Rumor: LA Kings and Detroit Red Wings are interested in Elias Pettersson (EP40)

[Bourne Endeavor]

Doubt canucks wanna pay another 4 years.. and what if he gets worse... Poor asset management

Ceci is signed for three more years and Dumoulin two. So they'd be paying for dead weight, regardless. Vancouver is going to be a bottom feeder for at least three of those years if not longer. Why would they care about waiting on Pettersson?

As for assets. Getting two middling picks means nothing.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

I'd be more in the Danielson, Rasmussen (take some money and BC boy), and a small add. I think the Wings need to keep MBN and Bear.

 

[Qwijibo]

I still think ep40 rebounds in a big once this saga is all behind him. But his face value is very low right now I’d think

Revenge tour part two...the disappointening

 

[nergish]

I personally don't want him traded at this stage.

It just doesn't make sense to sell this low, especially since he is a still a very useable player. People act like he's a pariah, but he's still a good NHL player. Just grossly overpaid. Eventually the contract will look less ugly over the next few seasons.

That said, if these are legit rumours - it probably means the Sedins just don't like him that much. There have been reports of some slight friction there. If he's not a good presence for the new look locker room, then I guess I'm onboard with shipping him out.

It will be a sad day when it comes. The guy has been downright nasty in this league, just woefully inconsistent. Pretty much everyone in VAN is expecting him to immediately go back to being that player as soon as he leaves.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I'd be more in the Danielson, Rasmussen (take some money and BC boy), and a small add. I think the Wings need to keep MBN and Bear.

Keeping MBN and Bear is understandable but I think the Canucks would then want high draft picks instead of someone like Danielson

Probably lsomething like

- Conditional 2nd that can turn into a 1st
-Guranteed 2nd
-B level Prospect

 

[RedHawkDown]

Keeping MBN and Bear is understandable but I think the Canucks would then want high draft picks instead of someone like Danielson

Probably lsomething like

- Conditional 2nd that can turn into a 1st
-Guranteed 2nd
-B level Prospect

I would very easily do that trade.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I would very easily do that trade.

We shall see. Yzerman likes his draft picks and prospects too much. Who knows if theyd be even willing to move on EP40. Theyve been previously interested though apparently.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

EP is on 11.6 for 6 more seasons and has gotten 30 goals and 96 pts over the last 2 seasons. You would expect that per season not spread over 2

That's cool, context is kind of important here too, I certainly don't think he is putting up 100 points again, and he is definitely not worth the contract but he is certainly capable of putting up more points than he has in the last two seasons, you know because he was stuck on the worst team in the league. Kind of why just looking at stats (like you clearly have) and not looking at context as a whole is pretty dumb.

I don't think he gets good, or great value, but he isn't a detriment to his team and is still a good two way player capable of 60 points a year. If all they can get for him is two cap dumps and nothing picks then the Canucks keep him, that's a no brainer

 

[Michoulicious]

- EP40 generating alot of buzz around the league
- Canucks are not willing to retain
- Kings and Red Wings have shown strong interest recently and previously


Red Wings would be an interesting trade partner. They can replace Larkin with EP40. They also have assets that the Canucks would be interested.

LA Kings are not flushed with prospects but they do have high draft picks. Canucks also just hired Richard Seeley who was running the King's farm team in the AHL so Seeley will have alot of knowledge in regards to prospects.

Proposal:

To Det
Ep40

To Van
Michael Brandsegg Nygardd
conditional 2nd round pick ( Becomes a 1st if Pettersson scores over 60 points and Detroit makes playoffs)
4th round pick


To LA Kings
Ep40

To Van
2027 1st round pick top 12 protected
2028 Conditional 2nd round pick ( Becomes 1st if Petterson scores over 60 points and LA makes the playoffs)
4th round pick

Detroit and LA are two very desperate franchises if true.
EP sucks, and his contract is horrible.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

Doesn't matter - the article isn't expressly stating any knowledge, just speculation and deduction; and then the trade proposals we're just hypotheticals without any grouding on the current price. Nothing to get excited about other than digging up mid-season speculation and recycling it.

 

[Jumptheshark]

That's cool, context is kind of important here too, I certainly don't think he is putting up 100 points again, and he is definitely not worth the contract but he is certainly capable of putting up more points than he has in the last two seasons, you know because he was stuck on the worst team in the league. Kind of why just looking at stats (like you clearly have) and not looking at context as a whole is pretty dumb.

I don't think he gets good, or great value, but he isn't a detriment to his team and is still a good two way player capable of 60 points a year. If all they can get for him is two cap dumps and nothing picks then the Canucks keep him, that's a no brainer

context is the last 2 seasons. Nuck fans are hoping for him to bounce back, But they are selling low on the guy. He is the 8th highest paid player in the NHL and his last 2 season stick out like a soar thumb

 

[CascadiaPuck]

EP is on 11.6 for 6 more seasons and has gotten 30 goals and 96 pts over the last 2 seasons. You would expect that per season not spread over 2

Not saying that EP is paid appropriately for what he is lately at all but you’re nuts if you think a 96pt player can be had for less than 13M in this new cap world. Pretty confident the cap hit number as a free agent might even be pushing 14M.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Nucks management needs to bite the bullet and retain on Pettersson in order to maximize a return.

You need to spend to the cap floor anyway, just make up the retained amount by having a super-cheap 4th line or something during the rebuilding period.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

context is the last 2 seasons. Nuck fans are hoping for him to bounce back, But they are selling low on the guy. He is the 8th highest paid player in the NHL and his last 2 season stick out like a soar thumb

The point that poster is making (I think) is that selling that low would be dumb and they might as well keep him since they’re tanking anyways. Might as well have an overpaid 60pt, defensively capable centre instead of trading him for scraps. Only reason to trade him on an offer like that is some internal issue unrelated to his production.

And I doubt EP40 would waive for Detroit, FWIW.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The point that poster is making (I think) is that selling that low would be dumb and they might as well keep him since they’re tanking anyways. Might as well have an overpaid 60pt, defensively capable centre instead of trading him for scraps. Only reason to trade him on an offer like that is some internal issue unrelated to his production.

And I doubt EP40 would waive for Detroit, FWIW.

I think you're probably right, but something that helps Detroit is that they have a good reputation with Swedes and they have some good Swedish players that should help EP acclimate to a new team. It's not a huge factor but I don't think it's one you can ignore.

Ironically, had Larkin not demanded a trade I think Detroit would make a ton of sense for EP to allow a trade to. Play as a 2C behind an established 1C with a lot of young talent, other Swedes to play with and a strong history with Swedes? That makes a lot of sense. But Larkin demanding a trade really screws with that outcome. I don't know that EP would want to be traded to a team having its own issues right now.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I think you're probably right, but something that helps Detroit is that they have a good reputation with Swedes and they have some good Swedish players that should help EP acclimate to a new team. It's not a huge factor but I don't think it's one you can ignore.

Ironically, had Larkin not demanded a trade I think Detroit would make a ton of sense for EP to allow a trade to. Play as a 2C behind an established 1C with a lot of young talent, other Swedes to play with and a strong history with Swedes? That makes a lot of sense. But Larkin demanding a trade really screws with that outcome. I don't know that EP would want to be traded to a team having its own issues right now.

Totally fair point. The thing I’d heard is that Petey’s wife is based in LA though. He holds the hammer on the deal and could force a move to California.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Totally fair point. The thing I’d heard is that Petey’s wife is based in LA though. He holds the hammer on the deal and could force a move to California.

He can't really force a move to California is none of the California teams want to trade for him, though. Or in LA's case, their internal budget won't allow them to trade for him.

I'm definitely biased but I still think Pittsburgh is the obvious fit for him.

 

[Diablo2020]

I brought it up on the Canucks board once but waiving a full no move clause to go to Detroit might be the one place that welcomes Ep40 and his contract with open arms, with whats happened there recently.

Anywhere else and he's probably shredded by the new fanbase on day one hehe.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

Pius Suter
Jonathan Drouin
Lukas Fischer
29th Pick

2 rentals to move for more assets at the deadline, a solid LD prospect, and a late 1st.

I think STL would be a good fit with Steen coming in as GM, and other young Swedes like Broberg, Stenberg, Lindstein, and Berggren on the roster. He also has Thomas here to take some pressure off of him as well.

Holloway-Thomas-Snuggerud
Neighbours/Buchnevich-Pettersson-Kyrou/TBD
Stenberg-Dvorsky-Buchnevich/Neighbours

 

[Breakers]

Extremely talented

But I’m not touching a player who doesn’t seem like he enjoys hockey and has ZERO self confidence with that contract

Never seen a collapse seemingly instantly at a trade rumor

 

[JKG33]

I personally don't want him traded at this stage.

It just doesn't make sense to sell this low, especially since he is a still a very useable player. People act like he's a pariah, but he's still a good NHL player. Just grossly overpaid. Eventually the contract will look less ugly over the next few seasons.

That said, if these are legit rumours - it probably means the Sedins just don't like him that much. There have been reports of some slight friction there. If he's not a good presence for the new look locker room, then I guess I'm onboard with shipping him out.

It will be a sad day when it comes. The guy has been downright nasty in this league, just woefully inconsistent. Pretty much everyone in VAN is expecting him to immediately go back to being that player as soon as he leaves.

You dont want to trade him, I dont want the Kings to trade for him. Sounds like we've got an agreement.

It will be a sad day indeed, for whoever the acquiring team is that gives Vancouver any positive value.

Woefully inconsistent is overrating him. That implies he's actually good sometimes. He's been pretty consistently dogshit since getting that overpayment of a contract.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Petterson's shot never fully recovered from his wrist injury. His skating has fallen off due to chronic knee issues. 11.6 AAV, put up 50 some points last season & has a NMC.

King's have some spots they can cut cap & fit the contract. The return isn't going to be great.

 

[nogatco rd]

I still think ep40 rebounds in a big once this saga is all behind him. But his face value is very low right now I’d think

Feels like we have been saying that about various sagas for a few years now

 

[SirloinUB]

Detroit shouldn't go after Pettersson.

They need to take a step or two back rather than shuffle deck chairs.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

The Wings offer a 2nd round pick for Pettersson at full contract. For Michael Brandsegg-Nygård, give me a break