly fans last night. They are both willing to give us Provorov for free. They said we should probably watch the Flyers this year before we think about him as he has been horrible and keeps getting worse. They did concede that he would probably make a great #3 with reduced minutes and easier assignments but neither thought he belonged on the 1st pairing with Doughty,

I loved Provorov in Brandon and he looked like he was on the right track early in the NHL but the shine is wearing off quickly. I would hope that he and Doughty would boost each others game but the two Philly fans were skeptical at best.

Not much out there for Left shot talent these days.

We don’t need Provorov to be a #1 LD. We need him to be better than Edler and Durzi on his off side.

Anderson - Doughty
Provorov - Spence
Bjornfot - Roy/Durzi

Our offense is (shockingly) so good that we just need league-average defense and goaltending to be a legitimate threat in the playoffs.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

We don’t need Provorov to be a #1 LD. We need him to be better than Edler and Durzi on his off side.

Anderson - Doughty
Provorov - Spence
Bjornfot - Roy/Durzi

Our offense is (shockingly) so good that we just need league-average defense and goaltending to be a legitimate threat in the playoffs.

That’s the mind numbing thing about Todd’s coaching and Blake’s roster construction. We have all the offensive talent in the world but no structure, identity, or balance behind the blueline.

 

[kings11]

Top pairing dman vs PPG winger? I think the Dman is likely harder to find and less-available. I don't think they're out of line at all for asking 3 first-equivalent assets for Chychrun. I just don't think it's necessarily worth the gamble unless you're renovating the D to add one more as @kilowatt said above, and his injury history is absolutely a gamble. I think if you can get them to bite on some conditional picks and/or gamble prospects it's more palatable.

That being said, if the Kings end up rolling something like Doughty-Chychrun, Anderson-Spence, Gavrikov-Clarke (Durzi, Walker) it's almost worth it to move a lot of assets not named Byfield or Clarke. I'd like to think not even Todd could f*** that up.

There aren't spots for everyone that's for sure, I'm high on Turcotte but I think he'd have to be made avaialble as would Fagemo, Thomas, Madden, Chromiak, any and all of those guys are relatively 'B' prospects in a Chychrun trade.

And this is absolutely not the way to do a rebuild, because make no doubt we are still building. That defense is good but still doesn’t solve our goaltending situation.

You’ve also just traded away all our potential future depth to build a team that is maybe good enough to win 2 rounds.. maybe..
The biggest need to is to open spots for Spence, Clarke and Bjornfot.. Trade who you need to make that happen..

Give Byfield another 10-15 games to keep up his play in the A and then call him up. If his production in Ontario keeps pace then that alone is the equivalent of a TDL acquisition.

This is literally what we argued about before last season, how even with the acquisitions of Arvy and PD we need to continue to build. But we got a taste of the playoffs and you guys all act like this team is a contender?
But even worse would trade the future for what? A low tier playoff team?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

And this is absolutely not the way to do a rebuild, because make no doubt we are still building. That defense is good but still doesn’t solve our goaltending situation.

You’ve also just traded away all our potential future depth to build a team that is maybe good enough to win 2 rounds.. maybe..
The biggest need to is to open spots for Spence, Clarke and Bjornfot.. Trade who you need to make that happen..

Give Byfield another 10-15 games to keep up his play in the A and then call him up. If his production in Ontario keeps pace then that alone is the equivalent of a TDL acquisition.

This is literally what we argued about before last season, how even with the acquisitions of Arvy and PD we need to continue to build. But we got a taste of the playoffs and you guys all act like this team is a contender?
But even worse would trade the future for what? A low tier playoff team?

I don't know how much clearer I can make it across the forum that I'm all about playing the kids, not this.

I'm just saying IF you're pursuing these guys, it's going to be pricey.

Imagine thinking I'M saying this team is a contender, sheesh