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How many of the votes came from teammates?
bmr
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Helenius...someone that is probably near and dear to your heart, JU. lol...
Nasti
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That number would drop 50% if he just decided to finally shave the pornstache.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
No you were being fair. It was just me being a smug asshole as before the season we asked 'what kind of production from byfield would make you happy this year' and though he's ahead of pace for any of those numbers from people now they're still like 'no not good enough,' the goalposts are screeching like a freedom eagle because he's scoring the wrong kind of goals
Sol
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Never again will I trust any management to do a rebuild with the old core still present. If done correctly I think it can work, but the risk of the old core being the go-to boys is just far too high.
Sol
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I’ve been pretty happy with his production to be fair. It’s a lot better, how much of that has to do with being Kopitar remains to be seen, but one area where I think he will definitely grow is his shot. Again all the scouts mentioned he was only behind Drysdale in his draft in shot. Maybe it was a growth spurt and equipment that made everything super awkward for him, but I think he will improve there a lot. I don’t know where byfield will end up as a player since he’s unusual. I think maybe Jeff Carter just because I think if there was signs of him being near Kopitar tier then we would have seen that by now. Rookie Kopitar was amazing and you need guys like that to win anything meaningful. I will always maintain that Vilardi was the best and most talented player from the draft. Strength, hands, and unbelievable hockey IQ. People acted like Vilardi was nothing even when he played far better than any of the prospects even today.
bmr
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Call me crazy, guys - but I think the Kings are going to win tonight. Just a hunch.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I think his shot itself is good--like Kaliyev. Same issue--sucky release. In juniors you can do a long wide sweeping wrist shot with time to pick a corner. In the NHL, it has to be off your stick. It's a hard adjustment and some dudes never get it.
Zero quarrel here over Vilardi--he just has 'it', if that's what you're saying, I'm agreeing wholeheartedly. Some players just get it immediately, that elite level IQ.
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BigKing
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Well, he only finished 18 PIMs behind leading the team in PIMs last season and Lizotte has missed too much time to reclaim the #1 spot. I think he can do it.
He actually would have been neck-and-neck with Lizotte last year if not for Lizotte's bitch-ass cross-checking major and game misconduct on Morrissey.
I hate this f***ing team.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
The good news for the opponent is that the Kings are equally predictable on offense. Just keep them on the perimeter and they’ll do 3 laps and take a bad shot.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
That would be stupid, maybe one of the state run media could ask Blake a question like this if that were to happen.
“Turcotte is 23 years old and has 4 seasons and over 100 games in the AHL, when will he be given a chance to be an NHL’er?”
Does that question get the card-counter treatment in 60’s Vegas? Does Sean O’Donnell take you behind the building and start snapping fingers?
And it’s win-win for Lizotte, let him go play on some contenders 4th line and try and get a ring. He’s not a bad player by any stretch but the Kings need to get younger and cheaper, and this is an obvious opportunity to. Plus Turcotte has a higher ceiling than Lizotte, he could end up a 3C where Lizotte has no chance.
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johnjm22
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Herby
How could Blake have known?
The Kings could get something for Lizotte from an actual contender. It may only be a 3rd rounder or a reclamation project prospect but the guy did have 35 points just last season, without much if any PP time. And he makes less than $2m.
He is not a negative asset by any stretch.
johnjm22
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He was injured in the playoffs.
He's currently injured after coming back from another injury earlier this year.
I love him, but he's a 4th liner who in addition to being injured has had bad playoffs.
I can't imagine getting a 3rd round pick for him.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
They’d be just about ready to come out of it, and they’d have somebody like Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov as probably the crown jewel (who knows maybe they win the lottery and get Bedard), either way they be picking high in what is looking like a special draft for centers. Plus somebody from the Top 10 in 2022 and multiple other 1sts.
Just hypothetically had they moved on from Doughty and Iafallo (could have had a 1st at the deadline) and eventually Roy and never brought in the outside mercenaries and committed to a true rebuild, maybe something like this.
Byfield - Kopitar - Kempe
Moore - 2023 Top pick - Vilardi
Kaliyev - Turcotte - Fagemo
Grundstrom - Kupari- Thomas
Faber
Anderson
Clarke
Spence
Durzi
Bjornfot
In the system/future picks
1-8 pick in 2022
Whatever the return for Doughty
1st from Iafallo trade (probably 25-32)
1st from Roy trade (probably 25-32)
Likely top 10 pick this year
And they’d have a ton of cap space with Faber, the 2023 guy, Clarke and the 2022 1st still all still on ELC’s for 2024-2025 while having the capability of being huge stars (especially the first 3).
So a mere 3 years after deciding to go full throttle with the rebuild you could have entered 2024-2025 with this collection of youth + tons of 1st round talent in the system to explore making a splash trade or signing. Instead they appeased Drew Doughty, and we have what we have now, and likely 0 playoff series wins to show for all that we passed on. I hope Daneault, Fiala, PLD, Arvy, Gavrikov and those 5 playoff wins were worth it.
All we needed to do was be patient and tell Drew "Thanks for everything you did for this franchise, can you give us a couple of places you'd like to be traded"
Just a monumentally poor decision by the powers that be.
Don't laugh, but I'd venture to say that other than Calgary, LA is probably the most likely place Huberdeau is playing next season/the end of this one. I could see something where Calgary retains $2m and it's an even dollar for dollar swap before PLD's NMC clicks in. This is a classic change of scenery trade of epic proportions. I hate the age difference and the contract into his late 30's, but there might not be another place where the Kings can move PLD without retaining a ton of money and getting almost nothing back. If the plan is still to move Byfield back to C (I disagree with that) it might make sense for a C for W trade. Especially one who was pretty damn good only a couple years ago.
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